'Covert fight against info bill'
State Security Minister Siyabonga Cwele has claimed that "foreign spies" are paying dozens of civil society groups to oppose the ANC's new secrecy law.
"You won't find foreign spies openly marching in the streets of Cape Town, complaining that we are removing their easy access to our sensitive information, but they will fund their local proxies to defend their illegality," Cwele said during a heated debate of the Protection of State Information Bill in parliament yesterday.
But DA MP Dene Smuts told Cwele his comment "speaks of a paranoic approach. It is absurd".
She warned that corrupt intelligence services were more of a threat to the state than foreign spies.
IFP MP Mario Oriani-Ambrosini slammed the new law for insisting that anyone who comes across a classified document must return it to the authorities or face time in prison.
The law "imposes a string of obligations on members of the public to help the government keep the secrets for whatever reason it has failed to keep", he said.
Oriani-Ambrosini also argued it was unfair for MPs, journalists and members of the public to go to jail for speaking about a secret document leaked to them even if they had nothing to do with it being leaked.
A public-domain defence, which the ANC has refused to include, was common in the US, Canada and other countries, he said. This defence says that, once a secret has been leaked, it cannot be "unleaked" because it is already in the public domain.
But ANC MP Ben Fihla said a previous Constitutional Court judgment had found that classified documents that have been leaked into the public domain do not lose their classified status just because everybody knows about them.
Fihla admitted that the bill would affect media sources, who would be "out in the cold" once the bill was enacted.
African Christian Democratic Party MP Steve Swart said the bill must have a public-interest defence to protect members of the public who receive leaked documents and want to pass them on in order to expose corruption.
"No compelling argument was presented for not including a public-interest defence," he said.
DA MP David Maynier said "the question is not whether journalists will go to jail, but which journalist will go to jail first".
"The ANC wants to cover up unlawful acts, cover up inefficiency and cover up information that may cause embarrassment," he said.
MPs were to have voted on the bill in September but it was put on ice after it reportedly failed to get unanimous support from the ANC national executive committee.
ANC chief whip Mathole Motshekga promised then to hold public consultations, but it is unclear if these ever took place, because he never announced the details.
The IFP has since tabled 123 amendments to the bill, which must now be discussed by a parliamentary committee before a vote can take place.
Cosatu spokesman Patrick Craven said if the bill was passed in its current form, the union federation would challenge it in the Constitutional Court.
Craven called for the bill to be sent back to the South African Law Reform Commission to be rewritten.
Cosatu was concerned that the bill had been brought back to parliament without a single public meeting in the provinces as promised by the ANC, Craven said.
It was dangerous that Cwele could give "just about any organ of state or national keypoint (including private institutions)" the right to classify information.
The bill could also undermine the right to access information available through the Labour Relations Act, Craven said.





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Posted 579 days agoThe ANC is so detached from reality it beggars belief.
nkosipeter
Posted 579 days agoBye bye Freedom Charter.
Scribbles
Posted 579 days agoBeelzebub
Posted 579 days agoMy word, so now we are involved in a cold war with some unknown foreign foe.
Hasn't this man's wife been convicted of drug dealing? Has he been schnaafing too many lines?
I'm serious, paranoia and delusions are symptoms of heavy drug abuse.
ThePurplePimp
Posted 578 days agoMisterWendal
Posted 578 days agoDoesn't know about his wife's illegal activities, but clued up on foreign spies!
All South Africans must unite in their opposition to this planned ramming through of the ANC's Cover-up Bill!
BobbyBob
Posted 578 days agoState security minister..... frightning.....
Rightway
Posted 578 days agoOzgood
Posted 578 days agoHis paranoia knows no bounds. We may now be on the slippery slopes to the end of democracy.
We are going downhill not so slowly to become another African dictatorship
BobbyBob
Posted 578 days agodestroyer
Posted 578 days agoNo foreign "spies" want to steal the ANC recipes for f*cking up a once great country!!!!
Go snort some of your wife's excess coke!!
BokFan
Posted 578 days agoomni
Posted 578 days agoJoeCitizen
Posted 578 days agoHow long did it take the ANC to create this fantasy world that they live in?
Promethius
Posted 578 days agoThis lumbering oaf must please provide the public with proof of his amazing claim.
Or shut the $%^#^%&%^$ up.
We're waiting.
bis_k'hallawaya
Posted 578 days agoMisterWendal
Posted 578 days agoThey changed the name from the National Intelligence Agency to State Security (probably liked the acronym BOSS - Bureau of State Security!).
Then they militarised the police - making them a police force instead of police service.
We now reap the rewards of the folly of these low-level ANCYL-type political decision-makers - what with ex-spouses of criminals running the spook-show, and police force commissioners invoved in shady dealings!
UDFSupporter
Posted 578 days agoBobbyBob
Posted 578 days agoSo, who is pushing this?
RogueTrooper
This bill is merely another cog in the machine of the ANC dream of a totalitarian state...they love the notion of Stalinism or the control that Castro had...hell they backed Gaddafi until the end and the ANCYL still talk about him as a hero.
The ANC are the rot that has beset this beautiful country...they are a parasite
BarryPotgieter
Posted 578 days agoNo CRIME committed by a Government Official can or is allowed to become a State SECRET.And if a Minister or whoever declares a crime a state secret,such a person is guilty of the crime of withholding evidence of said crime and will be charged in a court of law.
NO Info Bill has any jurisdiction over our justice system. a Genuine State Secret will immediately be identified and treated as such.
So why the Hoola Baloo over the info bill as the bill has no jurisdiction over crime.
a State secret is clearly defined and so is crime clearly defined. No Hope in Hell for the info bill to undermine the reporting of a crime,to many Politicians are going to be criminally charged for withholding any info on a crime committed or to be committed.
UDFSupporter
Posted 578 days ago