Madonsela is overpaid: ANC
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African National Congress MPs on Wednesday suggested the public protector's salary may be reviewed and capped as Thuli Madonsela earned more than most judges.
The chairman of Parliament's portfolio committee on justice, Luwellyn Landers, made it plain that Madonsela's salary could not be reduced while she was in the post, but said MPs may amend the law to limit the remuneration of her eventual successor.
Madonsela appeared before the committee to plead the case for giving her deputy an increase, but soon found herself grilled over her own pay --now at R1.789 million -- in a tense three-hour meeting.
The protector earns the same salary as provincial premiers and judges at the Supreme Court of Appeal and Constitutional Court.
ANC MP John Jeffery asked why this was the case and claimed that, if one included an annual gratuity of more than R1 million, she earned more than the chief justice.
"Can we just look at the public protector's salary?" he asked.
"Where does your contention come from that the public protector's package is linked to that of an appeal court judge? And what is this gratuity and where does it come from?"
"The intention of Parliament when it passed the legislation was [remuneration] 'on a par with a high court judge' and not any other judge."
Madonsela protested: "I think, Honourable Jeffery, you have ambushed me because I did not know my own package was going to be under discussion and I have not reflected on that."
She corrected his reading of the Public Protector's Act, saying it stipulated that the office's salary should be "no less" than that of a high court judge.
It was last reviewed during the term of her predecessor Lawrence Mushwana and was at that point pegged against the pay of an appeal court judge.
The gratuity is paid out in lieu of a pension at the end of the protector's seven-year term, Madonsela explained, and firmly denied getting paid more than the chief justice.
"I don't believe that I am paid a cent more than a judge of the SCA or the Constitutional Court."
Madonsela and Jeffery clashed on several further points.
He rejected her understanding that the committee agreed last year to adjust the deputy public protector's salary, saying it may have made sympathetic noises at most.
When Madonsela requested the minutes of the meeting where the matter was discussed, she was told there were none.
Jeffery said her work was different to that of a judge and suggested that perhaps she ought to be benchmarked, instead, against the less well-paid heads of other chapter nine institutions.
"You do write reports, but it is not the same as a court judgment and you don't sit and hear cases. So that is the problem with benchmarking."
The chairman of the Human Rights Commission earned little more half of what she did, he said.
"I do think a review is necessary, because these disparities are quite great."
Landers then told MPs: "I would like you to think whether the act may need to be amended. The question is should there be a ceiling or a cap?
"I was a member of this committee when we drafted this legislation and approved it. My sense is that we now have unintended consequences.
"I am saying this to you in your presence, please don't take it personally advocate Madonsela, we now have a situation where you earn the same as a judge of the SCA and some members of the committee are saying: 'Is that correct? Was that the intention of the legislature?' I believe not."
He said the committee would review the deputy public protector's pay, but it seems unlikely it will heed Madonsela's request to backdate an increase to 2005 when Mamiki Shai was appointed.
Lawmakers queried Madonsela's argument that it was wrong that her deputy earned a third less than she did.
They also questioned Mushwana's unilateral decision to move the deputy up one level on the salary scale, nearly doubling her pay, without seeking Parliament's approval.
"The Auditor General said nothing about it so we must assume it is fine, but it has left some of us very uncomfortable," Landers said.

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danny.archer1
Posted 107 days agoBokFan
Anyone got her account number.
bugsy
Posted 107 days agom1si2zi3nzo4
Posted 107 days agoAll that was needed was the law to take its course on the information already in the public. The fact that the state is dysfunctional does not award her accolades for doing nothing!
Mike123
Posted 107 days agol984
Posted 107 days agoThe Empire Strikes Back ?
Loggenberg
Posted 107 days agodanny.archer1
l984
Posted 107 days agoSeems like public interest is not Luwellyn Landers' first priority - neither as a clause in the info bill, nor as far as the importance of Public Protector's institution is concerned.
Loggenberg
Posted 107 days agoSeems like public interest is not Luwellyn Landers' first priority
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Public interest was never his interest.. He sat on PW Botha's government.
l984
Howzit Loggies.
buddi
Posted 107 days agoHorus
Posted 107 days agoHer office’s effectiveness only highlights the rot in our government and the incompetence of our prosecuting authorities, the auditor general and the horde of CFOs. These agencies collectively siphon massive resources each year from the revenue base but thieves seem to continue in their acts undetected and unchallenged. One of our provinces is on the edge of total financial collapse despite all these agencies being present. I guess it’s true that if you want to survive among fools you have to act foolishly; Madonsela must start acting dumb, then she will be a darling of the ANC.
bua
Had she been dumb by now Parliament would not be "wasting" their "precious" time discussing about her. Look at JUJU, for example. Have you had government complaining about him? How much, in tenders, has Limpopo government departments and municipalities spent to finance his lavish life style, in clear view and awareness of the powers that be? Is Mr Mathale - Limpopo Premier - recalled for the wasteful expenditure in Limpopo, which happened right under his very nose?
m1si2zi3nzo4
Posted 107 days agoAn obudsman has never succeeded in doing anything, simply because his job is to "protect" the nobody's against his bosses, an impossible task. It never works because it is against a human being's natural instinct.
Razzo
Posted 107 days agobuddi
destroyer
Posted 106 days agoI would pay double for an honest ANC government official.
you wont be shelling out too much money either!!!!! :)
RealAfricanDemocrat
Posted 106 days agobua
Posted 106 days agoHonorable Madonsela is being intimidated to divert her attention from that of protecting the nation as her devote and quality work stings the corrupt and politically powerful. Note, why is it that she was not informed that her own salary will be discussed? The purpose was to make her look bad by not being able to provide quality answers on the spot. N.B, even a criminal is rightly given an opportunity to prepare before answering any question before the courts. I smell a rat here. Something is really fishy!!! May GOD grant you (Madonsela) the wisdom you need.