Now Malema targets Botswana president
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The ANC Youth League has called for a government change in Botswana and said it would establish a "command team" to work towards united opposition against the "puppet regime" of President Ian Khama.
Speaking in Johannesburg after the league's national executive committee meeting yesterday, its president, Julius Malema, said there had been a decline in the influence of the Southern African Development Community (SADC) and the African Union (AU) since Thabo Mbeki's departure from the presidential office.
In a veiled swipe at President Jacob Zuma and other African leaders, he said there was a "vacuum in the ideological and political leadership of Africa and the subregions".
"The ANC Youth League will also establish a Botswana command team, which will work towards uniting all oppositional forces in Botswana to oppose the puppet regime of Botswana, led by the Botswana Democratic Party," Malema said.
"The BDP is a foot stool of imperialism, a security threat to Africa and always under constant puppetry [sic] of the United States."
Malema said the opposition in Botswana needed to be consolidated and that his organisation would help to bring changes in a "democratic manner".
"We know that Botswana is in discussions to open a military base for the imperialists and the present government of Botswana has the potential to co-operate in this manner."
He said a detailed plan would be unveiled once a team had been established to handle the situation in Botswana.
"There is no army involved here, there is nobody who is going to be trained and overthrown though a coup," Malema explained.
He said that, after the "interaction", a coalition party might be formed because the youth league believed opposition parties in Botswana were not strong enough to "properly topple that government through democratic means".
Previously, the youth league has questioned South Africa's role in Libya after Zuma's government voted for foreign intervention in the conflict in that country.
Yesterday Malema upped the ante in his stance against African leaders and took another swipe at Zuma, saying under Mbeki's leadership the AU and SADC had direction.
"The issue of the African Union and SADC, in particular, is informed by the latest development with regards to the Ivory Coast and Libya.
"In the past, we know president Mbeki used to represent that agenda very well.
"You'll remember that when Iraq was to be attacked by the imperialist forces, president Mbeki and the African Union [and] many other African states stood very firm, even though the imperialist forces continued to attack Iraq.
"At least as a continent, we knew where we stood," Malema said.
"As the youth league, everywhere where we identify space, we occupy that space. There is a space now, and we are going into SADC, we are going into Africa to consolidate the youth. As the youth of Africa, the future belongs to us and we must take it upon ourselves to defend that future.
"The African agenda is generally no longer a priority, and we think that there is a temptation by the coloniser and the imperialist to want to re-colonise Africa in a different but sophisticated way - and president Mbeki stood directly opposed to that type of conduct," he said.
Political analyst Daniel Silke said these type of comments have been a trend with Malema - he did the same about the situation in Zimbabwe - and that his latest remarks about Botswana could be a potential embarrassment to South Africa.
Silke said Malema's utterances could also cause tensions within SADC.
"It is an embarrassment for the ANC to have a section of its party make statements on issues of foreign policy. The minister of foreign affairs and the president should be the ones who speak on foreign policy, without interference.
"This again brings into the spotlight the lack of discipline in the ANC, which is the failure of the president and other ANC leaders to stop Malema from commenting on foreign policy matters," Silke said last night.



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mcritic
Posted 299 days agoI am a member of the ANC - but I cannot stand idiocy of a demented woodwork genius. Is there nothing the ANC can do to get rid of this embarrassing harpie?
Reliable
Bard
Just needs a couple of whiskers...
Who died and made him Minister of Foreign Affairs?
Or is he following in the footsteps of his "KING OF AFRICA", the Despot previously known as Ghadaffi... now just a WIMPERING ARAB.... hiding in a tent in the desert!
" let's meddle in other countries internal affairs"
Bob.Zim
MlunguMnyama70
The good thing is that all the whities will come to visit you every day, just because you love you for being you - stupid that is :D
Plasma
Posted 299 days agoJohnJameson
rights of those facing the death penalty, "Persons below 18 years
of age at the time of the commission of the crime shall not be
sentenced to death, nor shall the death sentence be carried out
on pregnant women, or on new mothers, or on persons who
have become insane." That last line will ensure that the ANCYL president survives.
dwnwitjuju
208525758
Francis
Posted 299 days agoZuma files assault charges against nation's pigeons for pooing on his car
2011-07-29 12:52
Fresh off his legal victory over notorious drink-spiller Daryl Peense, President Jacob Zuma today laid charges of assault against pigeons and clouds, claiming that "large
synchronised mobs of avian agents" had pelted his convoy with
counter-revolutionary poo and that "rogue white masses in the sky" had
maliciously dropped water onto his head on at least one occasion.
The President, who survived imprisonment on Robben Island and dodged
apartheid hit-men, apparently failed to evade Peense's total onslaught at
last year's Durban July, becoming the victim of a walk-by splashing.
However, this week he got his revenge, seeing the diabolical whiskey flinger
convicted of assault.
This morning Zuma's lawyer, Snakeoil Simenya, said that it was now time to
target others who dared squirt damp things at the President.
"The pigeons are going to be smirking out of the other side of their beaks
once we're done with them," he said. "I mean, this flagrant poo-flinging is
utterly inappropriate outside of Parliament or News69's comments section."
While he acknowledged that the task of arresting every single pigeon in
South Africa was "pretty intimidating", he said that the Presidency had
enlisted the full service of the South African Police Services, and hoped
their "shoot first, shred the docket later" approach might work in bringing
the airborne menace to heel.
Simenya would not be drawn on the pigeons' motive, but said there was a
worrying tendency for their poo to be white.
"We're not saying this is racial," he said. "But we're not saying it's not.
White poo? What are the pigeons planning next? A coo d'etat? A poo d'etat?
We just don't know."
He went on to explain that once the pigeons were dealt with, clouds would be
next.
"These white masses inevitably precipitate disruptions," said Simenya. "They
are raining on Msholozi's parade. Literally. At the last parade we had to
use three chamois and Blade Nzimande's silk boxer shorts just to get his
cranial dome dry. It has to stop."
Responding to criticisms that suing birds and clouds was petty and would tie
up valuable resources, Simenya said that the prosecutions would take very
little time.
"We've proved that in South Africa you've got a far better chance of nailing
someone for chucking whiskey on the President than for rape, murder or
corruption. We're totally playing to our strengths."
efil4zaggin
wetpaint
Great start to the day.
@Malema,
While you at it, don't forget the Mornachy of Swaziland, which you were very passionate about over-throwing recently. Oh, and not to mention your pal Bob across the border. Not forgeting the Chinese, who are invading almost every country in Africa under the guise of INVESTMENT.
Danny_Archer
buddi
zwelinapster
Posted 299 days agoSomebody please bring out that straight jacket already !!!
Th3mba
Posted 299 days agozwelinapster
ThembaM - is that you? ;-)
Danny_Archer
Banana_Republic
Posted 299 days agoSuiGeneris
Posted 299 days agozuma - What do you say about the fact that malema want meddle in the affairs of another country ?
I wish that the Botswana government will simply arrest malema and his party when they enter that county and cause some more embarrassment for zuma and SA.
buddi
zwelinapster
Posted 299 days agoAll comments removed as usual...
SuiGeneris
Posted 299 days agoMisterWendal
Posted 299 days agoTime to evacuate the space between your ears, mampara!
MrMarket
Posted 299 days agoI'm sure malema can sort that out in no time.
Stable afreakin countries are an eyesore and do not fit in with the demographic.
Porco
Posted 299 days agoMrJikelele
Posted 299 days agoThuka-Thuka
Posted 299 days agoMrJikelele
Posted 299 days agoCatsBell
Posted 299 days agoAny of you have knowledge of discussions to establish a US military base in Botswana? Juju is in a corner, so he may well be rolling out the heavy artillery of what he knows about what is going on in the ANC.
I say "in the ANC", because it's highly unlikely that the Botswana government will give permission for a US airbase in their country without first having discussed it with our government: under president Mbeki we expressed strong opposition to the US AFRICOM initiative of which the base would form part if it were to be established, and bad relations with us would do far more harm to the economy of Botswana than the advantages of selling out to the US would bring them.
I won't put it past the hyenas in power in the ANC to give a nudge-nudge, wink-wink approval to the establishment of such a base (provided they're handsomely rewarded for their treachery of course).
On the other hand, Juju and his corrupt clique may be so desperate that they're just spouting nonsense to try and stay out of jail. That certainly seems to have been the case with their attack on the Rupert family to get at the City Press, only to be told that the Ruperts do not hold a significant portion of shares in Naspers.
RicReturns
$$$$$$$
Posted 299 days agotomtit
Posted 299 days agoWhat a plonker!
BobbyBob
Posted 299 days agoTalk of nationalisation = loss of new investment , loss of jobs .
Racism = singlehandedly reversed the achievements of Mandela, the world cup etc... by reintroducing fear and distrust.
Corruption = brings it to a new level , entrenching the concept in his youth league and other ANC members
Nationalisation = will bring economic growth to a halt, introduction of his "policies" will lead to massive poverty , economic implosion , bringing the economy to its knees.
Destruction = A destabilising force in SA and countries other than SA, he is the most destructive politician we have had since Verwoerd.
Violence = His racist hate talk and calls for violence ( see Mnet carte Blanche last night?) has dark overtones not unlike those of Rwandan politicians prior to 1994.
Are we really going to let him destroy this country?
Bob.Zim
$$$$$$$
Posted 299 days agokhallawaya
BobbyBob
Beelzebub
Posted 299 days agoCalling for regime change in another African state? If anything this highlights what a hypocrite Malema is. He fully supports the dictator in Libya, but has different standards for Botswana ... interesting.
As for the US military airbase ... absolute bollox. This is nothing but a rehash of an unfounded rumour that last did the rounds a few years ago. I mean really, where is the strategic value for the USA in having an airbase in this part of the world? Only our resident trolls would swallow this nonsense.
buddi
Beelzebub
If memory serves me right, Khama was married to a white woman. That is guaranteed to get Malema's knickers in a knot.
buddi
JKruppski
Posted 299 days ago#33: Botswana
#54: South Africa (ranked after Saudi Arabia, but on par with Kuwait)
Think that says it all, really
grant99
khallawaya
Posted 299 days agoThe-Monq
Posted 299 days agoI mean there are people, inlcuding the youth of Africa, who believe in these ideologies as he, but obviously others are scared enough to even NOT go as far as getting themselves heard as people who have these ideas or who are known tio be thinking in this manner.
Simply, look into Europe and the America's where you find that these ideas are exercised even entertained (if not SUPPORTED by politicians, parliamentarians and even law-makers) by the influential members of their societies. We look at last month saga in Norway, Anders behaved in a way he believed was for the mass, and so was also supported in his comments of his actions by European politicians, and many others who also second the man's reason about Europe wanting to ensure that it stays Europeans' (by means of ensuring that it's only Europe's ideas that are lived within their region), and he, Malema, too feel there needs to be ideas that are indegenious to our environment- we could be happy that at least the ' through-tender-money-super-rich' Malema is not using means of violence like the westerns do, and also we could be generous to the fact that, there's nothing African any longer about Africa, and the people like him is starting dialogue into this, even if maybe is done in the wrong way as those who could do it the right way are 'chickening to their death' when needing to think of it alone!
Africans (whether black, white maroon, yellow, careless the colour) need to start living in ways that could also assist them understand themselves, their environment, their conditions and the likes, in that this would teach many the differences they comman, and the way forward in living with all these 'differences', harmoniously- until then, people will continue to 'misunderstand' others, enough that these very differences will for always create fences bordering the 'living-together' ideas of South Africa.
Forward with African ideas into Africa....
khallawaya
.........What absolute nonsense!!!!!........
SuiGeneris
buddi
MrJikelele
efil4zaggin
The-Monq
deebee
Posted 299 days agokhallawaya
Posted 299 days agoYou wont last a minute because they will mop you fat ass up in no time. """""""
the reason why the "fierce" Pink Lion will never show his courage-six-armed-bodyguards level.......
“excitable, malicious, malignant, vengeful, unforgiving, selfish, stingy, avaricious, coarse, vulgar, profane, obscene, a furious blusterer on the outside and at heart a coward.”(MT)
SuiGeneris
Posted 299 days agoAccording to the annual 2010 Ibex by the Mo Ibrahim Foundation for countries with the best run governments, the Botswana government are doing a better than Zuma !
Here you can see the latest ratings of countries on the African continent......
1 - 83.0 % = Mauritius
2 - 78.5 % = Seychelles
3 - 75.9 % = Botswana
4 - 75.5 % = Cape Verde
5 - 71.5 % = South Africa
6 - 67.3 % = Namibia
7 - 64 6 % = Ghana
8 - 62.1 % = Tunisia
9 - 60.5 % = Egypt
10 - 90.1 % = Lesotho
SuiGeneris
SuiGeneris
grant99
NikitaNaidoo29
Posted 299 days agoWhy hasnt he been fired as yet??!!
Its so sad that he was chosen to lead the youth in our country what a damn disgrace!!!!
Mzungu
Testing the waters. Then the ruling repressive government knows "how far" they can go to put restrictions on the public.
Apparently he gets handsomely paid for it.
The-Monq
Posted 299 days ago@SuiGeneris
@Khallawaya
Come on all, lets stop with the senseless rhetorics and criticisms that are unfounded...
first give any reason, Khallawaya, to say that this is non-sense (not reffering to Anders) and you SuiGeneris prove to me (the one with limited eduction- but has more better understanding of environmental influences than you, ASSUMINGLY as baas with unbordered education but do NOT have environmental understanding) that, nothing in the growth of small group of a population to a larger one that the understanding of immediate envirnment (inlcuding the people of that environment or their psychology) has never helped the understanding of 'communial' living, and in actual effect have assisted establish some sense of harmony in those very places.
You in individual cases have never looked inot this, and understood, never! All you guys do is to say look at Londion, look at Zurich- well to help you understand something those places are far removed for the ones anywhere in Africa to compare when needing to look at the challenges faced here. Until Africa starts to isolate the Europe's and America's successes as the way we should do things in Africa, we will never be able to prosper as a continent, because we are going to be living somebody else's experiences than creating our own.
You guys need to get out of your rondavels and porches...and get to learn more about what is not taught in your household! The environment is more than a surrounding...
BobbyBob
khallawaya
.....there is nothing to debate with you or anybody, particularly with the string of unconnected ideas you try to state........
.........All is related with the line between right and wrong, see?......
...If Malema, the "leader" is a leader, then he should lead with the example, comprende???......And because he is a "leader", he should be beyond reproach........So he is accountable to anyone who he "leads".......
........If a gangster steals openly and wants to pass for a good fellow, don't expect anyone with common sense to accept it.......Don't count that everyone is just as stupid as to believe Malema's bulls.hit to disguise that he is a crook with dangerous dreams to become a dictator.....
.......and don't paint the "african" mentality with the corruption, thievery and fraud and lies as the "normal african way".........After all, you are the among the ones to blame for creating such image.........
The-Monq
Posted 299 days agoPrejudice-White South Africans with are but a joke!
Start counting boois...
BobbyBob
The-Monq
...and some mislead fool stuck their head into the clouds like all the other times...no positivity, constructiveness or any senses, but rants!
Beelzebub
Wiseguy
Wiseguy
Posted 299 days agoWhere and how does he get off critizing Botswana Gov and their Pres. where people live in a peaceful democracy, have food to eat, good schools and are actually able to improve their lot in life....while our other neighbour, Zim, is a complete and utter basket case of corruption, run by power grubbing dicktatorship who have used their power to oppress and abuse their populace and ruined the economy, education, health dept resulting in hundreds of thousands of refugee's....yet he says ZIP, Aheko, NADA. Zilch....NOTHING!!!! U r the puppet Malema....a ZANU-PF puppet!!
And he actually wants us to believe he has the people of Africa's best interests at heart.
To all YL members and supporters...I have this to say.....if his (Malema's) rhetoric/speeches sounds like ZANU-PF, smells like ZANU-PF and tastes like ZANU-PF.....then they probably are ZANU-PF !
So if you really want to follow broken, destructible, idiotic policies that have proven to result in MASSIVE starvation, unemployment and a refugee crisis.....then keep supporting Malema! Anyone else who actually see's the light and hasn't yet been too brainwashed to think for themselves......use your brains, feet and most importantly VOTE to get this man as far away from politics as possible !
@ the MONQ....don't u think it is just a little, titsy wee bit starnge that Malema pours out criticism of Botswana and swaziland....but NOT a single word against the dicktator in Zim?? Maybe u with your in depth african insight can shed some light on this for us? Because I can only come to one logical conclusion....MALEMA = ZANU-PF puppet!!!!!
Wiseguy
Bonganani
Posted 299 days agoSuiGeneris
Monkeybusiness
Posted 299 days agoRightway
Posted 299 days agoWe are already on our way. It will need a total change of mind set by the ANC to prevent this from happening. Do not hold your breathe. Decency, integrity, honour, accountability, and doing the right thing are not ANC policy. Nor is begging or borrowing. However stealing and acting like idiots, they are good at.
buddi
martinx.kumalo85
Posted 298 days agoAlso should send back the stolen diamonds and cows that he was paid to campaign against Mugabe's enemies in Zim , regionionally and abroad.
To Malema i must say, I hate plagiarism and ...biased idealogy.
To me, I see Malema for who he is.... A hired gun!!!!
robjhb
Posted 298 days agothere are some serious objectives:
- how can somebody be ANCYL president for this country's youth without any prof. education and that have never worked in his life - what kind of example is this person for our youth.
- why is this ANCYL president doesn't care about the challenges for our youth, I think we have enough topics for this organisation to look at: improve education, start youth programms, initiatives, etc., not only giving tshirts and some food to the mass during some votes - this is slavarey.
- why does the ANC allow the ANCYL president to get into international affairs
Those are just a few topics, I really hope - as already said here - that the purpose of this organisation can be all about YOUTH of this country, and that the youth wakes up and starts to penalize this bad actors.
The-Monq
Posted 298 days agoI agree with you- you are NOT able to debate with me, especially when you fail to understand that communial-living, environment and environmentally-inclined-mindsets are RELATED!
It all goes to say that you do not have a wholistic view into things.
In the words of Hernando De Soto:"...in lands where households are distant from one another, when a man walks into another man's land, the dog(s) of that land will bark as to raise awareness about there being a trespasser (person unknown to the immediate place), and in its action to raise awareness indicating the border between these two household's (or men's lands)..."
Open your mind, stop thinking that the world ends at your stoep, or rondavel!
khallawaya
...kid, spare me your environmentally-tilted-absurdities........The issue is Malema is a crook and he is accountable and whatever excuse he and the Pink Lions Gang come up with to divert the attention............
.....alternatively, tell me what you are smoking, so I can come out of my rondavel, open my mind and understand your abstract nonsense..........
The-Monq
But it's actually about the idea of questioning the long-serving of a president of a democratic country, without him ever coming any closer to surrendering (or approaching the final term of) the presidency to the other deserving likely-candidates. Whether the few judge it to be favourable for him to be president, but a single-president government is NOT democratic. THe question is why it seems more, and more that he (Botswana president) remains a president because his work is favoured in the west, and cannot be found to have any PLACE in Africa where the country is. With that, it would mean it is not serving its immediate environment but rather the few it pleases whom ARE / MIGHT NOT be within the environment...
I have come to establish that you're NOT really any much of a bright-spark as you pretend to be, but at least conny-banter, masquerading behind an agenda.
Ultimatum
Posted 298 days agoWe are now on the second stage (evolutes africa), after this we take the world by storm.
Malemas dilemma wont stop the youth, he is our miuth ad is replacable, take him to jail or robbin island we dont care. Another leader will rise, far stronger than him.
We the youth of this country have objectives and we will achieve them.
SuiGeneris
Your youth are like a bunch of sheep on a conveyor in reverse mode !
deebee
You're not serious though, are you? You really think that someone who strives to emulate Zimbabwean policy (EPIC FAIL) and visits Venezuela (EPIC FAIL) for economic advice should be listened to? He's functionally illiterate - as is Jabob Zuma. By that I mean for the positions they hold. Neither one has a cooking clue about anything outside of ANC factional politics. Nothing at all.
Thought
khallawaya
dwnwitjuju
Thought
Posted 298 days agokhallawaya
Posted 298 days ago.............ha ha ha ha ha ha .....good heavens!!!!...........maybe Mars next........HA HA HA HA HA HA...........
Mukori
Posted 298 days agoMalema is an elected ANC party official and like it or not his utterances have to be seen as ANC party policy!
It is high time ANC, South Africans and all freedom loving people of all nationalities slammed Malema down. Like Mugab, he is a dangerous lose cannon who must be stopped before it is too late!
khallawaya
Posted 298 days ago"""""......The ANC also distanced itself from the ANCYL's contention that the African Union and Southern African Development Community (SADC) had veered off the African agenda.
"This insult and disrespect to the President (Honourable Ian Khama), the government and the people of Botswana and a threat to destabilise and effect regime change in Botswana is a clear demonstration that the ANCYL's ill-discipline has clearly crossed the political line," said Mthembu......."""""""
Thought
dwnwitjuju
Posted 298 days agodeebee
Posted 298 days agoThe-Monq
Posted 298 days ago"Malema said the opposition in Botswana needed to be consolidated and that his organisation would help to bring changes in a "democratic manner".
"There is no army involved here, there is nobody who is going to be trained and overthrown though a coup," Malema explained.
Had Jackson made sure he understood these statements he would not have went and made people from 'the-other-end-of-the-fence' and the investors running amock in frenzy of uncertainties and paranoia...some of us should just ensure that our roles do not cloud what is actually happening, and be more willing to give people chances as to express meanings to their actions, and utterance. Let alone the facts that Malema makes statements that are not even in accordance with the planning, ideas and work of the ANC, including NOT being a patron of country's (or as it has come to be known: Mandela's goal for RSA's diverse people) goal of creating a unified nations, he makes valid point as good as it could have been somebody to whom the general masses take to, and are willing to speak.
Am not necessarily a fan / supporter of Malema and his antics but I believe he definitely spoke of a topic that really needs attention, from all the RACES that share Africa so that going forward and when these old fossils would NOT be there anymore, there would be certainties and security; that all will be in states of wellbeing without feeling the threat of 'forced-removal' or something such as the Norways recent 'incident'. Because once these group of leaders grow into the position that are currently occupied by 'their elders', there definitely then is going to be serious issues of instasbility and fall in race-relation in the country.
Even the RACES that will feel that Malema is threatneing their livelihood should be brought into discussion and orals and be made aware of these kinds of ideas as this happen globally, and are NOT only isolated to ANC-ruled RSA. We also as the people of RSA should be open enough to allow dialogue that pave ways forward.
BarryPotgieter
Posted 296 days agoHopefully IDIOT malema will go to Botswana so that the Botswana Gov. can arrest him for enticement of WAR and discontent among the Botswana people.
malema Desperately needs to see a head shrink as there surely is something wrong with his mental state.WESKOPPIES ??????????????????????