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Sat May 26 09:22:43 SAST 2012

Madonsela is overpaid: ANC

Sapa | 08 February, 2012 17:0620 Comments

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African National Congress MPs on Wednesday suggested the public protector's salary may be reviewed and capped as Thuli Madonsela earned more than most judges.

The chairman of Parliament's portfolio committee on justice, Luwellyn Landers, made it plain that Madonsela's salary could not be reduced while she was in the post, but said MPs may amend the law to limit the remuneration of her eventual successor.

Madonsela appeared before the committee to plead the case for giving her deputy an increase, but soon found herself grilled over her own pay --now at R1.789 million -- in a tense three-hour meeting.

The protector earns the same salary as provincial premiers and judges at the Supreme Court of Appeal and Constitutional Court.

ANC MP John Jeffery asked why this was the case and claimed that, if one included an annual gratuity of more than R1 million, she earned more than the chief justice.

"Can we just look at the public protector's salary?" he asked.

"Where does your contention come from that the public protector's package is linked to that of an appeal court judge? And what is this gratuity and where does it come from?"

"The intention of Parliament when it passed the legislation was [remuneration] 'on a par with a high court judge' and not any other judge."

Madonsela protested: "I think, Honourable Jeffery, you have ambushed me because I did not know my own package was going to be under discussion and I have not reflected on that."

She corrected his reading of the Public Protector's Act, saying it stipulated that the office's salary should be "no less" than that of a high court judge.

It was last reviewed during the term of her predecessor Lawrence Mushwana and was at that point pegged against the pay of an appeal court judge.

The gratuity is paid out in lieu of a pension at the end of the protector's seven-year term, Madonsela explained, and firmly denied getting paid more than the chief justice.

"I don't believe that I am paid a cent more than a judge of the SCA or the Constitutional Court."

Madonsela and Jeffery clashed on several further points.

He rejected her understanding that the committee agreed last year to adjust the deputy public protector's salary, saying it may have made sympathetic noises at most.

When Madonsela requested the minutes of the meeting where the matter was discussed, she was told there were none.

Jeffery said her work was different to that of a judge and suggested that perhaps she ought to be benchmarked, instead, against the less well-paid heads of other chapter nine institutions.

"You do write reports, but it is not the same as a court judgment and you don't sit and hear cases. So that is the problem with benchmarking."

The chairman of the Human Rights Commission earned little more half of what she did, he said.

"I do think a review is necessary, because these disparities are quite great."

Landers then told MPs: "I would like you to think whether the act may need to be amended. The question is should there be a ceiling or a cap?

"I was a member of this committee when we drafted this legislation and approved it. My sense is that we now have unintended consequences.

"I am saying this to you in your presence, please don't take it personally advocate Madonsela, we now have a situation where you earn the same as a judge of the SCA and some members of the committee are saying: 'Is that correct? Was that the intention of the legislature?' I believe not."

He said the committee would review the deputy public protector's pay, but it seems unlikely it will heed Madonsela's request to backdate an increase to 2005 when Mamiki Shai was appointed.

Lawmakers queried Madonsela's argument that it was wrong that her deputy earned a third less than she did.

They also questioned Mushwana's unilateral decision to move the deputy up one level on the salary scale, nearly doubling her pay, without seeking Parliament's approval.

"The Auditor General said nothing about it so we must assume it is fine, but it has left some of us very uncomfortable," Landers said.

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danny.archer1

Posted 107 days ago
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R1.789 million is not nearly enough considering the mountain of ANC excrement she has to wade through everyday. I say double it....not least because it pisses ANC MPs off so much.
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BokFan

Posted 107 days ago
For a sewage inspector thats pretty good tom. But I'd rather chip in fifty per month to have her doing it than see her move on to "greener pastures". Geddit?

Anyone got her account number.

bugsy

Posted 107 days ago
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What is the ANC going to try next to discredit Ms. Madonsela? I say she is actually worth more than what she is reportedly earning. We need more Madonselas!

m1si2zi3nzo4

Posted 107 days ago
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What for? What value has she added to society's life? All she did was to take ask Zuma to 'do the right thing' with the information that the media dragged out into the open. Worse still, she let Malema off the hook, when it was so clear that his trust was used to siphon funds from the taxpayer. Only now is she acting on information that is three years old, and because the boy has fallen from grace, and is pursued by her political masters.

All that was needed was the law to take its course on the information already in the public. The fact that the state is dysfunctional does not award her accolades for doing nothing!

Mike123

Posted 107 days ago
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One of the very very few who actually does a good job. Hmmmm... I guess you are making the rest of the useless morons look like useless morons.

l984

Posted 107 days ago
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The Empire Strikes Back ?

Loggenberg

Posted 107 days ago
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She must re negotiate her contract with the government. I guess a 0.01% Commission Only Salary might work in her favour.
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danny.archer1

Posted 107 days ago
LOL!

l984

Posted 107 days ago
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Seems like public interest is not Luwellyn Landers' first priority - neither as a clause in the info bill, nor as far as the importance of Public Protector's institution is concerned.

Loggenberg

Posted 107 days ago
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I984
Seems like public interest is not Luwellyn Landers' first priority
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Public interest was never his interest.. He sat on PW Botha's government.
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l984

Posted 107 days ago

Howzit Loggies.

buddi

Posted 107 days ago
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I hope this lady is strong enough to stand up to these anc idiots. She deserves every penny! If the useless premiers earn anything close to this their salaries should be cut! They are starting to fight dirty.

Horus

Posted 107 days ago
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She does not look that much physically tough to be protecting each citizen of this country. If I were walking down a dark alley and I suddenly heard some strange noises; she would be the last person to cross my mind. On a serious note; John is burning in some jealousy or envy. She saved the country close to half a billion of rands, which was destined to be lined into some unscrupulous BEE consortium. That is a good financial return on investment, and not mentioning the unquantifiable public confidence in the government that she is restoring. John is short sighted and probably needs some political education.
Her office’s effectiveness only highlights the rot in our government and the incompetence of our prosecuting authorities, the auditor general and the horde of CFOs. These agencies collectively siphon massive resources each year from the revenue base but thieves seem to continue in their acts undetected and unchallenged. One of our provinces is on the edge of total financial collapse despite all these agencies being present. I guess it’s true that if you want to survive among fools you have to act foolishly; Madonsela must start acting dumb, then she will be a darling of the ANC.
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bua

Posted 106 days ago
Madonsela must start acting dumb, then she will be a darling of the ANC.

Had she been dumb by now Parliament would not be "wasting" their "precious" time discussing about her. Look at JUJU, for example. Have you had government complaining about him? How much, in tenders, has Limpopo government departments and municipalities spent to finance his lavish life style, in clear view and awareness of the powers that be? Is Mr Mathale - Limpopo Premier - recalled for the wasteful expenditure in Limpopo, which happened right under his very nose?

m1si2zi3nzo4

Posted 107 days ago
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We've got a serious reasoning problem here. Because colonialism was bad apartheid became acceptable. Because many people became agitated by apartheid, the ANC became the best thing. When Mbeki looked bad, Zuma was the best bet. Because Mushwana was horrible, Madonsela is the sunshine. And so on, and on, goes this false reasoning. One can be excused for thinking that every individual views complex issues in terms of the little corners each finds himself in. And society sinks deeper and deeper in the morass.

An obudsman has never succeeded in doing anything, simply because his job is to "protect" the nobody's against his bosses, an impossible task. It never works because it is against a human being's natural instinct.

Razzo

Posted 107 days ago
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The day Ms Madonsela earns my full respect and for me to go as far as saying she is an awesome public protector or she deserves every penny with regards to her salary, is the day she goes after the big corporations and their thieving founders who stole our trillions when the National Party led government was at its end. She has done a good job at finding corruption and rooting it out but I think with all her energy, and resources, she must start with the "apartheid thieves and corrupt imbiciles" and collect our trillions. This money will go a loooooooooong way into improving our lives as a collective. I dont buy her assertions that her dept doesnt have the loot to go after these thieves.
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buddi

Posted 106 days ago
You do realise that an official complaint with some evidence has to be given to the public protector's office?

destroyer

Posted 106 days ago
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She's not overpaid!!!!!!

I would pay double for an honest ANC government official.

you wont be shelling out too much money either!!!!! :)


RealAfricanDemocrat

Posted 106 days ago
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This is what you get when you have a recycled National Party politician now a meber of the ANC trying very hard to please his superiors. He probably thinks thisbootlicking behaviour will earn him a top position in government ahead of all other comrades and senior ANC politicians. I think he should retire and stop making such a sad spectacle of himself.

bua

Posted 106 days ago
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Anyone and anything that is ruffling feathers must make surely make law-breakers very uncomfortable. Take the now disbanded SCORPIONS for example, it was quickly disbanded to stop the sting from touching those with political powers. Willie Hofmeyr was removed so quickly and replaced with an old judge who only sat in the position for just a few weeks. The list is endless.

Honorable Madonsela is being intimidated to divert her attention from that of protecting the nation as her devote and quality work stings the corrupt and politically powerful. Note, why is it that she was not informed that her own salary will be discussed? The purpose was to make her look bad by not being able to provide quality answers on the spot. N.B, even a criminal is rightly given an opportunity to prepare before answering any question before the courts. I smell a rat here. Something is really fishy!!! May GOD grant you (Madonsela) the wisdom you need.