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Sat May 26 13:55:21 SAST 2012

'Zuma purging opponents'

AMUKELANI CHAUKE | 07 December, 2011 00:21
Gauteng Premier Nomvula Mokonyane. File photo.
Image by: ALON SKUY

The Zuma cabinet's decision to place Limpopo's provincial government under national administration has ignited a political war, with senior ANC leaders being accused of purging their political opponents.

On Monday, the cabinet announced that it would take over the running of five departments in Limpopo following what it called a "cash crisis" the provincial government found itself in two weeks ago.

The cabinet will also intervene in the Free State and Gauteng in respect of financial management and supply chain irregularities.

The ANC Youth League in Limpopo lambasted senior ANC leaders for using the Treasury to "purge" its leaders in the provincial government.

The league said the timing of the move was aimed at "reducing the confidence of ANC members in the current leadership" ahead of the party's provincial conference next week.

But trade union federation Cosatu and the SA Communist Party welcomed the decision.

Cosatu said the central government's support in Limpopo should be linked to "arrests and the dismissal of the culprits behind the mess". The union federation said it had in the past preferred charges of tender fraud and maladministration implicating senior ANC and ANC Youth League leaders. It called for Premier Cassel Mathale to resign.

SACP Limpopo provincial secretary Gilbert Kganyago said the ANC Youth League's attack on the cabinet's decision was "disingenuous" and invalid because the president had taken similar decisions to deal with maladministration, including the recent cabinet reshuffle.

The ANC Youth League in the province said the cabinet's decision was a "knee-jerk reaction" by leaders who were afraid of the possibility of a change of leadership at the party's elective conference in Mangaung in December next year.

In Gauteng, Premier Nomvula Mokonyane welcomed the cabinet's intervention, which will lead to the Treasury and the Department of Health assisting in the financial management of Gauteng's health department.

She said she was relieved that the national government would help her administration deal with an "embarrassing" situation.

But Cosatu has called for heads to roll in Gauteng following what it called the total collapse of health services in the province.

Cosatu said those responsible for the collapse should be brought to book.

Cosatu spokesman Patrick Craven said health MEC Ntombi Mekgwe had inherited the mess from the previous MEC, Brian Hlongwa.

The Free State government also welcomed the cabinet's decision to intervene in its affairs.

Opposition parties have blamed the ANC's cadre deployment for the economic crises in the provinces.

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BornintheRSA

Posted 171 days ago
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Passing the blame. Not understanding accountability. Incompetent. Denial. The premier is just another ANC cadre. Ubuntu is long dead.
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Fedupguy

Posted 171 days ago
....and to add: most of them are "thick as a brick!"

Beelzebub

Posted 171 days ago
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Is the Limpopo province a joke? Yes.
Is corruption & incompetence in the ANC widespread? Yes.
Has the ANC in the past ever selectively chosen when to act and when not to act against corruption & incompetence? Yup, they have.
So you have to wonder, though I won't be shedding any tears for those corrupt ANCYL mampara's in Limpopo. At least some of the filth will get punished, better some than none.
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Fedupguy

Posted 170 days ago
Yesterday I asked on whether this "lady" depicted in the photgraph was only bark? Or would she also have a bite?!?
Today's picture, is simply great!
As the saying goes: one picture,.. speaks more that an thousand words!"
Well -I have been 'looking up' to this pictue the whole day - it really speakes more than a thousand words! -
Hark Hark Hark, she barks - but does she bite?
I doubt it! -
The picture truly shows on how a minister (MANAGER) Never should behave - Lost all control, pumping blood in her arteries on her neck, that facial expression is just too horrific to depict a "true" professional ANAGER, That is what these appinted Ministinres (Managers?) ought to be.
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I saw a lot of wildlife documentaries, especially I love the ones on Africa, and when comparing this 'facial' expression of this woman - I may have seen this type of expression many times - even when visitng a Game Reserve, when one encounters a pack/family of certain primates -
There is no difference!
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Lastly - I love this picture so much, that I have put it as a screen save on my computer -Just to remind me never to get as low as she does - being a MANAGER.
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Any Psychologist out there who might want to add some comments?

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Best regards
Your Fedupguy
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Mnbvcxz0

Posted 170 days ago
It's not very difficult to add words to that face. Certainly she is not pouring out her love to some fortunate recepient. She is angry! and I doubt that the anger has anything to do with the embarrassment she thinks her province is in. Probably she is fuming because someone took her parking spot, or someone forgot to say 'Majesty your bath is ready'.

mcritic

Posted 171 days ago
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Limpopo and Free State has had major problems for years. There was strong competition between the Eastern Cape, Free State and Limpopo as to which Province could be the most corrupt, ineffective and maladministered. With ANCYL around - aqnd with their active support - Limpopo took the lead in a race with short head wins.

Obviously the new move could cut out some of the graft of the ANCYL - and they would have to find new sources of income. Obviously the Goblin of Zimbabwe - the man with the big pain in the backside - could provide some revenue from his wife's diamond cutting business in Hong Kong to help out - but it would still be better to loot locally.

I am not surprised by the ANCYL reaction - they know nothing of efficient administration - there idea of it is how much can we loot and still deliver a small measure of services. After all a road or bridge only have to last three months before it is washed away by the first rains.
I think the fear is that investigators would identify more accurately how much ANCYL looted and Malema may yet join his black out friend - who believes that the tooth fairy drove the car that killed the children in Protea - in prison.

Mike321

Posted 171 days ago
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These people never cease to amaze me. While the ship sinks, they argue about the colour of the bung that should be used to stop the leak.

ooooooooo

Posted 171 days ago
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They say when you live in a glass house you should not throw stones. The Limpopo Provence started the stone throwing so they must expect people to throw stones back at them. Before they started throwing stones they should have made sure their houses was built with bricks.
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v_3

Posted 171 days ago
Baas Frik, their houses were built of bricks.
Only problem is, they were built by crony tendrepreneurs, which is why they are too flimsy.

the_original_MommaCyndi

Posted 171 days ago
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"Cosatu spokesman Patrick Craven said health MEC Ntombi Mekgwe had inherited the mess from the previous MEC, Brian Hlongwa"

... and her method of 'fixing' that mess was to disappear overseas on extended trips?
It is irrelevant which ANC MEC make the mess, what is relevant is that they just keep putting equally incompetent tsotsis into the same position every time.

For crying in a bucket! How does the richest province in the most affluent country on the continent manage to dig itself into such a financial hole? That takes a huge amount of talent and a barn load of thievery to accomplish

BokFan

Posted 171 days ago
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Those ( like me) welcoming the purge should be careful.

Absolutely nothing Zuma has done ever worked out for the benefit of the nation.
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the_original_MommaCyndi

Posted 171 days ago
Hi Bokkie :)

I am also wondering at the timing and implications.
It is pretty much guaranteed that it is political manoeuvring but it is long overdue.
The release of the oil for food scandal documents at the same time is also making me wonder. Is that report being released now so that it is buried in the media under this (as well as Jackie and the Podgy Purple Pedi) or is it a true attempt to de-fang Tokyo and Motlanthe?

Two things for certain, ANC politics are never boring and they are never what they seem on the surface

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BokFan

Posted 171 days ago
Hi MC

Theres no getting away from it Jake Zak is on the warpath. Unfortunately his aim is lousy and he doesn't care about collateral damage.


Grins on your Catavar

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the_original_MommaCyndi

Posted 171 days ago
Methinks Zoomie is so desperate that he is just shooting in all directions. If he isn't careful he is going to shoot himself in the process.

:) you are an animax fan?

samsam

Posted 171 days ago
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ANCYL must be mad what politics when the provincial account has dried up instead of blaming the premier and his MECs for poor financial mngt
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ooooooooo

Posted 170 days ago
Why don't you get an education then maybe your comments will make sense. Twit.
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Mnbvcxz0

Posted 170 days ago
Oom Frik is jy nog hier?

Rightway

Posted 171 days ago
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She said she was relieved that the national government would help her administration deal with an "embarrassing" situation


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Embarrassing situation is what the ANC excell in. The entire ANC administration has failed. They should all be purged. A fish rots from the head. From Zuma783 to Malema.
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danny.archer1

Posted 171 days ago
"Then you ask yourself this question what would you see happening if Hellen Zille can take over the country , you failed to analyse that, all the neighbouring and African countries will pull out,"

You say that like it'd be a bad thing.
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RedCoat

Posted 171 days ago
Samsam.

I agree with most of your statements, but know that what you say can be taken from any side of the colour line.
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Port-Elizabeth-Rulez

Posted 171 days ago
Samsam - you need to go back to school. South Africa does not need other African countries.

White people are entitled to vote for who they feel can do a good job. That is not for you or any black person to decide.

Mnbvcxz0

Posted 171 days ago
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Samsam, why do you have to tell the truth at such an inconvinient time?

I984

Posted 171 days ago
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It is highly unlikely that the mess resulting from all this corruption and incompetence is not real.

It is very hard however not to notice what's been going on lately and to object to article's headline.

It is also quite likely that the situation with the ANC and all their internal conflicts, problems and dilemmas has progressed and reached a stage where whatever they do or do not do will backfire one way or another. On the ANC itself, or if we are so unfortunate - on the country as a whole.

samsam

Posted 171 days ago
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BokFan
Posted 12 minutes ago


I think my analyses is fairly,open, and transparent does nt favour any one, it rest with you what you pick or nt.

I wanted you to touch on businees perspective , instead you dwell much politically
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ooooooooo

Posted 170 days ago
You sound intoxicated. Twit

OTTOOTTO

Posted 171 days ago
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Seems like there is logic to the madness. President is exercising what is logically the correct thing to do. These Provinces and departments (there are many more including local municipalities) are in indeed in serious financial trouble and they need to be rescued for the sake of service delivery which might affect citizens. What these incompetent officials seem to be saying is 'treasury give us more money in a form of a blank cheque and go away'. Wrong, wrong, wrong. It doesn't work that way and all of them know the rules. You cannot be given additional funding without accountability. For there mere fact that they have all overspent their normal budgets _ requires a closer look and the law does not allow them to self diagnose. In the majority of these over-expenditure cases - say 70% is due to maladministration. The Departments and officials that are asking for bail-outs are the same departments / officials that have negative reports, no financial accountability, disclaimers, etc. Surely, they cannot expect Treasury to roll-over backwards and give them blank cheques to continue their embezzling mischief. So, they are now caught in the trap like Selebi a few days ago. Very very ill and corrupt to go to jail. So Treasury is sending the guards/forensic auditors with the medication as requested. It will give forensic auditors a chance to investigate the over-expenditures whilst these embezzlers are chained in their sin-posts. Then hell will break loose after the forensic auditors have all the evidence. To smudge all this as some political ploy walla walla is a clear indication that these officials and their political handlers have no understanding of how to separate the affairs of the state and the shenanigans in the ANC. It's just plain juvenile stupidity of the worst kind. Off course Zuma may have other motives which like any astute politician will deal the cards accordingly. Only he knows. He gave us no reason when he appointed them except he had misguided trust that they could do the work and must duly remove them when he thinks they are crossing the line by embezzling public funds instead of doing their knitting whatever that is. They must be fired after the forensic audits have been completed and the law must take over, especially now that there is a more vicious, wiry wily take-no prisoners bull terrier in the President's corruption guard-yard. Very nice to see corrupt ANC chickens fly!

Mnbvcxz0

Posted 171 days ago
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It is embarrassing for the ANC to tell the truth that all 8 ANC provinces are in one crisis or another. In Mpumalanga comrades are killing each other. The so called maladministration (I call it corruption) affects the poor people first, like the toll roads. The stupidity of the ANC will lead us all to insanity as we spend endless hours trying to think why a government of poor people behave like a bunch of aristocrats. In Limpopo, the YL are protesting the timing of the interventions; should national government stand aside for another 18 months for the looting to continue just because Mangaung is nearby?. These Limpopo people, including Julius, think Mangaung 2012 is the genie that will grant all their corrupt wishes. Polokwane 2007 set a very wrong precedence. The YL’s oil field is about to dry out.

Shongweni

Posted 171 days ago
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"In Gauteng, Premier Nomvula Mokonyane welcomed the cabinet's intervention.... She said she was relieved that the national government would help her administration deal with an "embarrassing" situation."

In any other democracy the Premier would have the good grace to take responsibility for the mess and resign!

Not a COMRADE, no way's!

They believe that holding high office is their god-given right, no matter how inefficient or useless they are at sorting out the mess. Their shameless attitude is, "This position, fat salary and luxury 4X4 is my birthright! But do not dare to expect me to ACTUALLY TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for the job, that is asking too much!"
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samsam

Posted 171 days ago
kwakwakwa what more can you expect from Malemas gangsters , fortunately Nomvula is a professional
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OTTOOTTO

Posted 171 days ago
Quite glad that the 'cadre entitlement' mindset is drifting towards the cliff with all those who think alike. The President has done two cabinet re-shuffles an improvement from the last President. I cant understand why any official and especially political office bearers cant see the writing on the wall and begin resign voluntarily (if they have been caught-out or cant perform) instead of forcing the hand of the President and daring the the law enforcement processes. May be they cant read the writing on the wall at all or they are just daring! I mean this Joemat Pieterson lady minister knows she has been caught with her hand in the cookie jar with this fisheries patrol thingie but she still continues as if nothing has happened, daringly petulant or stupidly so. Most Provincial premiers are really just drooling in their sleep until they get a message that the President is coming or election are coming, that's the only time citizens see them.
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ooooooooo

Posted 170 days ago
Kwakwakwakwa your mother is a duck and your father a puff adder. Kwakwakwakwa.Twit

Mnbvcxz0

Posted 171 days ago
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Gone are those days when the province's were led by premiers of will,wit, and intelligence. Sexwale,Mbhazima, Phosa, Lekota et al. Today the primier's perfomance is like that of Bafana Bafana; we are not sure exactly what they are doing. They are there, more money is pumped their way but we don't know who they are and what they are supposed to be doing.
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OTTOOTTO

Posted 171 days ago
"Sexwale,Mbhazima, Phosa, Lekota et al..."

I would be circumspect with performance accolades to these fellow South Africans, rather giving them a red-bull prescription.

Port-Elizabeth-Rulez

Posted 171 days ago
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The ANCYL must start their own political party and see how long they last.

Mnbvcxz0

Posted 171 days ago
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Samsam, stop defending the indefensible, the ANC are a bunch of arrogant self-serving aristocrats. They don't give a penny whether you or anyone else tries so hard to shed a light of credibility on a liberation movement that has died. The true ANC died the day Mandela made unreasonable concessions on the CODESA table. He and his colleagues sold South Africa out; they agreed to keep their mouths shut and hands tied as the separated development continues to play itself out; a decade and a half post ‘liberation’. The ANC is not a power unto itself; it’s ruled like all of us. Otherwise it would have disturbed the legacy of apartheid or gave it a good fight of its life. But no; the flag colours changed, the 4 provinces were made into 9, Voortrekker Straat became Solomon Mahlangu Street but the true ownership of SA has not been challenged. The ANC are not the big shareholders of SA incorporated, they are the security guard at the gate asking to see your ID as you enter into the SA Building.
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BokFan

Posted 171 days ago
Certainly this is one of the most entertaining and well written bits of malarkey I have come across in a while.

Depicting the anc as the watchman at the door is prabably accurate as far as their abilities are concerned but unfortunately its not in any way appropriate to the situation.

To me they are more like guys hijacking a liquour truck , tucking into the stock and then racing full steam into a busy intersection.

But the truth is that black south africans have their hands on trillions of assets. Every state employe (deployee) has a pension benefits etc. Then think of paratstatals. In the private sector looking at ee figures you can see that from middle management down the transformation is massive.

The facts are that even that disproportionate share of the national purse going to support black aspirations is so far too little its never going to satisfy all.

Only an economy growing at 6-8% a year for a decade or longer will make a difference. Unfortunately Thabo Mbeki's confused protosocialist reign of non-development prevented that. When the world economy was booming we crept along at 3% or less.

Its not whites doing the holding back of blacks anymore. Now its the failure to grasp the development nettle that is haunting us.

Mnbvcxz0

Posted 171 days ago
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Your imagery of the situation is much more accurate, I have to concede. Yes Blacks have their hands on trillions of assets; Eskom, Govt Taxes, IDC, Transnet, Portnet, etc and this reinforces my point exactly. How can a government that has so much in assets fail to use them to accelerate our economic growth?I am not concerned much about Agricultural land because you see agriculture only contributes less than 10% of the GDP. So my take on this one is that they have made a pact with the Devil or a Son of such a Deity, to keep ordinary South Africans in hunger, illiteracy, self sabotage and in environments that trigger criminal tendencies and anger.
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danny.archer1

Posted 171 days ago
Are you implying that CODESA was the pact and the white man is the Devil?
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BokFan

Posted 171 days ago

Mnbvcxz0

I am afraid your are right about the pact and I think the Devil's offspring you are referring to is MAMMON.

Rightway

Posted 171 days ago
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MnbvcxzO

I do not think it is as dramatic as you put it" making a pact with the devil. But you are right it seems as if they have.

I think is much more mundane. Selfish naive human nature that is untrained in ethics and morals and inexperienced it what makes the world go around. A free for all. Where those; with authority give jobs for incompetent pals and family, surround themselves with intellectually challenged yes man. Kind of like placing the Jackal in charge of the Chickens. Then wondering why, true to nature, the Jackal starts eat some of them.

Are there any experienced, competent, honest, and trustworthy people with integrity within the ANC administration? If there are it is as if there are not. They are in the minority.
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onlythetruthever

Posted 170 days ago
Ag. I don't know anymore.

All I do know is that it only takes one rotten potato to wreck a whole bag of 5KG potatoes....

Consider this: Jackie Selebe was that rotten potato in the bag aka ANC. It has escalated and multiplied beyond control.

Selebe should actually hang. Not be put in prison.

He was the HEAD of SAPS. And it was his duty to show integrity with every step and deal and decision he made. Instead he chose to show the way for his subordinates by stealing...

He started the rot. And nobody can stop it now. It's too late.