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Sat May 26 20:40:28 SAST 2012

Malema knifes SACP and Cosatu chiefs

THABO MOKONE | 14 June, 2011 20:5469 Comments
ANC Youth League president Julius Malema ups the ante at the University of the Western Cape yesterday
Image by: Picture: ESA ALEXANDER

Julius Malema has hit at SA Communist Party and Cosatu leaders, accusing them of failing to lead workers and of criticising the ANC Youth League's mines nationalisation policy without offering alternatives.

He lashed out at SACP general secretary Blade Nzimande, who on Sunday said Malema's populist statements were the biggest threat to South Africa's democracy.

The youth league president said the people who claimed to lead the working class had turned into a "lobby group".

Speaking at a meeting of the league's provincial general council, at the University of the Western Cape's Bellville campus, Cape Town, Malema said the league was the real champion of the working class because those who claimed to lead the workers were too busy fighting for government positions.

"We represent the petrol attendant, we represent the waiters and waitresses and we represent the masses," Malema said.

"We do this because those who are supposed to be the vanguard of the working class have turned themselves into a lobby group.

"The only time they open their mouths is when they say so-and-so must be a mayor, so-and-so must be what-what . the working class is leaderless", he said to thunderous applause.

"Our nature does not allow a vacuum. In the absence of 'the vanguard of the working class', the youth league occupies that space.

"The youth league struggles for total emancipation of the working class," he said.

Malema's latest salvo was aimed principally at Communist Party leaders such as Nzimande, who is higher education and training minister, and the party's deputy general secretary, Jeremy Cronin, who is deputy transport minister.

Speaking to the media on Sunday, at the end of his party's central committee meeting, Nzimande, without naming anyone, said: "This demagogy constitutes the greatest threat, not just to our electoral performance, but also to our hard-won democratic achievements."

The Sunday Times reported that Zwelinzima Vavi, general secretary of trade union federation Cosatu, warned that South Africa would become a "banana republic" if the league and others got rid of President Jacob Zuma and ANC secretary-general Gwede Mantashe.

Cosatu and the Communist Party say that the league wants to oust Zuma and Mantashe at the ANC elective conference in Mangaung, Free State, next year.

Nzimande and Vavi vehemently oppose some of Malema's comments on nationalisation of the mines. They have branded Malema's campaign as a scheme to rescue debt-laden BEE mine owners.

Malema, who was speaking a day before the youth league's 24th elective conference begins at Gallagher Estate, in Midrand, said of Vavi and Nzimande: "You talk about nationalisation, they say you are bought by the black business.

"You talk about taking the land without compensation, you are reckless.

"Everything else that seeks to liberate the working class gets criticism from the so-called vanguard of the working class.

"They criticise, there is no plan . [You ask,] 'Can you put an alternative' - nothing, zilch. Why? You must wait for these ones [the youth league] to think first," Malema said.

The youth league leader, who is said to be driving a campaign to oust Zuma next year at the ANC elective conference, said he had no hidden agenda against Zuma.

"They used us to criticise our president and some of you believe those things. President Zuma is unchallenged. He is the president of the ANC and the country," Malema said.

"Nobody will wake up in the morning and topple President Zuma. Nobody will plot against President Zuma. Zuma is our president and we will never allow that.

"There is no attack, none whatsoever, from the youth league against President Zuma. Maybe people need to know because they forget easily. If we did not want President Zuma, we were going to say so . in the same way when we did not want President Mbeki we said, 'We don't want you'.

"And not only that, we went to President Mbeki's house and said to him, 'We are not going to support you'."

The Western Cape is backing Malema in his bid for a second term as league president.

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morecats

Posted 346 days ago
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OK, so here we are on the new site and someone already stole my meerkat moniker. Just shows how desperate these cretins are to silence us. LOL!!
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JohnFichardt

Posted 346 days ago
You're dead right
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Lesheshela

Posted 346 days ago
Howzat Meerkat
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Riaan

Posted 346 days ago
I love the new commenting system. Well done. TimesLive. Too bad, like Meerkat said, the cretins stole some of the avatar names. At least I have my old name back. It's good to be back.
In order to keep the comment relevant, my two cents. Malema should really be muzzled. Every time this oxygen thief opens his mouth raw sewerage pours out.
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Lets-win-back-the-western-cape

Posted 346 days ago
meercat and riaan

im so so sory fo all the cr@p i spew, i have seen the light viva da viva
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Riaan

Posted 346 days ago
Lets win back the western cape
Glad you have seen the light, bro. Viva Helen Zille! LOL

AaronGumede

Posted 346 days ago
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He is correct madoda, remember Randall Howard, Vavi and Arivia people. While they cried for conditions on sale to be imposed, Randall and Vavi were lobying for Randall to be absorbed into the government. Sad story.

Mediagab

Posted 346 days ago
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As usual this idiot has nothing worthwhile to say! Malema is the main reason why foreign investors are uncertain about investing in this country. Our president is weak because he cant put this fool in his place!

morecats

Posted 346 days ago
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Hmm, I see the moderator is watching us with a hawk eye! Wonder how far the conditions will be taken to try and "moderate" the Timeslive faithful? Might become a lame forum fit for old women with knitting needles and knee blankets ..... time will obviously tell! LOL!!
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LivingInExile

Posted 346 days ago
Posted shorly after you early this morning and it was removed.

Bart365

Posted 346 days ago
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Kids whould not play with knives!

Any bets this statement would have been taken OUT OF CONTEXT?????

Wort

Posted 346 days ago
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Malema is making enemies everywhere. This is good!

EnricoBosman

Posted 346 days ago
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When malema gets wacked it will be an anc inside job

Classof69

Posted 346 days ago
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Love the in fighting!

RealSayWhat

Posted 346 days ago
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Hey moderator - you don't like comments that critisise your style much. Three out of three deleted neh?

Ah well four out of four gone
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LivingInExile

Posted 346 days ago
I think there was an agent up and about early this morning going mad clicking the report button.

Aloud

Posted 346 days ago
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malema is a fool

Daffy

Posted 346 days ago
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I think the young man has the cat by the tail, when it comes to emulating the ANCYL of the Mandela era by being militant and revolutionary. being rude and arrogant can not be said to be that. he is being provocative and rude to boot! time the media kept him in the dark as to what he said the yesterday, because it seems he feeds on reading his comments in the paper the following day and adds more to keep the thread going! so media should for at least a week not write a tot on his rantings of shenanigans and see how quick he will call a news conference to complain like Andile Lungisa did about not being "Miss South Africa", when the media starved him of his egoistic comments after the the "kissing Festival". so Mr. Malema will also find that once he is not in the news that he is not bigger than life !
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EnricoBosman

Posted 346 days ago
Shocking how far the league has sunk.Thambo and Mandela were lawyers......malema,finished school at 21.mokaba....less said the better.mbalula....another clown..

Duzula

Posted 346 days ago
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Viva Malema Viva... No one can Stop you
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Sifebekanyogo

Posted 346 days ago
A bullet will stop him or a heart attack
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Henry-Ianvan_den_Berg

Posted 345 days ago
and that is what they said about the titanic as well and look what happened. God will stop him. hear my words!

TAT2OOD

Posted 346 days ago
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i bet his mom wacks him everyday as a sign of love

DBNDADUDE

Posted 346 days ago
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HAHA Malema has a knife out for Blade!!! This little man is playing with fire and pretty soon he is going to get his fingers burnt. Bloody agent

Vanguard_of_the_working_class

Posted 346 days ago
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this new site is confusing and my name has been taken away, nxa

GrOaT

Posted 346 days ago
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Malema! Just keep on talking, lazy-thinkers will listen.

Anarchy

Posted 346 days ago
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yep.

kusta

Posted 346 days ago
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One thing is for sure nationalisation wont happen without cosatu backing ,by attacking mantashe malema and his cronies aren't doing themselvels any favours.

amaBokoboko

Posted 346 days ago
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Snorecats maybe you can take that as a sign to start afresh with a new vision.

I am not interested in so called policy decisions or discussions that the yob leauge puts on the table. They claim to be the voice of the masses. yet who elected them to that status. As far as i know they may have less than a thousand dues paying members and even that number probably hasnt been audited reliably.

So in other words they are nothing but a bunch of raucous frauds banging a bell to see which voting sheep come first to the slaughter.


Porco

Posted 346 days ago
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Well said Daffy

Mpimpi1

Posted 346 days ago
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I do not think the squables and insult hurling between Vavi, Blade and Malema are leading the country anywhere. They are all just a bunch of self-centered, attention seeking, childish and ignorant individuals who do not even need to be called leaders.

juju10111

Posted 346 days ago
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@groat - that would make the majority of young south africans who are tired of the stutus quo, lazy-thinkers.
fact is we are tired of the so called educated to tell us what to think and what is right. for the longest time we have been listening to the so called educated and your non lazy thinkers and where has that got us????
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GrOaT

Posted 346 days ago
JujU

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We Copy, We cut, We paste, We even delete, Y?????? Its because we don't engage each other. Finish-eN-KlaaR.

Sifebekanyogo

Posted 346 days ago
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This new site sucks big time
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SeanRedmond

Posted 346 days ago
And then some, I always wonder why people try and fix things when they are not broken. The "old" site was just fine. Now we have to figure out this one.
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Sifebekanyogo

Posted 346 days ago
Copying News24 doesnt work. You need to be original Timeslive

morecats

Posted 346 days ago
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@amaboko

If I wanted to change anything, which I don't, I would have liked to have been afforded the courtesy of deciding it for myself, which I wasn't. Typical!!

Juli has been barking this same rhetoric to his glazed eyed followers for years now and no forward movement is detected. In fact, the slide in the ANC popularity should have been a warning sign that his followers are all as dof as what he is. But with him, no penny will drop and the truth will have to be presented with a sledge hammer to the forehead.
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LivingInExile

Posted 346 days ago
Would have to a moerse strong sledge hammer bru. You know the one about the only race on earth that can break a sledge hammer.LOL

pws80

Posted 346 days ago
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Malema is right about being the voice of the workless class. What is ironic is that they can see him being their voice of reason.

Idiocracy at its best.

kusta

Posted 346 days ago
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This NEW site is like a breath of fresh air the moderater deletes everything that seems lightly offendsive hopefully the will be no more EJWEST,meerkat is a cave beast, scarface,khomotso from atridgville,mbongowam and all other trolls.
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Riaan

Posted 346 days ago
Too bad they didn't get rid of Biko Lives (unfortunately still). His mindless rambling are really getting on my nerves.

bytheway

Posted 346 days ago
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Now how exactly is the ANCYL 'leading' the working class? What is the organization doing for the working class? Most media statements and reports from ANCYL is usually just insults, attacks, apologizing for stepping on big toes...

I see zip leadership lest saying any sign of a visionary.

Biko-Lives

Posted 346 days ago
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As I have said it before that we should also continue our fight of not only white domination but also of black domination that is being represented by scrupoulus union bosses who are colluding with the employers to exploit the working class! The unions need to know exactly that we are not afraid of opening up branches of the Youth League in every office or work place near them to represent the genuine interest of the working class without any joining fee!
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Xovizwe

Posted 346 days ago
I don't believe this mfwethu. I really I can't find sense in your writing. In my age (26), and a fully employed government official, I really don't find a little sense in either yours or Malema's comments. Neither of my colleagues do. In fact this youth league thing is for young people still at high school and those who bunked school and few tertiary level students. At working level,one cannot think for a moment that these Malema's statements really make sense. I wonder if some people even try to engage themselves to it. I truly believe that yourself Biko, still at tertiary student with high ambitions in politics.

Mzungu

Posted 346 days ago
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this little war is just a ploy to take away the eyes of the public from the Looting !

will not work !

ANC deception, again.

RedPepper

Posted 346 days ago
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The "Stirrer" makes me a very happy chappie. The more he stirs the more it stinks - well, can the stench be any more worse than within the anc itself.

the_original_MommaCyndi

Posted 346 days ago
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Love the picture.
"Oh lord won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz,
My friends all have Porche and I must make amends ..."

JamesTurner

Posted 346 days ago
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"We represent the petrol attendant, we represent the waiters and waitresses and we represent the masses," Malema said.

I call Bullsh!t

Bantutruth

Posted 346 days ago
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Viva Juju my president viva! Now to take our land back. Our older generation have feared the white racists for far to long(Vavi,blade etc). We the youth will march on and take over our economic wealth, the white people will be defeated once and for all! We will not shoot the Bo#r we are simply going to take back what's ours. The anti revolutionary comments by white imperialist DA And Freedom Front+ comments on this site will not intimidate us!

Mpfunzeni

Posted 346 days ago
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All i could say after reading this was "Wow"...The podium is now being used as a shooting vintage point

DimitriTsafendasFan

Posted 346 days ago
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Great site, love it and boy oh boy do i love my new name, great!
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TAT2OOD

Posted 346 days ago
your tape worm tells you what to do then i guess
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LivingInExile

Posted 346 days ago
Are you using the matrons computer in the groendakkies or did they let you out bru?

TAT2OOD

Posted 346 days ago
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so your tapeworm tells you what to do then hey?
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DimitriTsafendasFan

Posted 346 days ago
Sometimes, but if Juju can be a YL leader while suffering from the same condition, it can't be too bad!

dizee

Posted 346 days ago
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It is time that the press stop printing what this fool is up to.

swona1

Posted 346 days ago
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this page is now better, than the thank yous we received after every comments!

swona1

Posted 346 days ago
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boring, cant they just paste my comments without going to the thank you part? disgusted! withdraw my previous comment!

meerkat_is_a_cave_beast

Posted 346 days ago
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Only SASCO makes time to listen to an individual that failed matric, getting H in Woodwork, which proves the beliefs I have always held about SASCO that its an organisation of failures and mediocres who know that they need, will need and will have to lick political a$$es to be something in life.

Students who do well at school and university dont associate with COSAS and SASCO and they dont need to sell their minds, bodies and souls to the ANC on completion of their studies to get jobs and develop their careers.

Phaedioux

Posted 346 days ago
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To test out my previous comment, I shall repost one that hasn't appeared yet:

It would be a very good thing for SA if the ANC, SACP and Cosatu were to dissolve their alliance.

Future elections would show exactly what representation thay have from the population.

It would also help to reduce the ANC's majority which would allow better checks and balances through having a more powerful opposition.

Malema should keep up the good work in attempting to achieve this.

Rothschild

Posted 346 days ago
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Malema is a puppet and every puppet has an expiry date. Just ask Mugabe.

hals

Posted 346 days ago
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I was dreaming of retirement in SA. This dream vanished because of people like Malema, Zuma, ……! The last leader without higher education was Hitler, but he had at least standard 8. How can a country possibly be led by a standard 4 brain? I visited SA a couple of month ago and was shocked by what happened to Hillbrow and the city centre. Where are the times of a Prof. Barnard when SA medical science was world leading? (Heart transplant) When SA wasn’t a typical African third world country. How can such a vast majority support a Government that makes the life of all South Africans harder then it should be. Who pays better wages: black or white bosses? Aurora doesn’t pay at all! I am a white European who does not really need this country, (no apartheid person, I am not British, no colonist, just white) but it would be lovely to retire there, because it’s so beautiful. You people don’t seem to realize what gem you live in. Why do you let it be destroyed by a few uneducated people who survive only because the have no intention to get the education system working. This system has been used by the apartheid politician already. So this is nothing new, they just copying the Nats, because it worked for them. I don’t see the difference between black and white.

Bellend

Posted 346 days ago
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praat malema praat!

Courage

Posted 345 days ago
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While - suprisingly - Malema has a point that Cosatu and the SACP have come up with nothing new and useful he still SOMEHOW thinks Nationalism will work - has he not seen Communism in action - ESPECIALLY with these greedy scoundrels EVERYTHING will be looted, stolen and abused. Let's come up with something new people...

v_3

Posted 345 days ago
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"we represent the waiters and waitresses"
Especially the nude waitresses "serving" sushi.

jsavo

Posted 345 days ago
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Testing Testing Testing 1 2 3
Testing Testing Testing 1 2 3

Now - - wonder what happens if I push this little button here ?
Ahh!

What a site ? Fab !
ok lets go !

vonganid

Posted 344 days ago
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