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Thu May 23 01:31:31 SAST 2013

Politicians, unions call for investigation into Lonmin deaths

TimesLIVE, Sapa, Reuters | 17 August, 2012 08:38

Political parties and organised labour are calling for an urgent investigation into the shootings at the Lonmin mine in Marikana in the North West.

Video courtesy of Reuters TV

A shoot-out between police and strikers at the mine left at least 36 people dead or wounded according to the National Union of Mineworkers.

African National Congress spokesman Jackson Mthembu said it needed to be determined who had caused the confrontation between police and striking miners.

Mthembu said the ANC was shocked about what happened.

“All of us feel very saddened by the violence we have seen on television,” he said.

“We are requesting that our government hold an inquiry on what happened today so that all of us South Africans can come to a conclusion on who is responsible.”  The Democratic Alliance said it was shocked and appalled by what had happened at Lonmin.

“We call on union leaders, the police and everyone else involved to immediately work towards a de-escalation of the conflict,” the party said in a statement.

“All action must be taken to avoid further bloodshed.” The DA said an urgent independent investigation was required to determine what happened and who was responsible.

“The families of everyone involved, and indeed the nation, deserve to know how and why this bloodshed occurred,” it said.

Traditional and religious leaders need to mediate: UDM

The United Democratic Movement (UDM) condemned the violence, saying "This is a very sad day for South Africa."

The party has called for traditional and religious leaders to mediate, and "help bring the parties back to the negotiating table."

"The UDM believes that the Kings, Chiefs and religious leaders of the different mineworkers should now be called in to mediate in this industrial dispute, as it is unlikely that the mineworkers would be willing to listen to the same Government that has brutally massacred them," said UDM president and MP Bantu Holomisa.

Brewing tensions

The Inkatha Freedom Party on Thursday said the massacre at the mine highlighted the brewing tensions within South African society and should not be underestimated.

“Its horror should not only shock us but bring to the fore how too often conflicts in this country are dealt with through violence,” IFP MP Mario Oriani-Ambrosini said in a statement.

“For too made years irresponsible leaders have spread throughout the country the culture of rebellion, lawlessness and violence as a tool of political action. Unless there is a fundamental change of culture at the highest level of government things will worsen.”

“We call on the President to order a for full, expedited and independent investigation of whether police action was justified, proportional and necessary under the circumstances.” Oriani-Ambrosini said

The Congress of the People also called for an investigation by an independent body into what instigated the killings.

“In order for calm to return in that area proper policing packaged with genuine political and trade union solution to the problem must be found urgently,” Cope MP Leonard Ramatlakane said in a statement.

“Cope believes the magnitude of this massacre warrants a comprehensive report by the police to Parliament’s portfolio committee on police.”

Echoes of Sharpville

The Azanian People’s Organisation compared the violence in Marikana to the Sharpeville and Soweto shootings.

“As Azapo we can only describe the situation as a massacre not different from March 21, 1960 in Sharpeville; June 16, 1976 in Soweto and June 17, 1992 in Boipatong,” the party said.

“It was the police that killed Andries Tatane, a protester who was demanding better services from government. Today police kill miners who are protesting for better working conditions and better remuneration.” 

Azapo called for the immediate suspension of all police who were at the scene and called for an immediate criminal investigation by an independent international body.  

A tragedy

President Jacob Zuma was alarmed and deeply saddened at the way the dispute at Lonmin’s mine in Marikana in the North West had degenerated to the tragic loss of so many lives, the presidency said in a statement on Thursday.

“We call upon the labour movement and business to work with government to arrest the situation before it deteriorates any further,” the presidency said.

Zuma said he had instructed law enforcement agencies to do everything possible to bring the situation under control and to bring the perpetrators of violence to book.

Police Minister Nathi Mthethwa’s office said in a statement on Thursday that police at the mine did their best in a volatile situation.

“The Minister [Mthetwa] is now considering requesting the President to institute a full inquiry into this whole situation, not just around what happened today but holistically at this situation,” said spokesman Zweli Mnisi.

“Now what should police do in such situations when clearly what they are faced with are armed and hardcore criminals who murder police?” 

Public order?

Lonmin were treating developments at the mine with the utmost seriousness, chairman Roger Phillimore said in a statement.

“The South African Police Service have been in charge of public order and safety on the ground since the violence between competing labour factions erupted over the weekend,” he said.

The violence claimed the lives of eight of the company’s employees and two police officers, said Phillimore.

The company deeply regretted the loss of life in what it saw as clearly a public order rather than labour related matter.

It was self defence: SAPS

“The police, in order to protect their own lives and in self-defence, were forced to engage the group with force.”

Adriao said this had followed extensive and unsuccessful negotiations by police to disarm and disperse a heavily armed group of illegal gathers at a hilltop near the mine.

“This resulted in several individuals being fatally wounded, and others injured.”  The crime scene which covered a vast area was being managed by senior officials from the Independent Police Investigative Directorate (IPID) and supported by an expert team of detectives and forensic experts, he said.

Unions regret violence

NUM said on Thursday the violence at the mine was extremely regrettable.

“We are saddened and regret this further loss of life which has just happened, bringing roughly the total number of deaths to 30,” said general secretary Frans Baleni.

“It is extremely regrettable. We hope a full investigation will be done and hope the perpetrators will be brought to book.”

Orchestrated?

Cosatu said the violence that resulted in the shooting of a number of people on Thursday at the mine in Marikana was being orchestrated.

“Broadly we believe there is an orchestration, a planned violence, because the violence that people are seeing today has been going on since January,” said general secretary Zwelinzima Vavi.

Vavi said Cosatu was extremely concerned about the loss of so many lives.

SACC calls for peaceful resolution

The South African Council of Churches said the problems at Marikana should be peacefully resolved.

A SACC delegation paid a pastoral and fact-finding visit to both workers and management at the mine, the council said.

“The impression we gained is that both parties are willing to engage one another provided the level of hostility is reduced to allow peaceful interaction and resolution.”  The SACC committed itself to assist in mkaing negotiations proceed and called on police to exercise restraint in the use of force as they sought to maintain law and order.

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BAMBINA

Posted 278 days ago
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the unions should be held responsible for this tragedy, the police are outnumbered it is either the striking miners of the police, this was self defence from the police side.
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BornintheRSA

Posted 278 days ago
The miners are adults. They are responsible for their own, chosen behaviour. No buck passing here - people choose the way they behave and respond to situations.
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Sabz

Posted 278 days ago
Spot on Bambina, and our politicians are gonna issue statements to gain cheap political points, those fired shots to the police, the question is who's life is better than the other. The police were not gonna sit and watch

Makoya1zn

Posted 278 days ago
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Yesterday was a sad day for SA since post apartheid, i would like 2 send my condolences to the families of the ppl that were brutally killed in the Marikana mines. I've been sceptical about Nationailsation but after what i saw yesterday i think maybe Gov should reconsider their stance on Nationalisation. Once again my condolences to the wives, mothers, fathers & children of the men that lost their lives.

ppss

Posted 278 days ago
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unrestricted union power. plain and simple. they think we still live in the 80s.

MicaParis

Posted 278 days ago
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The ANC expressed shock and disbelief at what had happened but still will not resurrect themselves out of the folklore routine of engaging themselves in party political infighting of who should lead in Mangaung whilst the country and our democracy are currently on fire of extinction, Comrades are busy fighting instead of ''leading'' the country!!.

It is regrettable that valuable lives of the miners, police and security guards have been adversely exposed and lost.Union leaders, the police and everyone else involved to must immediately work towards a de-escalation of the conflict. Whilst at it, the nation deserve to know how and why this bloodshed occurred. Unless there is a fundamental change of the culture of self enrichment and off side antics of being ''critically'' proactive at the highest level of government things will worsen, comrades should make it a habit to prevent disaster by being committed to their duties not only during unfortunate situations like in Lonmin.

The President must order a full, expedited and independent investigation of whether police action was justified, proportional and necessary under the circumstances. The intolerable behaviour that was noticeable from the unions involved was unacceptable, It is disappointing that leadership from both unions failed to resolve the impasse, leading to the loss of lives.

Unions must stop using our peoples life as a stepping stone to have keys to control tenders and fat government posts. The rotten antic of self enrichment in our Government will not take us anywhere as it belong to the middle ages and cannot fit anywhere in the 21 century, we have to do things by the book if we need to deliver this nation to the precious future.
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QPCLCD308

Posted 278 days ago
@Mica, no taking sides as usual!! Your comments are fair considering that you are a girl!

''The ANC expressed shock and disbelief at what had happened but still will not resurrect themselves out of the folklore routine of engaging themselves in party political infighting of who should lead in Mangaung whilst the country and our democracy are currently on fire of extinction, Comrades are busy fighting instead of ''leading'' the country!!.''
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As a DA high profile member (I mean very high profile) I feel very unhappy and trembling in my chair if ANC possesses such kind of grievous and very harmful talent which their intelligence can single handedly lead DA into political wilderness.
Mica's ideas are not ANC or DA based but are relevant to the true unity that this country is dreaming and in need of! If ANC can rule by people like Mica, than Zuma is not lying if he is saying ANC will rule until Jesus comes back, Mica is a very dangerous hot property that I would love to steal over to the DA, she is a top notch head honcho that any political party can dream of, it is very difficult to find a comrade who can easily lure and win over the interest of the opposite enemy, Mica has got clearly that skill and talent which is a powerhouse in any political platform.

staren

Posted 278 days ago
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Initially I thought the police had acted heavily, but after seeing the raw reuters footage and hearing the tension in the police voices after they opened fire on the group that tried to attack their line, and then seeing the al jazeera footage on news24 which shows a longer version of the clip and you see the cops securing up the guns that the mob were carrying, you realise that they had no choice but to use deadly force. And given the fact that 2 of them had already been killed by the mob and a third speared, you cant really blame them...

But still its a tragic symptom of the the inequalities and desperation we still face in this country and you have to feel for those that lost their lives and their loved ones.

However, it should never have been allowed to reached this point and the unions must shoulder the blame for instigating the situation...

Snow

Posted 278 days ago
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What is there to investigate?

The ANC legalised the “shoot to kill” law following its adoption by the National Assembly in May 2012, and subsequent approval by the Committee on Security and Constitutional Development in the National Council of Provinces on the 20th of June 2012.

BokFan

Posted 278 days ago
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There is some seriously fuzzy thinking going on here and elsewhere in the media. Its not as if these men were being forced to work as miners. They exercised choice to be where they were. Sure strike for better conditions if it gets to that but this barbarism is a very contagious disease and must be snuffed out with great urgency.

Of course the issue cannot end there. The organisers of the strike must stand trial for their role in these deaths. Their profoundly reckless talk, threats and posturing has lead to this situation. But lets face it when the president of your country is elected on a "kill and die" ticket its easy for any wannabe mob boss to use the same tactics just as we see in the Western Cape with the youth (yob) leagues behavior.

As was predicted the anc's unethical leadership has nurtured this culture of violence-for-short-term gain. If you want to feel sorry for anyone feel sorry for your kids. Unless we come to our senses NOW future generations are the ones who will reap this whirlwind.
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SuiGeneris

Posted 278 days ago
''''''''''Its not as if these men were being forced to work as miners. They exercised choice to be where they were. Sure strike for better conditions if it gets to that but this barbarism is a very contagious disease and must be snuffed out with great urgency''''''''

Exactly........If you have a wage dispute and want to negotiate for a better wage, you call for a meeting with your employer and discuss the matter in a civilized way !

If they come with a violent mindset, armed with weapons and threaten the lives of others, then they must rightfully expect retaliation from the authorities !

Ntebaleng

Posted 278 days ago
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This is all JZ doing, together with Gweda and Baleka. Including their lackeys in the presidency.JZ must go after Mangaung... JZ has created a divisive leadership in government. This issue of mines has been going on since last year but the government turned a deaf ear because the Zuma Empire is plowing big profits from mines. Our leaders in government have acquired debt riddled shares for being in mining and there is no way they can act to assist workers because all they think about is how they will be able to finance their debts.

My List
1. Motlanthe - president
2. Lindiwe Sisulu or Max Sisulu deputy president
3. Thandi Modise - Chair
4. Jeff Radebe - Secretary
5. Mbalula - Deputy secretary
6. Matthew Phosa - Treasurer

We need leadership and JZ failed to provide that, they went for the administration of Limpopo but failed to deliver , they took over the administration of education in Eastern Cape but failed to deliver, they to over the administration of roads in North West but failed to deliver. JZ is crowding himself with people who want to see the status quo maintained and the country going down.

If JZ is retained after Mangaung ythis country by February 2012 will be on fire and our childrens future will be going up in smoke. The future that so many have died for will never be attained if we continue with the leadership of the two headed monster
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BokFan

Posted 278 days ago
Arent these the very people who would die and kill for Zuma????????????


My friend, the whole anc top leadership is rotten to the bone. Anyone still supporting them risks being guilty of crimes against humanity.

buddi

Posted 278 days ago
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Someone should be held responsible for this violence, but after seeing and reading all the media footage, I don't think it should be the police.
These miners were ready for battle, literally and figuratively. They were armed to the teeth, and surely the police were allowed to protect themselves - otherwise, without a doubt, more police would have been killed.
In other countries it is considered an extreme crime, worse than any other, to kill a cop, and fellow police and prosecutors will do everything to bring the culprits to book. In this country, it is 'just another life'.
No loss of life is justified due to violence, but who started it in the first place?

m1si2zi3nzo4

Posted 278 days ago
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Yet another case of fruitless waste of tax money in "investigations", to sidetrack the real issue. The "Penis Revolution" never warranted "investigations". It sprung into action, without thinking. We have warned about the implications of trade unions ruling the country, in alliance with a ruling party elite. The union will always act in the interests of its own elite, who are now ruling the country. Similarly, employees will desert any union that acts as a conduit pipe for votes for the elite rulers. Every word uttered by the NUM, and their SAPS was about "shooting" and "not negotiating with someone who invades your house". Even if those who uttered these words did not mean their consequences, but an ordinary police member is in no position to determine that, in a volatile situation. Unfortunately, the Minister of "Shoot the bastards" is at the helm of the mine capitalism.