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Wed May 22 12:24:01 SAST 2013

NYDA wants budget more than doubled

CAIPHUS KGOSANA | 30 May, 2012 00:24
National Youth Development Agency chairman Andile Lungisa has called on companies to empower the young Picture: PEGGY NKOMO

Just under R400-million a year is nowhere near enough money for the National Youth Development Agency.

Its chairman, Andile Lungisa, told MPs yesterday that the agency would not fulfil all its goals unless it was allocated at least R950-million a year.

He told the ad-hoc committee responsible for appointing new members for the agency's board - Lungisa is seeking to serve again - that the agency had not received money from the fiscus when it was first set up through a merger between the National Youth Commission and the Umsobomvu Youth Fund in 2009.

"The new institution was never capitalised, it was never given even a cent. When we were appointed as a board, we had to use money that was part of the National Youth Commission and Umsobomvu Youth Fund to be able to take the new institution forward without any capital injection from the government," Lungisa said.

He pointed to an assessment by the Presidency shortly after the establishment of the youth body that suggested it needed almost R1-billion a year to operate effectively.

"If you [create] an institution such as the NYDA, you must be able to give it an injection of R950-million to be able to start. That money did not come forward. We have been operating at less than R400-million annually . we have been complaining to the government that there must be an injection," he said.

The youth agency has been in the spotlight mostly for the wrong reasons since it was established.

In December 2010, the agency organised a controversial youth festival, blowing R100-million to transport, accommodate and feed delegates from around the world. Some of the delegates passed the time at the festival kissing.

Lungisa acknowledged that 42% of the agency's budget was used to pay its staff and that a more realistic salary bill would be about 25% of the total budget.

He said the salary bill had been inflated by the intake of staff from the two entities that joined to form the NYDA.

"The money must go to programmes; the money can't pay Andile's salary. That's why I was comfortable with what I was paid by parliament.

"I never went and toyi-toyied and said, 'I need a bigger salary'. In fact, I'm paid like an ordinary South African, like a peasant," he said.

Lungisa earns about R700000 a year as chairman.

But there was an outcry when it emerged that the agency's CEO, Steve Ngobeni, received an annual package of R1.8-million.

Replying to a parliamentary question, Performance, Monitoring and Evaluation Minister Collins Chabane said the agency employed at least 500 staff and had a R174-million annual salary bill. This amounted to at least R29000 a month for each staff member.

Another board hopeful told the ad-hoc committee she would push for salary cuts and a reduction in bonuses paid to staff members if she was given the nod.

Zandile Majozi, who is deputy chairman of the IFP's youth brigade, said it was unacceptable that the agency was spending so much on salaries. "It's a bit ridiculous to spend [that] on administration . we need to put that money into other programmes."

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BornintheRSA

Posted 357 days ago
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This is absurd. No one owes this organisation a living. The leaders need to show some return for R 400 million pa. Lungisa is paid nothing like a peasant's salary. R 700k pa puts him in the top 3% of the country.
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mcritic

Posted 356 days ago
Have you ever seen NYDA at work. The whole process is not only the budget made available to them - but their constant demand that the local authorities must pay for one party after another. They come with a so-called training program for the youth - but the end result is they want money for loudspeaker systems, food and drinks. i cannot say that they have contribute anything to employment creation or trainning to better prepare applicants for jobs.

The whole process is in fact one continuous looting exercise and the doubling of their budget would mean a bigger looting opportunity. The issue here is that NYDA became an opportunity for chancers to make money and they have no idea of what is required in the economy to make wider job opportunities possible and to enhance the quality of life of the youth - I do not believe their constant partying adds to the quality of life of the Youth.

A waste of money and time - this lot

RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 357 days ago
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"I'm paid like an ordinary South African, like a peasant," he said.

At R58 grand a MONTH ?!?!
When did peasants get that kind of salary and what does that make us?
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bess

Posted 356 days ago
... Im giving up my job as a specialist nurse IMMEDIATELY to become a peasant ... will triple my income.

SecretVoice

Posted 357 days ago
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Want, want, want and want some more. Disgusting excuse for the youth!!!
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Seedsofmyenlightenment

Posted 357 days ago
A youth that is not currtently has not given the nation return on what it has already invested in them!!!
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truthwins

Posted 356 days ago
This is only a glorified and unregistered welfare organisation, that serve a few connected ANC elite youths at the expense of the taxpayer and nothing else!.

truthwins

Posted 357 days ago
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It seems that this NYDA has no clear cut function at all, except maybe to keep a few of it's top dogs in the pound seats.
If it in fact had a function as claimed, would it be for ALL the youth of South Africa or only a certain section of society pertaining to race and political allegiance?.
The ANC must realise that their present mode of operation to throw taxpayers money only at the problems that can increase their votes, is going to bankrupt South Africa.

simonv

Posted 357 days ago
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there is no justification for the money these people want.even a blind man could see that they are not about the youth but lining their own pockets. R700000pa for attending meetings?

ByronSmit

Posted 357 days ago
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They need more money because too high a % is spent on salaries? They need MORE money to actually do something. Doesn't this suggest that the staff they are paying are not doing anything? Where I work, money spent is money earned.... Clearly, the NYDA is a one-way street in this regard.

ppss

Posted 357 days ago
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according to nyda, sa has the richest peasants in the world. what does that numpty do to warrant a salary like that?

Mike123

Posted 357 days ago
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The 400 million should be given to an NGO that can actually DO something with the money.

Jimbo56

Posted 357 days ago
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I want to be a peasant too, then, please.

What does this outfit actually DO?... Oooops wrong question, I should say What is this outfit "supposed" to do?

No-one doubts that there's a need for development so that our youth can progress, but I'm just not sure these Mamparas are able to do anything about it (no matter how much cash we throw at them).

Stirrer

Posted 357 days ago
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Now's a good time for Zuma to cut back on this ANCYL fundraising division! Close this organisation, and incorporate whatever the hell they are supposed to do back into a transparent, answerable institution which carefully uses our funds for the benefit of all South African youth!

nghunghunyane

Posted 357 days ago
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this agency should be disbanded really, i dont know of anything good or noteable that they have produced or that we will remember them with, its redundant, i mean, what have they dont to eliminate unemployment in our youth? mxm

all they want is money, left right and centre

Thuka-Thuka

Posted 357 days ago
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This must be a wind-up! C'mon. Clearly they missed April the 1st, so they put this in now.... Paid like a peasant? You horrid little creature. If you compare yourself to the others on the gravy train, I suppose you are paid like a peasant. Go jump!

buddi

Posted 357 days ago
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Wow, I wouldn't mind being paid like a peasant! Don't these people think before they speak!

buddi

Posted 357 days ago
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Even R29 000 is way over the top - what do these people do?
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truthwins

Posted 356 days ago
They getting paid exorbitantly for doing absolutely ZERO at the expense of the taxpayer - that's it!.

SoisSo

Posted 357 days ago
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R400 million is a huge budget! A sane organisation can achieve great things with even less. The NYDA's problem has got to do with effeciency. An average salary of R29K is a lot! It simply means the organisation is staffed with Masters and PhD holders? I simply doubt that the of level salaries is a fair compensation of qualification, skill and performance. A simple analogy will make one see the absurdity of this whole thing: A municipality undertakes to construct a road and they hire the whole community in the view of upliftment, and forget to buy the machinery, and the tar and they also forget to involve civil engineers! In a year's time you have no road!

mzansi-wanda

Posted 357 days ago
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"I'm paid like an ordinary South African, like a peasant," he said. Vavi was correct when he said you are spitting on the faces of poor South Africans and insulting their intergrity.

I wonder how long will your arrogance last.

lancelotlovejoy

Posted 357 days ago
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The NYDA is nothing more than institutionalised corruption masquerading as charity, a symptom of the malignancy gnawing away the ANC in general.

SoisSo

Posted 357 days ago
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It would be better if this peasant oke detailed all the initiatives and programs that his organisation cannot undertake due to underfunding. I doubt he knows what he's going to do with the extra R450 million; a mega party perhaps?, with more kissing and drinking? He should tabulate and highlight his achievements, etc and not tell us he did not toy toy. Ludicrous! Does he still have the toy toy mentality? As a professional?

Thuka-Thuka

Posted 357 days ago
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Aren't these the same people who organised the kissing fest? That alone should discount your ability to receive anything beyond what you already get. And, to be fair, questions what you get in the first place. I agree with Mike123 - some NGOs would love to get their hands on funding like that. Instead, we have organisations like ChildLine needing funding and this lot organising kissing contests.

SoisSo

Posted 357 days ago
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In this world poverty only really exists in the mind. This guy see themselves extremely poor @R58K a month? A village driver who earns marginally higher than his neighbours feels supreme, feeels rich beyond measure and his salary is only R3500 a month. This village drive will send his kids to school and he will make them feel priviledged and they'll end up being the most balance people! This oke on the other hand will forever tell ehis kids how poor they are, he may send his kids to Crawford but they'll end up doing drugs and will carry their daddy's mentality with them everywhere. This is the reason the Minister's children lack confidence and would do about any bad thing to prove that they exist. Poverty is a state of mind! My grandfather told me. If you gave a poor person R10 million today, most likely you wont find any left in ten years.
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RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 357 days ago
My Great-gran always used to tell us that we may be stone broke but we will never be dirt poor. It was only later in life that I understood the difference - pride

KarlMarx1

Posted 357 days ago
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What are they doing for the youth? He is crazy.

truthwins

Posted 357 days ago
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What South Africa is really in need of, is a section 9 institution that has the powers to investigate in depth the validity of all anticipated expenditure by the Treasury.
But in SA it seems that such independent controls would never be acceptable by government for the reason that it is more interested to rather limit control from any institution outside of government than expanding the right of the taxpayer to have access to such information, for very obvious reasons.

POST94

Posted 357 days ago
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No way Comrade. Besides, your days are numbered in that agency.

KaraboL

Posted 357 days ago
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I thought the mendate given to the NYDA was to create opportunities for entepreneurs to create jobs and not become employers themselves? They should have downsized when the two institutions merged and not kept the whole staff base who probably have nothing to do because clearly there are "no funds" to do anything... More of our tax money to pay people for doing nothing... eish

DonaldKnight

Posted 357 days ago
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Absolutely over the top! What outrageous expectations! Close this body down immediately. As someone mentioned above, R400 million is a HUGE budget and anyone with sense could do amazing things with that.

shelatt

Posted 357 days ago
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Please don't forget that anyone connected to the ANC have a different value mindset to us ignorant masses. To them 1 million is actually only worth around 100,000. So to ask for 950 million he is only asking for 95 million. The proof of this is the 100 million (actual 10 million value) spent on that famous youth shindig.
More proof of totally incompetent, ignorant, arrogant and stupid people!!!
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KafreeMoneykey

Posted 356 days ago
Are you implying that all the people associated with the ANC are incompetent, arrogant and stupid?

Seedsofmyenlightenment

Posted 357 days ago
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WOW, think some people should reflect of what they say, look at the situation in the country and just sit down. That is better than making absured requests

KafreeMoneykey

Posted 356 days ago
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Lungisa is a joke...The NYDA should be closed down, it has been highly politicised entity to push funds towards the ANCYL individuals specifically. I do not want to mention names here however, there is an entity called Anglo Zimele Fund which is doing pretty well in assisting up and coming entrepreneurs way better that this NYDA! The process used in the Zimele fund is thorough, transparent, and educational and everybody stands a chance and not a selected few. A few whose businesses fail before they even take off but the money is seeded! I have proof as that fund assisted someone who was not even considered by the NYDA, the person is thriving now and has employed more than 15 people. They want to control a billion now...Pravin please do not accept this nonsense! The NYDA should be managed differently, it is a mess...

Wiseguy

Posted 356 days ago
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@KafreeMoneykey....agree, well said!

LOL, the complete arrogance of this self-proclaimed "peasant".......show us what you have achieved!! As in tangible, good objective results......otherwise .....YOU FIRED and your budget should be halved and the rest should be used for real youth upliftment programmes...ones that actually deliver "the goods" for the youth !

SoisSo

Posted 356 days ago
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The NYDA is a classic modus operandi for embezzling funds in government, it works similarly accros all the sphese of government. This is what you do; identify a community upliftment project such as a road, that when completed will ensure commerce in the area thrives, and allocate an absurd amount of money to the construction of such a road. Call the community to a Hall and throw the biggest celebration ever, celebrating the 'soon to be built road', make a fuss and create a frenzy. Spend 25% of the budget on the celebration (most of the beneficiary vendors such as catering, transport for VIPs, hotels, sound system hire are close relations of the Admnistrators of the Fund). Declare large bonuses for the Fund Administrators for the 'soon to be built road', AND finally start the constrcution (really just did a large trench along the road to inconvinience the community and give them a sense that something big is about to happen. Then stall the project for an unreasonable period of time (water starts flooding people's properties, and they start becoming anxious); call the community once again to a meeting an announce that the Contractor ran away with all the money. The only money remaining is for closing the trench and restoring the road to its old self BUT promise the community that a huge party to celebrate the road coming to its old ways is on the pipeline. Report on the IDP (predertemined objectives) that a so and so road has been succesfully constructed. when one of the learned community members enquires about this 'mistake', just blame the printing machine.
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SoisSo

Posted 356 days ago
Actually go as far as blaming not only the printing machine but also Apartheid, the global financial meltdown, the recession, the exhange rates, inflation, the leadership battle heading to Mangaung, the Western Policies, climate change, sabotage, demons, Kaizer Chiefs, Britney Spear-s, homelands, Bantu education, jealosy, inkatha, Mangope, Adam and Eve, etc; just about anything one can pick randomly from the Government's Booklet of Excuses.
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KafreeMoneykey

Posted 356 days ago
@SoisSo. I totally agree with you!
@Wiseguy, that is how they roll!
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SoisSo

Posted 356 days ago
Well the Government Booklet of Excuses is increasing weekly! Add to it disrespect of leaders, poor artist's impression of the ruling party's leaders, Parliament's location, populism when implementing policies, media power, etc. At the end of it all you have one lousy government that promises a bridge to Heaven but paves a road in the opposte direction. Just keep voting for them you'll see!

AnthonyHill

Posted 356 days ago
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Clearly the NYDA is a futile exercise! It should be dissolved, in my eyes it hasn't done much to help the plight of the youth!