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Blaming media for violence a prelude to assault on rights

Nov 17, 2009 11:02 PM | By The Editor, The Times Newspaper

The Times Editorial: President Jacob Zuma's interaction with local artists yesterday offered a disturbing insight into how he sees the relationship between the media and violence.


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Here's what he said:

"Whatever we present is part of societal education. If you listen to . [radio] short stories you are exposed to conspiracies, to killing, to murders, everything you can think of, and the young people . are looking at it and choosing their own characters. And we sometimes wonder why society is so violent."

Then there was blood, violence and sex on television: "It is brought into our living rooms whether we like it or not.

"Then we wonder why our society is so violent and there is so much rape and everything. We contribute."

It seems that Zuma believes that there is a causal relationship between consuming media and anti-social behaviour.

This is a highly contentious link to make. It has been shown time and time again that people are able to distinguish between fantasy and reality.

In any event, most images of violence speak to people's fears, not their fantasies. If anything, they might confirm the average person's desire to avoid violent confrontation out of fear.

What makes the tiny minority act in a violent or anti-social way is often a much more direct motive, such as greed or a dysfunctional environment in which peers influence behaviour negatively.

What Zuma has said is pretty harmless. But what about the next step? What about those images of police violence at a protest? Are they inciting further violence too?

What about harsh criticisms of delivery failures? Do they incite violence?

At what point does concern for the wellbeing of citizens become censorship?

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Nov 18 2009 07:27:30 AM
pws80
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The ANC have been trying to subvert media freedom, and therefore democracy for years now. Just look at the two acts they tried, and failed, to hammer through in the last year.
Nov 18 2009 07:48:57 AM
Dukeboy
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It seems that Zuma believes that there is a causal relationship between consuming media and anti-social behaviour.
At what point does concern for the wellbeing of citizens become censorship?


You might like to reiterate these points to the cretin you have employed to moderate this site, Mr Hartley.
Nov 18 2009 09:24:29 AM
VinceRSA
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zuma is NOT an educated person so YES he will see things at face value, like when he pats his pet Juju on the tchijkop head.
and his party has successfully managed to keep the bulk of the nation stupified and dumbed down so that they brayyyyy at his every drop from the $hower-head too.

Look around you people, and do you really see an educated backbone of the nation any longer OR do you see a tidal wave of wannabee's all with outstretched claws and begging bowls consuming and devouring greedily - the reality of the continent.

Education can quite clearly be seen, as the greatest divide, and those 'that have' become the HAVE's and those 'that do not have', become the brawn force that has already spelled the deathknell of Democracy in these parts at any rate!

All wonderful people one on one, and HELL ON EARTH "EN MASSE" when incited and inflamed by leaders of the calibre now esconced.

AND DUKEBOY, Ray was given very tight lip by the sweetest Jessie around about the time of the last SA elections when she caught a number of frothies and threatened the very worst to The Times, favouring rather the most gentle and intelligent lil' black squalling jesus Juju.
If you think for one second that The Times self censor does not trot over the connecting bridge between Loot Freely and The Times offices for confirmations and authorisations you need to be examined as well.

The opinion makers even in this publication have become the most self centred and indulgent article fabricators this nation has ever produced, also to a degree far surpassing that of the erstwhile apartheid afrikaner pampered racist hounds.

IT IS AFRICA & IT IS REAL so enjoy the slide down - hopefully lining your pockets on the way just as the leadership do too.
Nov 18 2009 09:34:24 PM
Garrio
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By analogy: A dumb president makes the nation dumb.
Nov 19 2009 01:14:49 PM
VinceRSA
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Appropriate?

http://www.timeslive.co.za/thetimes/article38818.ece
Nov 22 2009 08:06:12 PM
Wise owl
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How many people are really able to distinguish between fact and fantasy? What about the TV soap actors here in SA who are attacked by people who cannot distinguish them and the character they portray? What about alienated and impressionable youths who want to emulate the gangsterism, sexual licence and generally negative values portrayed in movies, on TV, and in their music?
What about the following: "In a world incapable of telling truth from fable, NASA felt a duty to release a statement assuring moviegoers that the disaster film “2012,” coming to theaters this Friday, is just a movie fantasy and not a special effects simulation of real events to follow two years hence." http://blog.inthepublicsquare.com/2009/11/17/a-cataclysm-for-2012and-it-aint-from-space.aspx
If you don't think the media have an impact, why do advertisers use them?
The worldview of Western society has been radically changed through the influence of the mass media in the past 6 decades. The media used to exercise moral responsibility, but now they have done a moral cop-out in the much abused name of freedom of speech and spewed out depravity in its name, but really in pursuit of profits as they pander to innate human depravity just waiting How many people are really able to distinguish between fact and fantasy? What about the TV soap actors here in SA who are attacked by people who cannot distinguish between them and the characters they portray? What about alienated and impressionable youths who want to emulate the gangsterism, sexual licence and generally negative values portrayed in movies, on TV, and in their music?
What about the following: "In a world incapable of telling truth from fable, NASA felt a duty to release a statement assuring moviegoers that the disaster film “2012,” coming to theaters this Friday, is just a movie fantasy and not a special effects simulation of real events to follow two years hence." http://blog.inthepublicsquare.com/2009/11/17/a-cataclysm-for-2012and-it-aint-from-space.aspx
If you don't think the media have an impact, why do advertisers use them?
The worldview of Western society has been radically changed through the influence of the mass media in the past 6 decades. The media used to exercise moral responsibility, but now they have done a moral cop-out and spew out depravity in the much abused name of freedom of speech, but really in pursuit of profits as they pander to innate human depravity just waiting to be roused and exploited below what is often a veneer of civilised respectability.
Nov 22 2009 08:12:41 PM
Wise owl
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P.S. Don't know what happened - computer is grindingly slow, taking ages for each action to register, and somehow my comment got repeated - unlike Facebook, once posted, one can't delete and correct! In fact, I think it is the Scripts on FB that are causing the snarl-up....
Nov 22 2009 08:20:54 PM
Wise owl
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Corrected post:
How many people are really able to distinguish between fact and fantasy? What about the TV soap actors here in SA who are attacked by people who cannot distinguish between them and the characters they portray? What about alienated and impressionable youths who want to emulate the gangsterism, sexual licence and generally negative values portrayed in movies, on TV, and in their music?
What about the following: "In a world incapable of telling truth from fable, NASA felt a duty to release a statement assuring moviegoers that the disaster film “2012,” coming to theaters this Friday, is just a movie fantasy and not a special effects simulation of real events to follow two years hence." http://blog.inthepublicsquare.com/2009/11/17/a-cataclysm-for-2012and-it-aint-from-space.aspx
If you don't think the media have an impact, why do advertisers use them?
The worldview of Western society has been radically changed through the influence of the mass media in the past 6 decades. The media used to exercise moral responsibility, but now they have done a moral cop-out and spew out depravity in the much abused name of freedom of speech, but really in pursuit of profits as they pander to innate human depravity just waiting to be roused and exploited below what is often a veneer of civilised respectability.


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