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Sat May 26 08:36:46 SAST 2012

Two provinces near economic collapse

CHANDRÉ PRINCE and AMUKELANI CHAUKE | 05 December, 2011 23:50
Finance minister Pravin Gordhan. File photo.
Image by: GCIS

In an historic first, the ANC-led government has admitted that two provinces are on the brink of economic collapse and in dire need of financial bailout.

It emerged yesterday that widescale maladministration and possible criminal intent in Limpopo, Free State and Gauteng has forced the National Treasury to dip into reserves amounting to billions of rands in an effort to prevent a looming crisis.

The economic embarrassment has forced the cabinet to place eight departments in Limpopo and Free State under administration, effectively meaning that the National Treasury will play big brother to their finances.

In a shocking statement, cabinet spokesman Jimmy Manyi revealed how the three provinces - with Limpopo faring the worst - plunged into financial difficulties, forcing the government to urgently review provincial spending and devise elegant solutions to a situation analysts describe as "embarrassing to the country".

A cash-strapped Limpopo alone has asked Treasury for a R1-billion bailout on top of a R757.3-million overdraft to pay for November salaries.

Gauteng needs R627-million to pay for salary increases and faces "chronic problems" with large accrual and other financial disasters. It is not clear how much Free State has requested from the Treasury.

Manyi said the cabinet had been "concerned" about the state of financial management and governance in the three provinces for some time and that the drastic move was necessitated by trends of unsatisfactory spending, overspending and challenges with supply chain management.

"The Minister of Finance Pravin Gordhan was asked by cabinet to urgently review the situation in Limpopo and other provinces and report back to cabinet on proposed actions to be taken to improve the financial situation and its impact on service delivery and provincial functions," said Manyi.

The intervention, as decided by the cabinet yesterday, will entail:

  • Key departments in Limpopo and Free State being placed under administration;
  • The cabinet assuming responsibility for Limpopo's treasury, education, transport and roads, health and public works departments;
  • The cabinet issuing directives for Free State's treasury and police and roads and transport departments;
  • Gauteng signing agreements with ministers of health and finance to address financial challenges in the provincial health department;
  • Gauteng being assisted with financial management and supply chain management issues;
  • Forensic investigations with strict deadlines to be carried out; and
  • A monitoring committee under Gordhan's leadership, assisted by six other national ministers.

And though the ANC might have egg on its face over its failure to adequately deal with its finances in the three provinces it holds majority power over, the cabinet said heads would roll if the investigations uncover any illegal conduct.

MECs, heads of departments, chief financial officers and other appropriate officials will also be replaced by the national acting deployees on a case-by-case basis.

According to Manyi, a cash- strapped Limpopo had used up its R757.3-million overdraft facility with the Corporation for Public Deposits and had asked that its facility be increased by R1-billion to pay salaries and wages on November 23.

"This request was declined but alternative arrangements were made for an early transfer of their equitable share," said Manyi.

Efficient Group chief economist Dawie Roodt said yesterday: "I don't think government realises the kind of damage something like this does to the economy. At the moment, as things stand, we are barely managing ... we are not in trouble as yet, but we are not comfortable," said Roodt.

He attributes the provinces' financial woes to incompetence and the ANC's cadre deployment tendencies.

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BornintheRSA

Posted 172 days ago
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The provincial managers (MEC's and others) must be fired. Not redeployed, fired and where guilty of crime, sent to jail. It's time that the cadres learned that positions of power and privilege come with accountability. This country does not need to go the way of Zimbabwe - we can stop the rot if the political will is there to do so.
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ooooooooo

Posted 172 days ago
But there is no political will. Jacob Zuma can never address the corruption because of his own history. Limpopo Provence has the worst output of any Provence an all deliverables and now they are basically bankrupt. Why is their premier still the premier. He should be fired immediately. He failed in his responsibility to run the Provence effectively. Another thing is that the civil service is way too big for the outputs they provide. No bussiness can survive if the salary bill is bigger than the revenue inflows. Zimbabwe here we come.
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MsLee

Posted 172 days ago
I agree - those responsible must be held to account in terms of the law. And if there's no political will, civil society must step into the breech and lobby for this to be done.
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Fedupguy

Posted 171 days ago
It seems, one does not have to look too far out into the universe, as we have discovered 2-3 huge black holes in our near vicintity:

A team led by astronomers at the University of California, Berkeley, discovered the two gigantic black holes in clusters of elliptical galaxies more than 300 million light years away. That’s relatively close on the galactic scale.

“They are monstrous,” Berkeley astrophysicist Chung-Pei Ma told reporters. “We did not expect to find such massive black holes because they are more massive than indicated by their galaxy properties. They’re kind of extraordinary.”

The previous black hole record-holder is as large as 6 billion suns.

In research released Monday by the journal Nature, the scientists suggest these black holes may be the leftovers of quasars that crammed the early universe. They are similar in mass to young quasars, they said, and have been well hidden until now.

The scientists used ground-based telescopes as well as the Hubble Space Telescope and Texas supercomputers, observing stars near the black holes and measuring the stellar velocities to uncover these vast, invisible regions.

Black holes are objects so dense that nothing, not even light, can escape. Some are formed by the collapse of a super-size star.

It’s uncertain how these two newly discovered whoppers originated, said Nicholas McConnell, a Berkeley graduate student who is the study’s lead author. To be so massive now means they must have grown considerably since their formation, he said.

Most if not all galaxies are believed to have black holes at their center. The bigger the galaxy, it seems, the bigger the black hole.

Quasars are some of the most energized and distant of galactic centers.

The researchers said their findings suggest differences in the way black holes grow, depending on the size of the galaxy.

Ma speculates these two black holes remained hidden for so long because they are living in quiet retirement — much quieter and more boring than their boisterous youth powering quasars billions of years ago.

“For an astronomer, finding these insatiable black holes is like finally encountering people nine feet tall whose great height had only been inferred from fossilized bones. How did they grow so large?” Ma said in a news release. “This rare find will help us understand whether these black holes had very tall parents or ate a lot of spinach.”

Oxford University astrophysicist Michele Cappellari, who wrote an accompanying commentary in the journal, agreed that the two newly discovered black holes “probably represent the missing dormant relics of the giant black holes that powered the brightest quasars in the early universe.” One of the newly detected black holes weighs 9.7 billion times the mass of the sun. The second, slightly farther from Earth, is as big or even bigger.

Even larger black holes may be lurking out there. Ma said that’s the million-dollar question: How big can a black hole grow?

The researchers already are peering into the biggest galaxies for answers.

“If there is any bigger black hole,” Ma said, “we should be able to find them in the next year or two. Personally, I think we are probably reaching the high end now. Maybe another factor of two to go at best.”
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PhutianaMolepo

Posted 171 days ago
i am from Limpopo.this grown-up ministers are putting a very bad image to us poor people of Limpopo.This bad people must be put in jail after paying back the money.finish n klaar!

I984

Posted 172 days ago
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Eish comrades. The house of cards.

Shongweni

Posted 172 days ago
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VIVA! the deployment of inexperienced, unqualified, irresponsible, dishonest but PARTY LOYAL cadre's! VIVA!!!

pan

Posted 172 days ago
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Wow, the richest province in the country is in financialdifficulty? Who would have thought?

Yet the province with the highest infux of poor people as a percentage of population, and the second highest in actual numbers, is just fine. Thanks DA for not embarrassing us like the ANC have.

The GREAT news is that the very people who blindly vote the ANC are suffering the most. I'm loving it. Karma.

pan

Posted 172 days ago
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Concerning the "unforeseen" (i.e. too incompetent to budget properly) salary increase, in a salary assessment last year, it was found that public sector salaries were on average 20%+ higher than private sector salaries, and they got even more???

Gordhan tells us tax payers to tighten our belts, so the PIGS at the trough can get more? Is THAT how it works, hey Gordhan?
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I984

Posted 172 days ago
"A cash-strapped Limpopo alone has asked Treasury for a R1-billion bailout on top of a R757.3-million overdraft to pay for November salaries."

1.757 billion. Finally the way has been found - the unsuspecting taxpayers are directly filling comrades' pockets. It's free for all. The party never ends. Juju's dream has finally come true!!!

brencis

Posted 172 days ago
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Notable that Mal-enema comes from Limpopo with it's corrupt funding of his lifestyle and his friends.

Of course this problem is very easily solved! Vote the ANC out of office, give someone else a chance. Even if you give them just 5 year - test the waters, see what happens. IF they do well we keep them if they fail we return to the devil we know. Other countries are doing it why shouldn't we?!

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danny.archer1

Posted 172 days ago
Because other people don't have a majority populace that are idiots and racists. We do....
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danny.archer1

Posted 172 days ago
* countries
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NeoBlack

Posted 171 days ago
I think this is actaully a serious indictment on opposition parties in South Africa. That, even when the ANC fumbles, they are unable to capitalise on its blunders. It speaks volume that even in their discontent about the ANC people still refuse to consider opposition parties. I do not buy into the lazy explanation that people are simply stupid, I think there must something incredibly WRONG about opposition parties in South Africa.
If you throw a hungry dog a bone, and it stills refuses to grab it, then maybe you need to take another look at the bone, and not just blame the dog for being attitudinal.
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I984

Posted 171 days ago
@ NeoBlack

Everything in this world and life is ALWAYS a two-way street and NEVER simply black-or-white (pun not intended)

Perhaps the opposition parties need to seriously up their game.

Or perhaps we are dealing with a dog which has decided it would rather starve to death - than accept a bone from someone other than his Master?

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NeoBlack

Posted 171 days ago
@1984,
I agree, there is always a grey area.

It could also be that maybe the dog has learnt over the years not to trust strangers. I think the stranger is really interested in the welfare of the dog, and not just interested in spiting its master, he will do a little bit more to earn the trsut of the dog.
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NeoBlack

Posted 171 days ago
... I meant IF the stranger ...
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danny.archer1

Posted 171 days ago
@NeoBlack

"I think this is actaully a serious indictment on opposition parties in South Africa"

I think this is actually a serious indictment on the brain capacity of the majority (and we all know who the majority are).

"If you throw a hungry dog a bone, and it stills refuses to grab it, then maybe you need to take another look at the bone, and not just blame the dog for being attitudinal."

The bone being thrown to the dog is a 600 gram cut of AAA grade prime T-bone. But the dog remains focussed on gnawing away at what it has; a fetid, rotting piece of horse meat, chucked over the fence by thieves to incapacitate the dog. The dog is rabid. It is out of its mind.
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NeoBlack

Posted 171 days ago
@DA,

ahistoricism is a problem of a defective mind. If only you could put your ear on the ground and listen to the voices of the subaltern, you will appreciate their perspective. You will begin to imagine and see life from their point of view. The problem with people like you is that you fail to contextualise and deeply understand the impact of experience on human behaviour. You may think that you have the medicine to cure all the ailments that people are suffering from, but if fail to win people's trust, then you may scream as loud as you wish, your medicine will never be considered. If you are really a self-reflexive person, you begin to ask yourself deeper questions than merely dismissing people as idiotic.
It is all about TRUST, the wreched of the earth do not trust teh so-called alternative voices out there.
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NeoBlack

Posted 171 days ago
On the 'majority' issue, I do not want to assume I undertand what you are talking about. Can you please explicate?

I know the DA for instance is not comfortable with the 'majority'/ 'minority' speak as these tend to be cast in racial terms, and to them race ain't a big issue in SA. 'It is only the ANC that is obsessed with that' , so goes the logic. So please lay bare your thoughts so that we all could follow.
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danny.archer1

Posted 171 days ago
@NeoBlack

"then you may scream as loud as you wish"

I am not screaming. I am laughing at them. I am taking great pleasure in my haughty knowledge that they are suffering because they make decisions based on emotion and not fact. "We told you so," feels pretty good right now.

"It is all about TRUST, the wreched of the earth do not trust teh so-called alternative voices out there."

Exactly my point. The heart overrides the head when you continue to TRUST someone who abuses you, when there are alternatives available. Of course, if you have no head, then you are doomed to follow your heart. Like Beelzebub said, I have less sympathy for them than the cockroach he stepped on.
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NeoBlack

Posted 171 days ago
Like i said, ahistoricism is the game of the foolish.

It is interesting that you cast a clear line between 'facts' and 'emotions' and you can tell if certain ations are derivitive from 'facts'/ reason and others from 'emotions'. I wonder if you ever think of the interplay between the two, if that is beyond your grasp. The truth is facts are always approached and interpreted from particular emotional states/ subjectivity hence when you talk of facts I immediately look into your subjectivity/ value system which shapes and inform the way you interact with your social space and humanity at large. Similarly, emotional states are shaped by real life experiences/ facts and historical memory if you like.
The binary that you put between 'facts' and 'emotions' is unwarranted and is reflective of some fundamental defect in your thought pattern.
Your 'I told you so' laughter is meaningless, as you belong to a different plane of existence vis a vis the people you claim to be laughing at. I do not think they even undertand what you are trying to do, or they even take your theatrical displays seriously.
Lastly, do not forget that the same people you are mocking, do not see you as an alternative. To them you are the former oppressor who is desperate on casting himself anew. You poses do not represent anything they would like to associate themselves with.
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BlackTsunami

Posted 171 days ago
@Neoblack,

I can't agree with you more broer. The likes of Acher make as if ordinary black south africans are judging them unfairly. They conveniently forget their complicity in the oppression and economic subjugation of black people in south africa. Well, if they do, they must remember that there are many of us who still remember. They cannot all of a sudden turn into messiahs and want to preach the salvation of the black man.
I understand the crises at hand re: the three provinces and probably many others. However, this does not make our former oppressors are necessarily angels. If they were, why did we rise up against them? Their time has passed.
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buddi

Posted 171 days ago
@BlackTsunami
None of us have forgotten the past, and many so-called oppressors actually voted against it in a referendum, as you may also remember.
However, while you may not have forgotten the oppressors, I definitely expected more from the liberators. The oppressors looked after their own, while the liberators are only looking after themselves. Note the difference?
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danny.archer1

Posted 171 days ago
@BlackTsunami I was 9 years old when Mandela walked free. Prey tell how a 9 year old can be complicit to government legislation.
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BlackTsunami

Posted 171 days ago
@buddi

There is nothing to be proud of about the referendum of 1992. The standards were too scaled down with the choice being between a mugabe and a george bush. Andries Treneucht CP represented too low standards that no right thinking person would have wanted to associate himself with. Their low base made the NATS look like they were progressives. So if I were you I would not use the 1992 'yes' vote as a yardstick of white's progressive thinking at the time. Also, the fact that CP got a significantly massive vote even in this incredibly lowered standards is an indication of how many whites were still holding onto the past.
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Mnbvcxz0

Posted 171 days ago
Gus, I am not a defender of a race but I think you know that your statement is an over generalisation.

eseyeSAY

Posted 172 days ago
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So what happened to Hlasela Fund hwen the Province is running out of money?

Operation Hlasela is now manifesting itself in the Free State. The Provincial Treasury is at the centre of this initiative, and now has collapsed. What the current chairperson of SALGA touches, it collapses. Wonder what will happen to Mangaung Metro. Soon it will be Public Works, whose mandate to build and renovate infrastructure is being carried by Free State Development Corporation. Where the heck have you seen a body which is meant to support business now building clinics? Only in the Free State through Operation Hlasela!

On-Point in Limpopo and Operation Hlasela, there is not difference at all.

mcritic

Posted 172 days ago
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Malema's mates really cashed in - they talk about nationalization - but loots everything that could be looted. Limpopo is so bad - it could become part of Zimbabwe - to allow the looters to keep looting.

Go to jail - go directly to jail - do not pass go - do not collect R200

buddi

Posted 172 days ago
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"widescale maladministration and possible criminal intent in Limpopo, Free State and Gauteng"

But the huge question remains - who is going to bite the dust for this. Quick answer - no-one!!
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MsLee

Posted 172 days ago
Sad, but true ...

Mnbvcxz0

Posted 172 days ago
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Mangaung(FS) is the worst Metro per recent surveys. The ANC will be hosting it's 100th Anniversary bash in that metro, symbolically connecting the ANC to a place that epitomises the ANC's nation-wide failure to improve to lives of citizens. I am not sure if the decision to celebrate an anniversary in a place that makes a show of the ANC's failure was premeditated or sheer Karma. The WC is the best run Province; the MunIndex (by Empowerdex) is testament to the DA run province's excellent service delivery. The WC's wage spend is only 28% of budget, in stark contrast to Alfred Nzo which has 70% of its budget going to wages. In poorly run districts, the wage spend is always much higher, due over-compensation of mayors, managers, & MECs and having an Army of Workers doing what could effectively done by a handful trained employees. More than half of SA's municipalities were found to be in shambles, failing to provide basic services.

SuiGeneris

Posted 172 days ago
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This was the easiest prediction of the century with incompetence rive everywhere.....

What else can one expect when the best candidates for the job will never ever stand a chance of getting it.

Most of whom, and simply because of their competency, are now very successful business owners in the private sector !

This is only the start of many more stunning acts to come in this government circus !

danny.archer1

Posted 172 days ago
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She's a b!tch. :) How's it going big guy?
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danny.archer1

Posted 172 days ago
Pan, that was for you.
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pan

Posted 171 days ago
Busy, which is good. You?

Bruster

Posted 172 days ago
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Never Mind. SARS says we now have over 6million registered tax payers. They'll just keep paying for ineptitude, incompetence, criminality etc etc etc. That number is ominously close to the number of people in a certain demographic in this country. The ANC loves this. But it can't last long. Cracks like this are forming.
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MsLee

Posted 171 days ago
And just wait until angry metro residents start initiating rates action campaigns at local government level. Thirty civil society organisations in towns across the country are already (legally) withholding the payment of rates for non-delivery of services. If metro residents start doing that, the whole house of cards will come tumbling down ...

Mnbvcxz0

Posted 172 days ago
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The ANC cadres have an ego the size of Carlton Centre, you can see it on her face, arrogance. Her face says it all, 'I am PowerFul and there's nothing you can do about it'. I can imagine her people going, 'Yes your Majesty let's another million computers'.
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Mnbvcxz0

Posted 172 days ago
The ANC cadres have an ego the size of Carlton Centre, you can see it on her face, arrogance. Her face says it all, 'I am PowerFul and there's nothing you can do about it'. I can imagine her people going, 'Yes your Majesty let's BUY another million computers'.

muk1

Posted 172 days ago
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IN a recent lecture given by Prof. Jansen he said that if the provincial education departments were to fold; then the education system will continue to operate and even work better.

Most of the monies go towards salaries into a bloated public sector. I honestly think that we could half the employees and the departments will still function; provided that those that remain know what they are doing and know what customer service is all about. This I know is a bit drastic; but this is the only way out from this mess.

King_Biko

Posted 172 days ago
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This is just another political ploy to discredit the sitting leadership leading to Mangaung next year. We know who is behind this and it is those who are desparate for power and are using the state machinery to persue their narrow political ends! It's a sad day in this country where institutions like treasury are also falling part of this ploy! Then again we are not suprised even it is headed by ambitious people masquarading as a voice of reason to our economy!
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pan

Posted 171 days ago
Glad to see you didn't blame apartheid/colonialism/whites/west this time round.

It's taken 4 years Biko, but it seems that the hamerster is getting back on the wheel.
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BokFan

Posted 171 days ago
Dumelang

An interesting opinion, made more so by being quite widely held among the more reckless and incorrigibly irrational anc supporters.

Why it interests me is that it progresses from the denial of outrageous corruption in the camp of the "political victims' of the so-called plot and ends up calling for the continuation of the corrupt and destructive practices. This all under the banner of advancing the cause of " Economic Freedom".

Adding zest this mortal struggle is the certainty that not one of those engaging in it is either rigorous, informed or honest enough to add any value to the economic debate.

I would like to ask you, Mr King, what do you think is meant by "Economic Freedom" and how do you, and those now shown to be criminally incompetent, intend to bring it about?

Thanks for your consideration.
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I984

Posted 171 days ago
"BokFan
Posted 40 minutes ago

I would like to ask you, Mr King, what do you think is meant by "Economic Freedom" and how do you, and those now shown to be criminally incompetent, intend to bring it about? "

See:

"A cash-strapped Limpopo alone has asked Treasury for a R1-billion bailout on top of a R757.3-million overdraft to pay for November salaries."

That's what. And that's how.
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King_Biko

Posted 171 days ago
'Economic Freedom' means a total overhaul and a transformation of how the wealth of this country is shared! It means doing away with the system that is meant to protect and promote the interests of those who were economically empowered and continue to preserve their ill-gotten gains!
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BokFan

Posted 171 days ago
Thanks for the reply King.

But I am saddened that it only contains platitudes and slogans like "total overhaul" "transformation" and sundry other meaningless phrases. There is no detail that could be called a strategy, a plan or a program.

So what do these words mean? Lets trace your scheme back, from the till point, so to speak.

Is everyone to receive a piece of the pie put into their hands .How will you decide who gets what? How often? Will this be done individually and by whom? Will they q up like pensioners while you do it. Are you going to use the banking system to distribute the cash? The Nationalised banking system......? Managed by....? Staffed by....?

Please help your Highness I am keen to subscribe to the Economic Freedom Model but I have so many questions that must be answered first.

ShonaBotes

Posted 172 days ago
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I think the government should hand over the budgeting of the provinces to the housewives aka home executives and working class. We are known for working miracles with a pittance of a wage and especially known for SPENDING LESS THAN WE GET IN. We also don't spend money on unneccessary cr*p. As far as I'm concerned, feeding people is far more important than sponsoring sport with our hard-earned taxes. Also, why not dip into the Lotto funds to feed the hungry and provide shelter for them?
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pan

Posted 171 days ago
You can't be serious? Surely you know it is better (according to the ANC cronies) to give tens of millions to ANCYL kissing contests, PROFIT MAKING Jazz festivals for ANC connected cronies, and to SAFA, to cover the shortfall created by the SAFA executives giving themselves R30 million PLUS bonuses?

The Poor? Pffft, you can't be serious.

Beelzebub

Posted 172 days ago
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Limpopo the worst off, yet the ANC is extremely strong there and that is where Juju has made his billions.
Love it, the idiots voted and got what they deserved. I have more sympathy for the cockroach I stood on last night.
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danny.archer1

Posted 171 days ago
hehehehehehe :)

dougodurban

Posted 172 days ago
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Why are these Provinces in a state of financial collapse? Corruption, incompetence, nepotism, maladministration, fraud, pigs-in-troughs, you name it, they all seem to apply. That and the fact they got rid of the people who could do the work, keep to budgets, understand timetables, and do the job conscientiously. I shall be back in SA in 351 days, and perhaps things will be better by then? But I am not holding my breath.

NeoBlack

Posted 172 days ago
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This needs to be investigated thoroughly and heads should roll. There is nothing wrong with cadre deployment as long as the people you deploy are competent individuals. It seems like the ANC has failed to strike a balance between cadre deployment and comptency.
The situation in the 3 provinces is extremely embarassing and should not be tolerated at all. My gut feeling tells me that other provinces are in similar situation. The problem is actually bigger than many could imagine.
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buddi

Posted 171 days ago
Of course cadre deployment is wrong. No party, and especially the anc, has enough capable cadres to fill all the posts. The sooner they realise that, the better.
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NeoBlack

Posted 171 days ago
@buddi,

cadre deployment is not in itself, a wrong principle. It is a usual political practice all over the world. the only problem is if you deploy incompetent, unqualified people. It is only natural that any political administration will deploy (esp in strategic position) people it trusts, and more often these people are within its ranks.
The british did it pre and post the Union of SA in 1910. In fact before the rise of Afrikaner nationalism during Hertzog and Malan era. The NATS proactively did it post 1948. The examples are endless across the world. Like I said, the problem is if you religiously adhere to the principle even if it means employing incompetent people.

BobbyBob

Posted 171 days ago
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Cadre deployment is at the root of this problem. Incompetent, ill disciplined people with an open checkbook. The consequence is waste, corruption, poverty and ultimately disintegration and bankruptcy, and that is what we are close to today.
Fixing it from central government by yet more cadres wont fix anything, it will just add another costly layer to be fed.
How to fix it? Vote for those "who can", people!

King_Biko

Posted 171 days ago
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Cabinet should keep its hands off in the day to day running of provinces! The same that they are calling for when they say that the courts should keep their hands off and not interfere with the day to day workings of the executives!
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NeoBlack

Posted 171 days ago
people in the provincial government departments need to be paid their salaries. national government cannot turn a blind eye when there is a loooming crisis in provincial legilatures.
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NeoBlack

Posted 171 days ago
... also people in provinces still deserve to be provided with services. this cannot happen when the finances are not in order

wellie07

Posted 171 days ago
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Zuma is a failure. It is the first time that the economic capital Gauteng should be seeking bailouts. It's crazy. These guys should be ashamed of themselves, this is corruption exposed. Come Mangaung, Zuma will be out!!!
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buddi

Posted 171 days ago
To give way to whom? Another incompetent. Change at the top is not going to change the overall corruption of the anc.

Saha

Posted 171 days ago
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"The cabinet assuming responsibility for Limpopo's treasury, education, transport and roads, health and public works departments"

Now I know why the road at my village in Limpopo has stayed incomplete for the past 36 months! Shame on those officials who are as inept as the former homelands crowd they replaced. We thought they will be a fresh breath of air, but we were evidently wrong. Now that local taxis have stopped to run on the unfinished stretch of the road, I have to crawl to work across deep dongas and large boulders in my battered rattletrap while they glide on smooth roads to the nearby municipality offices in their 4X4s. Maybe I and my fellow villagers are not comrades enough. To what else would we attribute this unforgivable neglect?
That's a big, big, big egg in the face, dear rulers - our former heroes.
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danny.archer1

Posted 171 days ago
"To what else would we attribute this unforgivable neglect?"

How about your vote for the ANC at the polling booth?

MsLee

Posted 171 days ago
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Next announcement: City of Joburg near economic collapse ...

Yet another reason why we need an entirely new system of government in SA.

MabhebezaEC

Posted 171 days ago
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And they say Easter Cape is the worst.....hahaha......look at us now!!!
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danny.archer1

Posted 171 days ago
As FedupGuy put it...the Eastern Cape is still a black hole....

BokFan

Posted 171 days ago
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NeoBlack
Posted 20 minutes ago
"I think this is actaully a serious indictment on opposition parties in South Africa."

My friend you have taken the practice of victimhood to the lowest level yet recorded.

You blame the opposition parties for not improving their offering while failing utterly to address your own lack of moral purpose.

You can blame as much as you like. Point a finger as much as you like. Deny as much as you like. The facts are. You and people like you will always support the anc because you are hardwired to vote like a robot. Furthermore you are irrelevant to the future of this country since you are heading for extinction by your own hand.

Go for it boss
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NeoBlack

Posted 171 days ago
@BokFan,

Tell me you are not serious.
I think you one of those guys of old whom when a lady rejects, you go about telling the whole world how ugly she is. Wake up man, and face your own inadequacies.
Opposition parties like your DA must wake up and present a convincing alternative to south africans and stop blaming other people for your own rejection. I would be embarassed if I were you/ DA - the so-called official opposition and yet I fail to make significant inroads when my nemesis is down. The ANC is in its troubled state still has a 'free walk' over you. Instead of doing introspection you go around telling the whole world that black people vote ANC because they are stupid. Dah!
Like I said before, the problem with you and your people is ahistoricism. You have no sense of context whatsoever, you are just floating around hoping that a miracles will happen - to ensure you become the next government.

I not sure if you are sober at all - your 'extinction' point needs more elucidation i do not see its basis? what are you one here, numbers? ideas? or is just one of those things we say in our moment of intellectual lapse?
Believe it or not a vote for the ANC is a conscious, pre-meditated vote. There is nothing robottic about it. I wonder if your prejudiced mind will allow you to say the same about those that vote for parties such as FF plus? Even DA - what makes you not to think that those who vote for the party have no 'resevoir of values' that pre-dispose them to vote like that?

JacquesOlivier

Posted 171 days ago
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I recently found a website called Mobilitate (mobilitate.co.za) - They are all about transparency, please go and sign up (it is free) and go and have your say! We all need to stand together!

BokFan

Posted 171 days ago
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The DA is busy with a long term program to develop competent honest and purposeful leaders.

Giving the generally poor quality of human capital in SA this is a long and costly process. The DA is not going to try and capitalise on the anc imploding. By doing so it will simply inflate itself with questionable new recruits who will follow the old traditional ways at the first opportunity. The anc WILL collapse naturally when the critical mass of failure has been reached. So while the anc thieves,drunks sex addicts and thugs are feasting themselves to death the DA is building a core leadership schooled in the principles of good governance, service and competence.

Its a testament to their program that very few DA officials have made themselves guilty of anc-like behaviour.

While they maintain this project they will have my support.
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danny.archer1

Posted 171 days ago
I concur with your assessment.
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buddi

Posted 171 days ago
Imagine the unemployment if the DA took over - I am sure one competent person could do the jobs of ten current cadres.

Rightway

Posted 171 days ago
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No on will get fired. Hello! This is ANC ,run into the ground, South Africa. Incompetents and crooks are cared for, not booted out on their ear. You get the government you deserve and we deserve the ANC failures. We are not talking about rocket science. A ten year old can do better than the ANC.

DA please take over and deliver us from evil ANC .

HlabirwaBauba

Posted 171 days ago
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Where has our money in Limpopo gone to?
--- Mauritiaus wedding - 500 guests, all expenses paid, fancy suits, chartered flights, etc
--- ANCYL Congress in Midrand -Juju paid for his re-election - with what money??
--- MGM Motors - Range Rover dealership in Polokwane. This town has the higest number of the supercharged cars.
The list is endless. Unless the provincial government is in the right hands, no amount of overdraft can meet the needs of the people.

muk1

Posted 171 days ago
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Hey Cadre, change the names of towns does not mean you are doing work.

Mnbvcxz0

Posted 171 days ago
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The solution to our problems is simple. Vote DA in 2014 and give them a chance and see if our country can't a step out of this embarassment? But I believe that if ANC lost 2014 to DA, civil wars will ignite. But I don't care because the pen is mightier than all the AK-47s they could buy with the loot they are amassing right now.
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Mnbvcxz0

Posted 171 days ago
....because the pen.is mightier than all the AK-47s...

donorfatigued

Posted 171 days ago
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How remarkable that the government appears to be pointing fingers at provincial administrations, when the government themselves is entirely to blame for this shocking fiasco!

It is the ANC government which appointed 'cadres' (there's a good commie word for you!) without bothering to ascertain whether they could count, it is the ANC which failed to bother itself with proper oversight and accountability, it is the ANC which turned, and continues to turn, a blind eye to reports of massive corruption and pillaging of public resources!

The ANC when faced with such a massive collapse of their administration, must resign immediately and call a general election.
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Mnbvcxz0

Posted 171 days ago
I agree, everyone is pointing a finger at someone! Like children who have not a clue of the concept of RESPONSIBILITY. ANC has reached its use by date. The ANC was manufactured in 1912 to serve the interests of a few elite chiefs and educationists, became a political party in the 40s, became a liberation movement in the 60s, was banned in the 60s, unfortunately the International Community mistaken the ANC for a mass liberation movement against Apartheid, the ANC gladly accepted this fortunate windfall, Apartheid collapsed on its own due to international pressures and maladministration, the ANC was given the credit, another nice windfall, they won '94 elections, today history is coming home to roost. A party that only has 900 000 members of the posible +20 million voting adults, it's a situation of brain washing.

samsam

Posted 171 days ago
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Mnbvcxz0
Posted 16 minutes ago


absolutely nonsense, brainwashed, ill informed, the ANC is an extension of what our great Kings fought against, which was colonialism, Im referring to King Cetshwayo, Dingaan, Hinsa, Bhambatha, etc it is when all the Chiefs /tribes etc came together in mangaung to take the struggle forward thats what Chief Albert Luthili stood for, nt this kind of nonsense was fed on your face
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ooooooooo

Posted 170 days ago
Stop drinking cheap spirits. Mabe the you may make sence to an ape. Twit

ScarfaceReturns

Posted 171 days ago
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Cassel Mathale - Limpopo
Nomvula Mkonyane - Gauteng
Ace Magashule - Freestate

All three must go now together with their MEC' s
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BokFan

Posted 171 days ago
Heita Bra Skaap

Why dont you just vote the scum out of government then you wont be required to fire them halfway through their contracts.

Jirre maar julle is dom.

PhutianaMolepo

Posted 171 days ago
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u got this one wright ScarfaceReturns.

BarryPotgieter

Posted 171 days ago
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"Two provinces near economic collapse" I BEG TO DIFFER,THE WHOLE COUNTRY AND GOVERNMENT IS IN A ECONOMIC COLLAPSE,Thanks to the ANC MAFIA.!!!!!

lamelooser

Posted 171 days ago
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Looking @ the BIG picture.....R3,5 + Trillion has dissapeared from the economy since 1994.

Alexio

Posted 171 days ago
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When you have free and fair elections, you get a government you deserve, unlike in Zimbabwe where peasants are frog-marched to vote for ZANU-PF and gun point.

So people must work up and use their votes to replace incompetency. Toy-toying is for the past, we are now a democracy.

shelatt

Posted 171 days ago
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So that's where Juju got his money......I hope they strip this saga in Limpopo down to the very last cent and find the routes the cash took out from the treasury.
To all you ANCorruption supporters, don't forget to place your cross next to the ANCorrupt party in the next elections....they do such a good job of ruining your country!!! After that take a picture of your ballot paper and email it to JZ & Co in the hope that they will reward you with a position where you too can loot the coffers.

samsam

Posted 171 days ago
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Mnbvcxz0
Posted 5 minutes ago


"transforamtion"Reform" now I have to teach english hey

these two terms are the same it depands when you use them all they are referring to programme of change, fortunately enough the govt has adopted Land Reform programme, in this scenario it is an informal conversation we are nt writting a thesis/ dissertation


its similar situation when we refer to a company that is whites dominated we call it "not transformed" instead of saying no employment equity
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Mnbvcxz0

Posted 171 days ago
You should teach were neccessary, it's part of Nation Building. Ok let's not get carried away with the Queen's language. The issue here is that the ANC has not come to the party when it comes to true transformation, therefore we need a reform in order to redistribute equitably the nation's resources, whether they be the land, on the land, the minerals under the ground. Citizens who would march kilometres to gain economic freedom, the same citizens don't know the laws of demand and supply and what fiscal and monetary policies are. The very same citizens who have never read the GEAR policy. Economics is a very abstract discipline and to be economically free, our people should study economics at School by a Force.
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ooooooooo

Posted 170 days ago
samsam has solid bone between his ears. He has no comprehension skills or a chance of ever developing any. Twit