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Sat May 26 13:32:23 SAST 2012

SA to be 'ungovernable'

ANNA MAJAVU | 22 August, 2011 00:4370 Comments
NYDA chair Andile Lungisa. File Photo.
Image by: Elizabeth Sejake / The Times

Andile Lungisa, the chairman of the National Youth Development Agency, which gets R350-million a year to create opportunities for young people, has threatened to make South Africa "ungovernable" next month because of high youth unemployment.

At the Black Management Forum young professionals' summit in Cape Town on Friday, he attacked the ANC government, young black professionals, African leaders, the DA, Afriforum and the "Stellenbosch mafia".

"In September, we are going to close every street in South Africa. If there is a cheese in your fridge, they are going to take it," Lungisa said.

"On the slowness of government, we will march; we will close all the streets."

Lungisa hit out at white and black professionals, saying: "Those who have hairstyles, those who are wearing ties but not helping their community, will be affected. The white males, they need to be attended [to]."

His remarks came after young black professionals in the audience asked him if the agency gave funding to small businesses, or if that was only "a myth".

Lungisa responded by lashing out at the forum's young professionals provincial leader, Thuso Segopolo, his colleague. Papama Matsiliza, DA youth leader Makashule Gana and Charl Oberholzer, of Afriforum, who had just held a panel discussion on "youth as the epicentre of African development".

Lungisa told them they had been talking about Africa without knowing anything about African Union agreements.

"Most of the panellists are not informed," Lungisa told them. "I must conduct induction and build your capacity."

South Africa's problems were due to the "Stellenbosch mafia", a group of unnamed, wealthy Stellenbosch families, whom Julius Malema blamed last month for creating opposition to nationalisation.

"The issue of Stellenbosch mafias, the Oppenheimers, must be attended [to. It cannot be] that all of us must live with five white families who live in Stellenbosch and control the economy."

Lungisa said that "on the African continent we have the weakest leadership ever" - before the audience reminded him to answer the question about funding by his agency.

He said a state due-diligence investigation had found that the agency needed R600-million a year to operate.

"That part was never processed by our own government.

"It became the first limitation. Up to today, the [agency] has not been funded by our own government. It survived because of creativity," Lungisa said.

In fact, the agency got R370-million from the government last year. In February, it was allocated R1.22-billion for the next three years, about R400-million a year.

Lungisa said the quality of education in South Africa was poor. "If you go to Standard Bank, to FNB, to the Reserve Bank, all the guys in charge, they come from Zimbabwe," said Lungisa.

Higher-quality Zimbabwean education had to be implemented in South Africa.

Black Management Forum committee member Andile Nomlala said his organisation would not support Lungisa's plan for marches next month.

Lungisa was "making very scary declarations of making this country ungovernable. I stand very worried because surely this will affect my business", he said.

Nomlala said the forum's young professionals would rather find solutions. He told Lungisa they had "adopted" township schools and were raising funds for them.

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mcritic

Posted 278 days ago
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Is this piece of unadulterated rubbish not drawing a salary of R1 800 000 a year paid by the taxpayers of this country. This type of comment is in line with the comments of the FAT ONE.

This is comment which should automatically lead to a charge of misconduct and automatic discharge. Maybe he would then find a place where he cannot spend his ill-begotten millions or organise "naaidaar" parties.
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Bard

Posted 277 days ago
THE LUNATICS HAVE TAKEN OVER THE ASSYLUM!!!!!!!!

Beelzebub

Posted 278 days ago
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Is it April fools day?
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Allien

Posted 278 days ago
with the youf, every day is fools day!

Baas_Frik

Posted 278 days ago
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This ammounts to high treason and is punishable by the death sentance. Why has he not been arrested? The ANC leadership must wake up the youth are standing up. They are by far the strongest group in all of the ANC's structures and they are mostly uneducated and unemployed. They will make the Soweto riots of 1976 look like a Sunday school picnic.
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Abdulla

Posted 278 days ago
In less than 5 years we will see the London style riots here, pity the people rioting will be doing it for the wrong reasons or just doing as their leeedas tell them.
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BornintheRSA

Posted 277 days ago
This is treason and "used to" carry capital punishment. This R 350mil could provide R 2000 per month to more than 14,500 youth for a whole year. What is there to show for it. Suspect another Breitling or two to go with the Sandton houses.
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Wort

Posted 275 days ago
Newsflash -- there is NO death penalty for ANY offence any longer. Not even high treason.

the_original_MommaCyndi

Posted 278 days ago
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??? so they are going to destroy the economy in order to get jobs ???

If that is the average logic level of the 'youth' then it is hardly surprising that they are not employable.
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Baas_Frik

Posted 278 days ago
Yes they are because they do not understand as they have never been educated.
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the_original_MommaCyndi

Posted 278 days ago
Hey there Frik,
Education aside, it just goes to show that common sense isn't that common
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Baas_Frik

Posted 278 days ago
Good morning. In Afrika we have a different kind of common sense. I do however think the government must act against these people otherwise it is going to bite them in the back in time to come. The Boeremag trial in Pretoria shows a few die hard farmers who threatened the government with violence and they are kept in leg irons yet these youth representatives are guilty of the same crimes but they walk free. Makes no sense at all.
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rahima

Posted 278 days ago
What has any body connected to the ANC organized successfully? (The World Cup, remember, was run by foreigners).

This may cause minor disruption in a few isolated places and then fizzle out.
But it is dangerous talk and it should be crushed.
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Baas_Frik

Posted 278 days ago
Jeedo
I never speak about black or White people. Check my comments. I only speak about people. So maybe since you raised the issue of skin colour you are the racist and not me???
I think the majority of our people are good and that is why I believe in this country. Unfortunately most of them are not represented in the current ANC government.

Siiinudeity

Posted 278 days ago
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LOL, what a fool.

Clearly, just a bunch of idiots in the ANCYL.

Abdulla

Posted 278 days ago
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The anc alreaady cannot govern so to try and make the country ungovernable won't yield results.
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Baas_Frik

Posted 278 days ago
Good point.
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jeedo

Posted 278 days ago
That is very disappointing. Especially when Freek supports you. My brother you need help, wake up and smell the coffee, the ANC has been governing this country since 1994 way better than the apartheid regime when state perpetrated murders and violence were the order of the day. You and Freek can now write cr*p on this site because you have the freedom to do that. If it was apartheid times you wouldn't write your sh*tty ideas on this site.
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buddi

Posted 278 days ago
@Jeeda
In which country are you living - there are more state aided deaths (murders) and violence than ever before. And while the apartheid government was doing it all for the whites, what is the anc doing for its own people? The only ones benefitting from "freedom" is the select few 'chosen' ones.
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Abdulla

Posted 278 days ago
@Jeedo
At least the taxpayer wasn't taxed to death. understand my statement before making silly comments, I never compared the anc with the apartheid government, what they did back then was wrong and the leders should have been brought to book, but should we let the anc ruin the country simply because they have declared themselves the saviuor from apartheid, should we let them destroy the economy because we are all threated equally?

MisterWendal

Posted 278 days ago
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Time to shut down this fund-raising arm of the ANCYL. Why should our taxpaying money be generously splashed out annually to these chops?
FFS!

wetpaint

Posted 278 days ago
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Lungisa hit out at white and black professionals, saying: "Those who have hairstyles, those who are wearing ties but not helping their community, will be affected. The white males, they need to be attended [to]."

Isn't this tantamount to hate speech? He must be charged accordingly.
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buddi

Posted 278 days ago
On a lighter note, at least the white females have nothing to worry about!
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Wort

Posted 275 days ago
What does "those who have hairstyles" mean? That baldies have nothing to worry about? Only hairy people need to be concerned? Pity those poor old rastafarians!

Beelzebub

Posted 278 days ago
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Lungisa attend to white males??!! HA HA HA .. He'll catch a moerse klap.
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Bard

Posted 278 days ago
Thats about all this NUMBNUT DESERVES.... a P USS KLAP!

Maybe he will be in a "REASONING MOOD" there after!

Salary of R1,5m and he is supposed to organise the Youth jobs???

His own ar5e is covered.... NO ONE ELSES!!!!!

Banana_Republic

Posted 278 days ago
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When an institution of the state threatens to overthrow or make that state ungovernable, isn't that a coup?

Allien

Posted 278 days ago
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"If you go to Standard Bank, to FNB, to the Reserve Bank, all the guys in charge, they come from Zimbabwe," Is it because they chose to be in charge of their destiny than wait for the government to give them grants?

zwelinapster

Posted 278 days ago
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This is a sign that SA is being held hostage by the lumpen proletariat, and a direct threat with civil war.

Key sentence: "If there is a cheese in your fridge, they are going to take it".

Hello Russia 1917.

BokFan

Posted 278 days ago
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Hai wena This Lungisa is trying to move JZ's cheese. Out of the fridge.

A cheesethief earning I.5 a year to sound like Mugabe being played backwards. Only in Zuma's Mzansi.

Heita Mr Wendal I have never seen you this angry before.
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MisterWendal

Posted 278 days ago
Aweh, BokFan!
I was in a good mood after watching the Boks bliksem the AllBlacks in my city.
Then the imbeciles from the ANCYL (and their sponsoring front, the NYDA) have to go and spoil everything with their idiotic cheese thievery.

Stinks - but at least we now know who cut the cheese!

Biko-Lives

Posted 278 days ago
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We are 100% behind this call! Amandla!! Its long over due!! From now on they must know that it is business unusual for the five families in Stellenbosch!! It is our time we eat too! Those sitting in parliament massaging their bellies must sell their expensive cars and blue light cops if needs be until the issues affecting the youth are dealt with!
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BokFan

Posted 278 days ago
Spot on about the anc trash in Parliament

As for the rest we all know you are 100% behind.
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BobbyBob

Posted 278 days ago
This is the kind of extraordinary response that makes people think we are all i#iots. There is nothing here about the future, or jobs, or prosperity , or education or growing the economy. It's only about revenge, nothing remotely constructive here.
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Loggenberg

Posted 278 days ago
Biko,

It's strange how many South African's would be satisfied living in an ungovernable place like Somalia/ Mogadishu. I think you should shout louder. Maybe South Africa will be there soon
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bakaebakae

Posted 277 days ago
Biko lives

The fact that you can respond to an online article means you part of the crew with cheese in their fridge and who wears suits to work.........including himself lungile....i thought this guy was dom but now really.....he is worse than damn!
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cj715

Posted 277 days ago
such amazingly high levels of stupidity, these morons from the ANCYL just never cease to amaze!!

Amber_82

Posted 278 days ago
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Everything else this guy is talking about does not make any sense maybe he should consider cutting down his salary and donate a bit to the youths hows that? However i agree with him on quality education - we need equal quality education for all how does the government expect employers to hire someone who has lower grades vs a higher grade pupil honestly??

buddi

Posted 278 days ago
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"The issue of Stellenbosch mafias, the Oppenheimers ,,,,,,

What about the Zuma, Malema, Gupta, inc. mafia? How much work are they providing.

buddi

Posted 278 days ago
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Lungisa said the quality of education in South Africa was poor. "If you go to Standard Bank, to FNB, to the Reserve Bank, all the guys in charge, they come from Zimbabwe," said Lungisa.
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And whose fault is that?
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BobbyBob

Posted 278 days ago
Lungisa , dont forget to vote ANC again, for more of the same.

WhackAndBlyt

Posted 278 days ago
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Is there anyone who is contemplating suicide? Can you please just do away with this trash before you kill yourself... Pleeeeeease!!!!

gale

Posted 278 days ago
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The comtsotsis (the comrade tsotsis) are now ruling this country. A country which is ruled by criminals will go to hell in the shortest time. You will have your paradise: no work, no food, no money, nothing to buy. Long live the communist paradise! Just have a look in Zimbabwe! We do not have effective politicians. Zuma is a puppet of the criminals.

Scribbles

Posted 278 days ago
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Our taxes would be better spent on education rather than ineffective groups such as the National Youth Development Agency. It's a practical choice versus a purely symbolic one.
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cANCerSurvivor

Posted 278 days ago
I hear that! Very typical of this regime...

MSLebona

Posted 278 days ago
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I am currently studying Youth Development through a learnership. Yes, I worry about getting a job after this. Now, I'm even more worried by such comments from "youth leadership". Andile, with all due respect, making the country "ungovernable" is not a solution and I quote you "In September, we are going to close every street in South Africa. If there is a cheese in your fridge, they are going to take it,". Sir, this is called looting and it is illegal.

One of the principles (principle 4 (a)) that guides Youth Development is: "promotion of the value of sustainability in order to ensure that the needs of the youth are met without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs;".

It makes more sense economically and otherwise to put all that evergy into doing something positive and beneficial for our youth and our country than to ask us to close every street. Even if that happens, we will not wake up the next morning with jobs. I'd rather sweat and get sunburnt because I was walking up and down, dropping my CV off in various companies than getting sunburnt from toyi-toying.
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SuiGeneris

Posted 278 days ago
''''''''''If there is a cheese in your fridge, they are going to take it,". Sir, this is called looting and it is illegal.''''''''''

YES - ILLEGAL !!!!

It will also be trespassing, breaking and entry, stealing, putting the life of my family at risk and giving me the opportunity to use force protect my family and my property !!!!

OTTOOTTO

Posted 278 days ago
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This loudmouth ought to fired and dislodged from his lavish perch from where he is perpetraing this treason. He is a government agent and cannot possibly defacate on the hand that feeds him. He is a moron!

fandango

Posted 278 days ago
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I don't know about them taking the cheese, but they are welcome to the trash.

VUKUZENZELE

Posted 278 days ago
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If this is not a DECLARATION of WAR and the SABOTAGE and DESTRUCTION of this Country,then what else could it mean.
Zuma,you and your gang now has to stand up and criminally charge and arrest these Terrorists and crush the head of the snake with Malema and his GANG which is working in conjunction with these fools immediately,if not, the blood is going to flow before the end of this year and you will be hung up by your neck by your own youth league and there criminal gangs.
The R350 Million that the TAX PAYER gives yearly,is not going for the youth but to train and prepare the youth for a WAR to "TRY" and get the White.Indian.Colored and other Races out of South Africa.
And this is no pessimism speaking,but the truth and a fact of life.

pik_it_up

Posted 278 days ago
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you can remove all my twenty comments fact remains THERE ARE TOO MANY IDIOTS IN POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

inkunzi

Posted 278 days ago
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Anarchy and sabotage is what is being threatened by this Andile Lungisa. The government has to come hard on these brats. If it's not izinyoka sabotaging our economy, it's the unions with their trashing of our cities and now the NYDA/ANCYL want to bring chaos to this country?

BrianKZN

Posted 278 days ago
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This guy is an IDIOT, plain and simple.
In African culture the elders are looked up to and respected.
These juveniles respect nothing except money. They do not care about education, hospitals etc. As long as they have their cars, watches, expensive suits, and whiskey they are happy. And they will keep their ill-gotten wealth it will never devolve down to the people it is meant for.
This state-of-affairs has arisen due to week, no, non-exsistant government and leadership.
The rot has set in and is almost non-reversible. The wealth of the counrty is being wasted, and in the current economic situation not likely to be re-couped, whilst the partying of the ignorants continues. VIVA AFRICA VIVA.

BobbyBob

Posted 278 days ago
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Make the country ungovernable ? Goodness , this from an ANC member, who voted ANC, gets paid by ANC, then undermines the ANC.
Hello, anyone at Luthuli house awake?

Pipza

Posted 278 days ago
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Lungisa is out of order. His statements are reckless and very irresponsible, not befitting someone entrusted with the onus to lead such a big organisation.
His remarks show the quality of leadership that we have been subjected to. No imagination whatsoever. The only thing they know is radicalism and blaming others for their own failures.

Rather than rendering the country 'ungovernable', he should find ways of engaging government and business to lobby for more financial backing. He is not doing this because he cannot come up with any business proposal to justify this.
We are really fed up with these rascals. South Africa deserves better.
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MSLebona

Posted 278 days ago
Couldn't agree with you more!
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NinaValetta

Posted 277 days ago
"We are really fed up with these rascals. South Africa deserves better." I could not have expressed it any better. "Amen!
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Rightway

Posted 277 days ago
Ditto. However reality check. We have the leaders we deserve. The majority voted for these failures who can only play the race card for they have no other card to play.

dwnwitjuju

Posted 278 days ago
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Andile Lungisa is just another corrupt politician in the making...same old song and dance
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BobbyBob

Posted 278 days ago
Wants to be the next Julius, once he's been expelled.

Gus

Posted 278 days ago
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Can anyone tell us what the NYDA actually does? Having another little Hitler running around cannot be good for SA. While this little specimen claims to represent the youth, he draws a salary comparable to a CEO of a major corporation??? from taxpayes nogal! SA needs brains to get going and start producing and adding value to the global economy. The last thing we need are these little "human faeces" with a lot to say, but no track record of delivery behind them. History tells us that the ones who say the most are usually the one's who do the least! Calling this little man a parasite is being far too kind.

Taboy

Posted 278 days ago
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What has SA giving birth to a lot of Malema mampara youth leaders with blind-folded followers???

bakaebakae

Posted 277 days ago
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This retards in NYDA should never be invited to any event....they are a disgrace to SA youth!

StraightToThePoint

Posted 277 days ago
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Andile, typical ANC leader. Why do you speak first and do the thinking later?... I doubt if there was any thinking done here... These are stupid remarks you are making out here... ANC is really exposing it's level of stupidity. What has the NYDA achieved since it's inception? What is the function of this NYDA, or is it another Ratanang Trust?

It's true that any man should be considered intelligent n smart, until he opens his mouth. You are such a rascal chana...

cj715

Posted 277 days ago
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it's time we start making our voice heard, these idiots are ruining our livelihood... this country shouldn't be run by cadres anymore

SuiGeneris

Posted 277 days ago
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What a disgrace you are in the face of human beings !

Cant you ever build something or do something constructive ?

TROGLODYTES !!!!!!!!

Beelzebub

Posted 277 days ago
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"if there is cheese in your fridge, they are going to take it"
"those who have hairstyles, those who are wearing ties"
"i must conduct induction, and build your capacity"
"stellenbosch mafias"
"if you go to (the) bank, all the guys in charge, they come from Zimbabwe"

My word, I remember as a white man, how I use to cringe in embarrasment when ET used to open his mouth, and the nonsense came tumbling out.
I wonder how intelligent black South African's feel when the likes of Juju, Shivambu and Lungisa spew their nonsense.
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zwelinapster

Posted 277 days ago

Next thing expect to hear 'Gulags'. For the intelligentsia, the middle class and the minorities. Once their cheese has been expropriated in revolutionary manner of course.

Tokolosh

Posted 277 days ago
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Look at this man Andile Lungisa, he is stirring and has a lot of skeletons to hide.

SeanK1

Posted 277 days ago
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Alright Mr Andile Lungisa, your very PUBLIC comment " The white males, they need to be attended [to]." is both inflammatory and a diresct racist threat. I am now going to lay criminal charges against you at my local police station. You and your ilk have to realise you cannot threaten people with impunity in the country.