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Thu Jun 20 13:33:27 SAST 2013

Madonsela attacks secrecy bill

THABO MOKONE | 29 March, 2012 00:27
Public Protector Thuli Madonsela. File picture.
Image by: Patrick Hlungwani © Sowetan

Public Protector Thuli Madonsela yesterday told parliament that the Protection of State Information B ill would derail the work of her office and undermine other laws.

In a hard-hitting presentation to the National Council of Provinces' ad hoc committee considering the bill, Madonsela said the proposed legislation would, if enacted in its current form, have the "unintended consequence" of delaying the delivery of justice because her office would be forced to prolong its investigations to comply with the "onerous requirements" of the bill.

She said the bill could also stifle the free flow of information and undermine the Promotion of Access to Information and the Public Protector acts.

She said another area of concern was a clause that required people in possession of classified state information, including documents leaked to Chapter Nine institutions, to report the fact to the police or face criminal charges.

Madonsela said this would strip her of her power to possess state secrets while carrying out her mandate.

"Will we be affected? Yes, severely . We will not be able to function optimally.

"Why does this democracy trust a police station above Chapter Nine institutions?" Madonsela asked.

"The issue is [that] I have been given space by the constitution that I should operate without needing to be affirmed by a policeman. Why should this law now require me to collect information that I find and take it to a police station? That would derail our operations.

"We will not be able to get immediate justice . We are not going to be able to conclude investigations on time because we would have to get through all of these hurdles to get some aspects of information," Madonsela said.

She said she hoped parliament would craft a law to deal with state officials who refused to disclose information to her office under the guise that it had been classified.

The bill was approved by the National Assembly in November amid a huge controversy. Almost all the opposition parties were against its passage.

All eyes are now on the National Council of Provinces to see if it will be sympathetic to calls for the inclusion in the act of a public interest defence.

Madonsela said she was fully behind the inclusion of a public interest defence.

She dismissed concerns that such a clause would allow the media and others to advance their narrow political agendas under the guise of public interest.

Madonsela said there was no evidence to substantiate that claim because until now there had not been an abuse of the Protected Disclosures' Act, which had been in force for more than 10 years.

When asked by COPE MP Dennis Bloem if the act would pass constitutional muster, Madonsela said: "As parliament, you have the power to prevent this matter being settled by a court of law. So let's listen to each other."

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Timbuck9

Posted 448 days ago
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This Bill has been given the go-ahead LONG before it was made public!

WHat ever anyone that opposes it, says... will fall on DEAF EARS!!!

And they (the ANC) wonder why the country is being DOWNGRADED monthly.....

Cannot see the Wood for the Tree's.....
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disillusionedstill

Posted 448 days ago
Correct.

Helen Zille is probably a, if not the main, culprit.

This, and every other medium, has been unable to publish an agreement made by Mrs Zille on pain of going to prison.

Yes, Mrs Zille has made it a crime to expose her trivial conduct.

Mrs Zille made her agreement, when mayor of Cape Town, between Investec and that city to steamroll its white elephant stadium, S E C R E T.

This is an unprincipled example which gets thrown into opponents of this proposed (unnecessary and ill-fettered) legislation face.

Hard to believe, but every journalist involved will tell you that it is the truth.

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Remote

Posted 448 days ago
O do shut up dissillusioned.

Do you not realise that all the readers here see your inane ramblings and racist drivel for what it is. Utter nonsense.


Pathetic...
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LouLou

Posted 448 days ago
Disillusioned - the inanity of your comment forces me to ask the question "if the deal was so secret and supposed to have been kept so secret, how come you know about this and how come you are spouting about it on a public forum?"

Anyone with half a brain cell can see this bill clrearly for what it is - an attempt by the government and parliamentarians to put legislation in place that will allow them to continue robbing the coffers and the SA citizens bline without them being exposed in the media.

SecretVoice

Posted 448 days ago
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We need people in management like this women. I am very impressed with her professionalism and standard of work. We need many more of her caliber in government.
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Ozgood

Posted 448 days ago
She is one of the last bulwarks we have against a new dictatorship

She is a woman of unimpeachable integrity and courage. She is our last hope before the lights of democracy are extinguished in our country and we head into a dictatorship of the elite untouchables just like some former dictatorships in Latin America.


Mike123

Posted 448 days ago
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Thuli, I think you are great! One of very few who does a good job, and who isn't afraid to stand up for what is right. Unfortunately I think that, very soon, the ANC will look for a reason to get rid of you, as they don't like people who counter their criminal ways.

dopla1967

Posted 448 days ago
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She was appointed by President Zuma like it or not.

Potenza

Posted 448 days ago
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Funny how people "cease" to be ANC members when they demonstrate any form of moral superiority to the average South African. Funny how we're hell-bent at attributing all that is wrong in South Africa to the ANC as it's primary cause, whereas I could demonstrate that in most instances, it is the ruling party's slow response, lack of guts and perhaps capital apology(ism) that has led to nothing being done about most problems... Food for thought!!!!

RogueTrooperv2

Posted 448 days ago
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Good on her...I am not entirely opposed to the 'secrecy bill' as I do believe that the media could, at times, be muzzled BUT it MUST include the 'public interest clause. The ANC refuse to include this purely because they haven't finished stripping this country for their own personal greed and don't want to be exposed doing it. Funny thing is we can all see that and know why the ANC won't include the clause...so they have to know that the theft/corruption they see as their right is wrong. Eish...the ANC are more dangerous than the media...by a long way!