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Sat May 26 14:19:36 SAST 2012

Vavi warns ANC

SIPHO MASONDO | 08 February, 2012 00:23
Cosatu boss Zwelinzima Vavi Picture: ELIZABETH SEJAKE

Cosatu boss Zwelinzima Vavi yesterday slammed the ANC, saying it could no longer depend on struggle heroes to win its elections.

In a hard-hitting speech only two days before President Jacob Zuma gives his state of the nation address, Vavi said the honeymoon was over.

Speaking at a Cosatu Gauteng shop stewards' council meeting in Soweto, Vavi told the ANC-led government to focus on delivering on its five priority areas: decent jobs, quality education, affordable healthcare, fighting crime and corruption, and rural development.

"We have gone to the people and promised them five priorities.

"In 2014 we can't go to them waving flags and say: 'Remember Chris Hani, Albert Luthuli and Joe Slovo.'

"They will say, 'What else? ... Go away, you are liars. Don't tell us about Luthuli and Mandela, tell us about yourself. Why should we support you?'"

Vavi said that in 2014 voters would no longer be patient but would want results.

He said: "2014 will not be an ordinary election. We will be celebrating 20 years of democracy."

Before Zimbabwe was hit by its political crisis, said Vavi, the country had done better than South Africa because it had improved education and health services.

But South Africa was going the other way, said Vavi, adding that Zimbabwe was hurt by allowing Mugabe to be president for more than 20 years.

He criticised the ANC for its "self-destructing" tendencies.

"The alliance is self-destructing, I've never seen this rate of self-destructing.

"We are on the fast lane to self-destruction. Let's fix our house before it collapses on our heads."

Vavi blamed those who "think they have divine authority to eat on behalf of the masses. The tendency of tenderpreneurs should be exposed and isolated".

Reiterating his call for a March 7 nationwide strike, Vavi said his union federation and all its affiliates would voice their frustration at the government's refusal to ban labour brokers.

"We will strike to demand the banning of labour brokers. If we don't fight this battle now, in no time all of us will be employed by labour brokers."

Instead of banning labour brokers, Vavi said, the government had proposed:

Forbidding labour brokers from employing people for more than six months;

After six months, the employee shall be deemed to be permanently employed;

Equal pay for all employees doing the same job, whether permanently employed or assigned by a under labour broker; and

Labour brokers and employers will be jointly cited in court or in arbitration.

Cosatu Gauteng secretary Dumisani Dakile, said: "We must make sure that, on March 7, there are no clinics operating. Hospitals must come to a standstill. We must make sure that there isn't a single mayor who is made tea by his worker."

Cosatu's main affiliates include the National Union of Mineworkers, SA Municipal Workers' Union, National Union of Metalworkers of SA and the SA Transport and Allied Workers' Union.

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l984

Posted 108 days ago
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I still fail to understand how can someone strike against the ruling coalition's government - and at the same time be part of that same ruling coalition.

"Vavi said the honeymoon was over.
We have gone to the people and promised them five priorities: decent jobs, quality education, affordable healthcare, fighting crime and corruption, and rural development.
"In 2014 we can't go to them waving flags and say: 'Remember Chris Hani, Albert Luthuli and Joe Slovo."

So what are you going to DO then?

Are you going to promise them to nationalise the banks, private hospitals and schools? Or some land, farm and mine grabs? Or the cheese in someone else's fridge?
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brilliantm

Posted 108 days ago
1. Cosatu also has a responsibility to act as a watchdog, on how the affairs of the country are being handled. This strike is one of the methods of preventing the Alliance's house from "collapsing on their heads".

2. You sound very frightnened by the mention of the word "nationalisaztion". South Africa will never see true democracy, freedom and reconciliation until formal debates on this issue have been completed and a way forward established. We cannot live in denial forever, APARTHEID ruined a lot of things and its ripple effect will be felt untilthe day we as South Africans can have such discussions. The past is still very much alive
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l984

Posted 108 days ago
By all means please do take your time and continue your debates and discussions about inventing the hot water and the wheel, and riding the wave of the guilt-tripping and blaming this and that and mostly the white man - the time and people's patience are limitless, the sky is the limit to the corruption, the state coffers are bottomless and the amount of damage the investors confidence, state infrastructures, parastatals and services can take - unlimited.
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brilliantm

Posted 108 days ago
Discussions and debates is exactly what we South Africans who want to see this country going forward will do, both Black and Whites. We are where we are because of discussions. By all means, you have a consitutional right not to participate.

As far as the so called "fear" of losing investors goes, that card is played out. If South Africans operated on fear, we wouldn't have cut the head of the ugly APARTHEID MONSTER, we would not have hosted and won the Rugby World Cup, we would have not have SUCCESFULLY hosted the 2010 FIFA World Cup just to mntion but a few. As long as South Africa has minerals, there will always be investors. And personally I would like to see South Africans investing in their own economy.

Does it really make sense to you thata guy works for R3000 a month digging gold an working 18 hours a day, while some tea-galling pansy in England profits R20 billion??? HHe??
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l984

Posted 108 days ago
"Does it really make sense to you thata guy works for R3000 a month digging gold an working 18 hours a day, while some tea-galling pansy in England profits R20 billion??? HHe??"

Hmmm... at least he got paid - unlike the Aurora miners.... oh wait...

So I see where you are going with this, Vavi should take heed - instead of "Chris Hani, Albert Luthuli and Joe Slovo" he should talk to his disgruntled disillusioned voters about the Soccer World Cup and advise them to eat the minerals lying beneath their feet. LOL!
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buddi

Posted 108 days ago
@brilliantm
Please explain how nationalisation will help the poor and heal the evils of apartheid?
1. Nationalisation of any institution will enrich a few, but not the masses. The money will not be used for upliftment of the poor, it will line the pockets of a few select anc cadres.
2. Any institution that is nationalised will be mismanaged by the very same type of people that are running the SABC, ESCOM, SAA, etc.
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brilliantm

Posted 108 days ago
"At least he got paid............." Is that your reasoning?? Well obviously we cannot engage in a meaningful discussion if that is your mentality. And as far as the Aurora issue is concerned, please learn to separate issues. That is also wrong on so many levels, but it cannot be likened to the issue of inevstores sucking AFRICA dry, while it's children are dying of hunger
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brilliantm

Posted 108 days ago
@ buddi

The whole point of having discussions will be to ANSWER the questions that you have just raised. And to design the sytems and processes for implementing a system that will be suiteable for South Afircans and investors alike. Do u get it?? When the gorvement speaks of natioanlisation ,they don't mean they gonna BURST INTO MINES and take over. Just like there were discussions over how to CURB APARTHEID, there will be discussions about nationalisation. I have confidence in my country, South Africa is packed full of AMAZING intellectuals who want this country to go forward. We have come a long way, we can't stop now. Viva
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l984

Posted 108 days ago
@ brilliantm, I was yanking your chain and am done now.
Seriously - there is only one way leading to inventing the wheel:

1. Creating stable and safe social environment for the children to be born and raised in.
2. Providing free and accessible basic education and healthcare.
3. Providing decent accessible tertiary education options or skill development for those not willing/able to study further
4. Creating business and job-creating friendly environment - especially for small/medium businesses, and encouraging entrepreneurship and investments
5. CRIME CRIME CRIME - if crime could be kept under control during SCW - why not NOW???
6. Law and order applies for everyone - including comrades and taxi-drivers.

7. Lastly - leaning towards communist doctrine and idiocy would spell the end of SA.

Have a nice day!

P.S. 8. Beware the chinese!
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Gus

Posted 108 days ago
@Brilliantm
You have a mentality of the typical ANC cadre.... Talk, talk, talk, debate, talk...but you never DO anything. The reason the "foreigners" you hate so much are so advanced is because they DO things, take risks, invest where nobody else would etc etc. Here's a suggestion...get your ANC's investment arm, and the unions to invest their own money in local industry where the masses productivity is pathetic and investment returns are very hard to come by. Talk is cheap buddy! ...and the talkers even cheaper!
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RedNed

Posted 107 days ago
Nicw one, Gus
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brilliantm

Posted 107 days ago
@ 1984, no sweat mate.

Now all the points you raised are very important ,and if the people in parliament sat and discussed them they would find solutins.

Ya neh, the Chinese are a topic or another day
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brilliantm

Posted 107 days ago
@ Gus

I don't know which part of Venterorp you are from, but ANC supporters have an equal right to voice their opinions in every other part of South Africa. Secondly, only idiots just get up and do something without discussions, debates and conversations which bear PLANS. PLANS WHICH BE AR IMPLEMENTATION. IMPLEMENTATION which bears DELIVERY.

South Africa is not one BIG FARM sonny, no one is forced to do anything here. You have a constitutional right not to engage in any discussion. But ANC, DA, IFP, UDM etc.... supporters who love this country will engage in talks and we shall all move forward as a PEOPLE.

You are welcome though, but don't bring your AWB flag and uniform.

PPP

Posted 108 days ago
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Don't worry Vavi the ANC will use the Race card and manipulate the poor by giving them food and clothes at the stadiums - typical ANC their problems atr caused by whites.

bis-k'hallawaya

Posted 108 days ago
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Vavi and COSATU like Malema are performing as demagogues: they point out the obvious. They make ridiculous promises. They thrash and cause chaos whenever is convenient, but they will not clean their own house.....

......Their silence about Godongwana stealing from pension funds, about the unpaid miners from Aurora, about the education mess caused by SADTU, and others, is really deafening..........
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thato.mogane

Posted 107 days ago
Cheers to this comment, what happened to the corruption we heard about in the Unions, how are they dealing with that, why don't they say anything!!! Well PLAYED and you shall hear nothing about it!! TYPICAL!! And how come , the corruptionwatch.com website they launched on the news is still not operational. Why announce something when its not ready. clearly corruption prevention is not a priority to them. UNIONS are a joke actually u know that, and so are their members, but the concept is gr8!! The practice is rubbish!!

m1si2zi3nzo4

Posted 108 days ago
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COSATU has an unfair advantage over the labour brokers on their bone of contention. Both trade in labour, but COSATU is also part of the law-making alliance. In the latter case it also competes with producers for labour value, which workers pay in the form of tax.

So it uses a double edge sword to chop the head of the struggling labour. The one side takes subscription fee, and the other makes the tax laws that fleece the same labour.

COSATU would be foolish if it were to even consider leaving the alliance.
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brilliantm

Posted 108 days ago
That is the harsh reality my friend. The lives of the people that VAvi "fights" for are still going down the drain. What is his stance on THE FARM WORKERS? Aurora??

buddi

Posted 108 days ago
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COSATU - how about stopping the threats, and act! Not by having disrupting strikes, but if you are so against the ruling party, and some of your talk makes sense, get out of the coalition. That way more people may take you seriously.
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l984

Posted 108 days ago
I agree, it is sane ACTIONS that count now and not WORDS anymore, double-speak and fence-sitting cannot last forever, and you cannot repair and reverse the effects of destruction by causing even more chaos and destruction.
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ianm.anning

Posted 108 days ago
Yes!!
Why doesn't COSATU stop whingeing and disrupting the economy and do something constructive like providing adult education both basic (reading and writing) and skills level. At least this will enable some members to get employment or start their own businesses.

OTTOOTTO

Posted 108 days ago
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Rantings of the delusional mind. I simply cant see the point of Vavi's statement except to expose how frustrated he is. Sure thing the e-tolling is blatant highway robbery and it must be stopped by Gauteng vehicle owners by not registering and not buying e-tags. The march should be focused on just that, as this is the only way the system can be stopped. This type of protest is not new and was mooted by the AA and now Vavi is hijacking it. The difference was that the AA could not publicly canvass people to act against the law and i suppose they also fear retribution as they do not political clout that Vavi has. But much the same this campaign against e-tolling is an initiative by the AA and other automobile interest groups.

Labour brokers are like the media, only fighting to keep their fat profits but their demise is but certain. They do not employ anyone but profit on the ignorance and apathy of job seekers and greedy employers. One can imagine a newly qualified professional with a potential to earn R350000.00 per annum only taking home R175000.00, the rest going to a grizzly fat cat sitting in a fancy office in a shiny suit just because they have introduced the candidate to the employer who was eventually going fill the position in any case without the broker. Many labour brokers are syndicates with employers knowingly or colluding with human resource managers to steal from the company. The human resource managers and administrators get kick backs from labour brokers. This is greed, corruption, maladministration , exploitation or slavery in its highest form of sophistication.
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Horus

Posted 108 days ago
I fully agree with you on the issue of HR getting kickbacks for using certain recruitment/labour agencies. The company websites advertising jobs are just a front and an illusion of what is really happening behind the scenes. Applying online and in response to newspaper ads is useless because HR never respond; unless of course a recruitment agency holds you by the hand and knocks on the HR door and whispers an unintelligible password and then the doors flung open. I used to think corruption is a government phenomenon but you’d be surprised how company resources are wasted in useless activities like paying labour brokers.

The candidate, I pity him or her, has to live in fear for the duration of the contract; he has to sit on the edge of his seat because out of the blue he might be called to the office and reprimanded for something he did not do and shown the door. I have been there!. I was working for Deloitte and out of the blue sky the Director called me to say the project does not need me anymore and I should pack my things and go! I asked the reasons and I noticed that they had just hired a cheaper Zimbabwean dude.

I protested to the director because personally promised that this will be a 6 months project and I requested him to at least keep me (even without a pay) until I find something since companies don’t hire you when you are unemployed and he showed me door and said he wants to hear none of my stories. How sad! Today I am battling finding a job despite being a Chartered Accountant. I am thinking if I should have done engineering perhaps? Now I can’t even encourage any school kid to be an accountant, it’s a crazy place out there. I have been hearing a lot about skills shortage etc but now I believe that someone is not telling the full truth.
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OTTOOTTO

Posted 108 days ago
@Horus. your situation makes my blood boil with fury and cannot figure out why our government has let such greed, corruption and exploitation prevail unchecked. This is the fight Vavi should fight to the bitter end, with no respite until labour brokers are outlawed. You will be surprised how many interviews and employment offers you will get the following the day.

SuiGeneris

Posted 108 days ago
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''''''''''''Vavi told the ANC-led government to focus on delivering on its five priority areas: decent jobs, quality education, affordable healthcare, fighting crime and corruption, and rural development.''''''''''''''

Up to now the anc failed miserably in all these areas and will, without a shadow of doubt, continue to do so in the future.

You see, past history of their performance will always determine their future performance.....

Because you, the uninformed anc voters, are the ones giving them the mandate to absolutely f...all about it !!!!!!!!!!

Italian$body

Posted 108 days ago
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Cry my beloved SA, looted by the cabal of its minerals who come in the name of investment. While the EU enjoys the life they don't afford in the expense of our minerals hence the debt crisis.

Razzo

Posted 108 days ago
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1984 and those who do not like the Chines

Canada is in talks, as you guys try and push away Chinese investment because of your narrow-mindedness, with this very same China on a Billion Dollar Investment deal for their gas and mineral exploration. The EU and the World are busy asking China to assist in the EU bail-out programme...............but you lot find fault with the Chinese because of what the west has fed you........."I guess common sense is really not that common".

If the west wont invest in our mines once we introduce state intervention, its simple, we'll go to the chinese.......After all, whilst white South Africans are brainwashed into thinking China is the enemy, White Europeans, Americans and Canadians are seeking their help!!! "hahhhahaahhahhahahahahahhaa"
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l984

Posted 107 days ago

h t t p://w w w.timeslive.co.za/scitech/2012/02/08/beijing-gives-microbloggers-notice

"Microblog users in Beijing who do not register using their real names by mid-March will be banned from posting comments, a local official said Wednesday, as authorities tighten their grip on the web.

The government already censors the web in a system dubbed the “Great Firewall of China”."


Feel free to register and say Hello to your chinese comrades and brothers in arms.

Razzo

Posted 108 days ago
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To The Editor:

Can you kindly assist us by providing space for us to comment on other stories and not just ANC, COSATU, Corruption by the ANC, Investigation bungling by ANC deployees, Julias Malema, ANC Youth League, ANC Government Ministers mistakes, ANC this, ANC that.................oh and so the list goes on and on and on about the ANC and its alliance partners.

Can you please be balanced in what you allow us to discuss........many a time there were incidents, Like the Modimulle Murderer, The Facebook guy who posed with a "dead" black child, DA Comments and incidents and so on. Im not saying you dont open it up but I would like to see more of it as well. I understand that probably the ANC mis-haps, failures and shortcomings generate a lot of discussion and this is good for your ratings, but i sometimes feel that this might not necessarily serve nation building as we are always just "gaaning aan" and arguing.

There are other things we need to discuss!! Please put them on the agenda.

I thank You!!
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ianm.anning

Posted 108 days ago
Where is the secrecy act when we need it?!

m1si2zi3nzo4

Posted 108 days ago
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Vavi's COSATU is trapped in the same entitlement culture as its alliance partners. For them freedom is real only if they are the ones who are free to exploit the people. The right to freedom of association, and to choose trade, occupation or profession, belong only to them, and their members, and not to the heavily burdened unemployed and unconnected.

In fact this monopoly of every citizen can be traced in the history of these organisations. The "Black-on-Black" violence, the so-called internecine "liberation" struggle, the elimination of anything threatening their profits, you name it. The brokers are capitalists in need of the same labour value they exploit from the toilers. One thing is certain, the employer cannot hire labour that will not add labour value to his capital. It is simply shooting oneself in the foot.

Ironically, it is the labour brokers who add value to the unemployed by seeking work for them, and it is COSATU and the state that impose further burden to the already reduced wages of the labour. Tax and subscription fees come out of the already devalued labour wage, otherwise there would be no point in continuing with production.

Just what value does trade union membership and taxation add to the worker need to be calculated against the deficit the state creates, and the discouragement caused by trade unions in people starting businesses. It is a shooting in the foot for the state, because the tax it draws from the labour broker cannot be equal that it draws from its alliance partners.

Either way, it is the very citizen who gets short-changed.

the_original_MommaCyndi

Posted 108 days ago
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Vavi told the ANC-led government to focus on delivering on its five priority areas


mmmm does he mean those 5 priority areas that Cosatu spends all their time sabotaging?
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danny.archer1

Posted 107 days ago
Good one, Mom!!

zuluxtreme.richards-bay2

Posted 108 days ago
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I just wish that the people in this country came first, a govermnet for the people by the people... 1994 came and went and still we see very little change except for the massice amounts of money being 'misplaced'... I wish 'they' would do what they say instead of saying what 'they' are going to do... Most of these so called puppet politicians think they are in Hollywood, they think they are super-stars... Spot-light seekers, greedy, power hungry hedonisits... Man just get on with the job on turning this country around, instead of putting on a show!!!

m1si2zi3nzo4

Posted 108 days ago
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"delivering on its five priority areas". More importantly, have our needs been reduced to only five priority areas? What happens to those who have these areas, but have still to pay for the state to function or dyfunction?

Government has a constitutional obligation to provide the services as outlined in the constitution. Any reduction thereof to what the political elite regard as 'quick wins', is a gross dereliction of duty and unconstitutional. It also constitutes an extortion of tax from those who pay, to appease those who do not pay, but vote for tyranny. It is like applying for a job, and then selecting only those duties one can manage, after appointment. Your boss has got all the right to fire you.

MsLee

Posted 108 days ago
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Vavi has been making some very good points in recent months, and I understand that some see Cosatu as playing a watchdog role in the tripartite alliance. But as I see it, Cosatu can't oppose the very alliance of which it's a member from inside that alliance.

If it's so opposed to what's happening in government, why doesn't it break away and form a Labour Party? That would give the concept of democracy in SA some real muscle. This sniping at the ANC from within the safety of the alliance's ranks effectively neutralises the message.

MabhebezazEC

Posted 108 days ago
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Power to the working class!!!!!!!!!
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the_original_MommaCyndi

Posted 108 days ago
Should read "death and illiteracy to the working class'

Do you really think that this will affect those who can afford private schools and Mediclinic fees?

thato.mogane

Posted 108 days ago
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Talk is Cheap Cosatu, and Striking is just another waste of time. 3 places i believe SA should start to turn this country around. 1 - Run state owned enterprises better, spend money properly and take action against executive who fowl play. 2 - Government should spend money on making black owners in the following industries Insurance, Banking and Retail/FMCG. Then we own the 3 pillars of the economy and effectively we also own our MONEY!! 3 Final point the BLACK mentality - Black people we like to act like victims instead of just dealing with our problems, but until you admit you have a problem, you cannot deal with it. The problem is in our minds. Its a cancer of entitlement instead of progressive, confident, non-apologetic thinking/acting. With the power I could turn SA around in 2years and have jobs for all BLACK PEOPLE. 80%(Majority) can carry the 20%(Minority), but currently 30% (Minority + BEE's) is trying to carry 70% (Majority) this is impossible and is a ticking time BOMB.

danny.archer1

Posted 107 days ago
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I love the smell of the alliance falling apart in the morning...

RedNed

Posted 107 days ago
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Nice one, Gus

RedNed

Posted 107 days ago
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Cosatu Gauteng secretary Dumisani Dakile, said: "We must make sure that, on March 7, there are no clinics operating. Hospitals must come to a standstill...".

So there you are,folks. Wreck the Hospital service and the Clinics. Oh, by the way, is that ALL hospitals you are talking about Mr Dakile? But then, who gives a toss about the sick and dying? Cosatu Gauteng secretary Dumisani Dakile doesn't seem to according to this article. How about you, Cosatu boss Zwelinzima Vavi?
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bis-k'hallawaya

Posted 107 days ago
It is high time that investigative and nosy reporters find out what schools do the COSATU leaders attend to and the kind of medical service they enjoy, and make it public. So we will know why it is so easy for these busteds to dictate strike to essential and crucial services while they enjoy the goodies of the hated 'bourgeoisie'...........