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Advocate questions Zuma's choice of white counsel

Oct 20, 2009 6:03 PM | By Sapa

An aspirant judge ruffled feathers during her interview with the Judicial Service Commission (JSC) when she said transformation of the judiciary would only be complete when "the Zumas of this world" briefed black counsel.


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Jacob Zuma chats to Thint lawyers Pierre Mayonot, left, and Michael Hulley during their appearance in the Pietermaritzburg high court. .
Jacob Zuma chats to Thint lawyers Pierre Mayonot, left, and Michael Hulley during their appearance in the Pietermaritzburg high court. .
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Advocate Sita Kolbe SC, an advocate at the Johannesburg bar, argued that the best way of dealing with discrimination was to train black lawyers until they were clients' natural first choice because they were "brilliant" and perceived as the best money could hire.

"There will only be real transformation in my view when the Zumas of this world find themselves in a spot of bother, we see a black face representing them and not a white face."

Kolbe added that the problem was underlined by former police commissioner Jackie Selebi's decision to employ seasoned white advocate Jaap Cilliers to represent him in his corruption trial currently underway in Johannesburg.

She was reprimanded by Chief Justice Sandile Ngcobo who described her remark about President Jacob Zuma as unfortunate because "it amounts to being disrespectful to the president".

Kolbe replied: "No, not at all."

She said she had mentioned Zuma, who called on Kemp J Kemp SC when he faced corruption charges linked to the arms deal that were finally withdrawn in April, as an example because he was a prominent person whose choices did not go unnoticed.

Kolbe endured intense grilling from the JSC over her open clashes with Advocates For Transformation (AFT) about how to effect racial parity in the top ranks of the legal profession.

She said she believed AFT clamoured for change but did not do enough to make it a reality by helping black lawyers to achieve the merit to advance.

Among those to challenge her was new commissioner Ishmael Semenya, a prominent colleague at the Johannesburg bar, who said the constitutional requirement for racial representation in the judiciary could not wait until "all black lawyers are specialists".

He added that Kolbe had a reputation for being "absolutely abrasive".

Without naming any, Kolbe said good black lawyers often attracted so much government work that they did not move on to more challenging cases.

Gauteng Judge President Bernard Ngoepe asked Kolbe whether she was implying that black lawyers were "unbrilliant" to which she responded that this applied to the majority of advocates of all races.

Kolbe said she had long been involved in training black advocates because she believed this was the only way to redress racial imbalances.

"I'm not a politician, I cannot sit and talk about nice policies, I can train."

The debate was smoothed over by Justice Minister Jeff Radebe, who said it seemed Kolbe was simply explaining her practical contribution to transformation rather than dramatically differing with the dominant definition of it.

Kolbe also unexpectedly found succour from AFT chairperson Dumisa Ntsebeza.

He recalled that the Sunday Times had recently also noted the anomaly of Zuma, Selebi and axed national prosecuting chief Vusi Pikoli all hiring white counsel.

She was one of six candidates interviewed for positions on the North and South Gauteng benches.

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Oct 20 2009 06:17:42 PM
RSinangola
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Ouch! Some interesting statements made there. And the interviewers did not like it very much either. Some inferiority complex by some of them???
Oct 20 2009 06:25:52 PM
geanann
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I love it. They let black judges loose on the population, the black lawyers feel offended. Maybe they should wake up to the fact that people will not risk their freedom for the sake of AA and other stupid ideologies
See
http://letterdash.com/g.annandale/the-great-skills-mystery
Oct 20 2009 06:27:04 PM
Pride
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Hate to admit it myself, bt she had a point there..... Judge Hlophe employed all black team, there was not white, pink or semi black there, all black just to show case they blackz CAN!!!
Oct 20 2009 06:31:18 PM
mcritic
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Is Africa really changing?. This reminds me of a story told about president Banda of Malawi many years ago. He just became leader of Malawi and was about to fly out for his first overseas visit. There were thousands of people waving flags and cheering him - and out of the cockpit was also a cheering pilot - the first Black pilot from Malawi.

Banda looked at him and told them that he would under no circumstances stay on the plane unless thhey change the pilot.

End of that story. Only yesterday I made comments about that pesty Afrikaans Silks constantly defending people charged wth white collar crimes. or such.

Is it honest of people to say something is to be done for BEE - but the big people keep on ignoring it if it could affect themselves? I would not be overly happy if I was a Silk.

Another example of selective application of racist issues is with Mugabe. His main crooking agents are a certain Mr van Hoogstraaten, a certain Mr Bredenkamp and a certain Mr Billy Ruatenbach. All criminals of repute and all qualifying for one thing. Crooks - eh birds - of a feather flock togther.

The moral of the story - the big liars and crooks are White - the best Silks are White and the question is - can one evr trust a lawyer.

Please I am no racist and juts regard this as a bit of fluff to make us smile.
Oct 20 2009 06:34:28 PM
Mpahlani
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And what are they waiting for? Give her that thing you call a job. She is the right person for it, unless otherwise you wanted her to say your wife is a good cook. She nailed it, so mam, the job is all yours.
Oct 20 2009 06:38:08 PM
msimanga
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Oh this makes for pleasant reading. My vote goes to her.
Oct 20 2009 06:42:11 PM
Pride
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Sometimes we employ this whitez not bcoz they capable bt bcos they look good at our skin, like a pay back for our grand fatherz who worked hard for their ass back in them dayz. I had a white maid at some point in my life and i didn't employ her bcos she knw what she was doing, i just wanted to boss her around for my own good... so plz pinkies don't fool yourself there's more than it meet the eyes....lol...
Oct 20 2009 08:42:16 PM
VinceRSA
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The 28th colour of our Rainbow?
Oct 20 2009 08:43:20 PM
Eric
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@ Pride:

You had a white maid??

Yeah, right ... pull the other one, boy!
Oct 20 2009 10:21:25 PM
theyshoothorsesdontthey
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Pride said:


luckily you have a brown face, as this disguises the excrement dribbling out the corner of your mouth!!!
get over you inferiority complex!!!


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