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'Don't blame politicians for shootings'

Nov 4, 2009 11:31 AM | By Sapa

Allegations that "shoot to kill" orders had led to an increase in the number of shootings involving police must stop, the SA Policing Union said.


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GUNG-HO: 'Shoot to kill' calls have arguably encouraged police to take the law into their own hands
GUNG-HO: 'Shoot to kill' calls have arguably encouraged police to take the law into their own hands
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SAPU called on community members and the media "to stop making untested allegations that the alleged increase in the number of shootings involving members of the SAPS and alleged suspects or mistaken identified suspects is a result of what is commonly known as shoot to kill order by the police minister".

National police chief Bheki Cele is on record as saying police should not die with their guns in their pockets, but instead "shoot to kill at criminals".

"We must not be judged as being defensive, however we find it totally unacceptable and irresponsible when people undermine due processes and just pronounce without any facts," SAPU's general secretary Oscar Skommere said in a statement.

He said the Independent Complaints Directorate (ICD) was the only legitimate forum to investigate police brutality and deaths as a result of police action.

The ICD is investigating three incidents in which police officers allegedly shot dead four people over the weekend.

On Saturday, Kgothatso Ndobe, 21, was shot dead allegedly by a police officer, at his home in Atteridgeville, west of Pretoria.

The Sowetan newspaper reported on Monday that Ndobe's family and friends said he panicked when he saw the police because he was smoking dagga.

He allegedly ran and a police officer fired a shot that hit him in the head. Moments later, he was found dead inside a drain.

Two more killings were being investigated by the ICD, following a police raid that turned violent at Matsulu outside Nelspruit.

Mpumalanga police said the Matsulu community alleged that two people were shot dead by police during the weekend raid.

Two off-duty Pretoria policemen were arrested for allegedly shooting dead a street vendor after refusing to pay him in the early hours of Sunday.

The officers, stationed at Pretoria Central, were on their way from a pub to the police barracks when the incident happened.

"We send heartfelt condolences to the family of those people who might have been mistakenly killed by police officers whilst on duty," said SAPU.

It called upon its members to exercise extreme caution when taking huge decisions but at the same time, not allow themselves to be easy prey of ruthless criminals.

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Nov 4 2009 11:35:53 AM
Mielie
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Nov 4 2009 11:37:22 AM
iPen
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I'm not sure but I believe they may be confusing the issue. What I think has most South Africans' feathers ruffled is that the police seem to be quite trigger happy as it is, even before the new law (which promises to remove their weapon restrictions) has been signed.
Nov 4 2009 11:41:48 AM
Tackler
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So, ignore any advice and encouragement opportunistically ladled out by lippy cabinet ministers, police commissioners and even state presidents.

DO NOT shoot to kill. IGNORE the bigwigs trying to buy a quick soundbite or two on the TV news to make them sound decisive and competent.
Nov 4 2009 11:43:17 AM
Mommacyndi
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Lets see - the cry of 'shoot to kill' goes out and a week later the innocent bodies are piling up. Why would anyone assume the two incidents are mere coincidence?

By the way, when is ICD going to get around to investigating this? To the best of my knowledge they are still wading through over 400 cases in backlog.
Nov 4 2009 11:46:50 AM
hoodoo
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By June next year Shoot to Kill will have a different meaning...

Roll on 2010
Nov 4 2009 11:52:26 AM
TheMadame
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You can't stop the bullet once the gun has been triggered! can you?
Nov 4 2009 11:54:30 AM
ThembaM
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“Kgothatso panicked and ran. The trainee officer fired one shot.
“I asked Inspector Skosana if that was a warning shot or if it was aimed directly at the boy. Skosana said he did not care because that’s how they were told to operate.
“Moments later we found Kgothatso lying inside a drain with a bullet wound in his head.”

http://www.sowetan.co.za/News/Article.aspx?id=1084259
Nov 4 2009 12:19:24 PM
geanann
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Worse than the bodies piling up is the number of people killed with cop guns in the hands of criminals...seems the criminals are joining the police killing spree
see
http://letterdash.com/g.annandale/dead-cops-and-stolen-guns
Nov 4 2009 12:30:25 PM
Straight-talk
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I blame them,Zuma said the cops should do this accordingly, you expect a cop to understand the word"Accordingly".Maybe you should put dictionaries at police stations and also address this kind of things with 11 official languages.
Nov 4 2009 12:35:20 PM
MoreFire
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So what does this brainless Oscar think has caused the increase in the number of shootings by the SAPS members?


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