I agree, Tutu should stick to his ministery, Kasrils should be ashamed of himself and South Africa in general should worry about what is going on their backyard!

God.

Are those the effects of Israel or of the typical lawlessness society and lack of human dignity that normally follows an Arab society that is most ruled and intimidated by militant factions?

We are very sorry that you had to witness first hand what its like when militant factions like Hamas attack Israel on a daily basis and are fully aware of the effects it will have on the Palestinian people.

Maybe resubmit your comments?

A bit of hate speech may be the reason why your comments are removed.

No worries.

The Jews are so accustomed to explicit and implicit hate that they returned to their (yep, it belonged to them in year dot AD when they were booted out) tiny (not much different to the Free State) place in a f*cking oilless desert and hoped that the rest of the world would leave them alone.

Your parents or grandparents probably told the Jews to go back to Plestine - they did!

Good on you mate.

But the Bishop may need the title of the Book.

You keep on referring to the Jewish faith as the main vehicle behind the problems in the middle east. What is so funny and ridiculous about your comment is that Israel's stance against a Palestinian state is purely because of security purposes, of course you wouldn't believe that as people are not accustomed to Jews actually standing up for their own personal well fair, and who could blame you, for nearly 20 centuries Jews knew that their place was to simply allow people trample all over them. Now Jews have developed this sinister attitude that they are a proud nation, that will defend their homeland. Its not only religion that ties us to Israel, its the fact that it has been our historical homeland for the past 40000 years.

Going back to your religion argument, what about Hamas and Hisbulah religious outlook on Jews and the Jewish state. I can assure you that this outlook is what is mostly driving an anti Israel agenda, an Israel that is free of Jews, and preferably a world that is free of Jews. Are these the people that we should negotiate with?

A bit of a soiled son if you ask me

Porco, my opinion of Tutu is based on his lifelong commitment to justice for the opressed.
He doesn't turn a blind eye if his principled stands makes him unpopular to some people.
On what basis do you regard him as soiled?

He might be a great political hero, and a church leader to boot, but as a christian, I have my doubts

In Africa among his own people, Tutu is in fact a politician who uses the robes of the clergy as a mere publicity tool, and who pretends a concern for human rights, protesting on behalf of the cause of Palestinian Moslems when in fact he is silent in the face of the genocidal extermination of his fellow Black African Christians by the Moslems from Sudan to Somalia, to Northern Nigeria. Tutu also refuses to hardly utter a word as the Mugabe regime in neighboring Zimbabwe perpetrates a Stalinisesque tyranny right in Tutu’s own backyard in an abuse of human rights and dignity that leaves even the ugly injustices of apartheid wax shallow in comparison. At the same time the ANC government brought to power by Mandela with Tutu’s blessings have seen Black infant mortality skyrocket, Black longevity plummet, and Black unemployment mushroom, and corruption run rife. Not a word from Tutu either when the ANC government declared as a political decision (not a medical or scientific one) that AIDS was a social disease but not a retro viral infection better treated with African potato than anti retro viral drugs – a policy sentencing countless Blacks and their children to death - need I go on?

One of us is either being fooled by Tutu, or the victim of propaganda!
All my research into Tutu points in the opposite direction to your allegations. Based on this, I find him to be a principled man of God genuinely interested in the well-being of his fellow human beings (especially the oppressed), irrespective of their colour, creed or political persuasion.

MisterWendal
There is a ton of injustice in SA to be sorted out. He may feel free to vocalize his dislike for atrocities abroad, but unless he first physically tackles the local injustices, this "court" remains a joke. A murderess as a witness...nice! That already promotes this to something below a kangaroo-court. Go ahead and waste money, time and make complete fools of yourselves...please.

That unfortunately goes for many of our politicians. They spend more time travelling overseas than trying to solve our own problems. I think the president has spent more time on Qaddafi than his own country!

What in the hell is she going to testify too?
Does she live in Isreal? NO.
Is she Palestinian? NO.
Is she Jewish? NO.
So what? Please tell me?

Like others have said - SA needs to focus on SA. Winnie is of no consequence to others in the world. Just ask anyone, who is Winnie? Answer: Wasn't she married to Nelson Mandela at some point. (full stop)

So, Article Seven of the "Hamas Covenant" does not call fo genocide of all Jews?
(If unsure see avalon dot law dot yale dot edu for the English translation)

Though Hamas did not hijack Islam for their own agenda. The genocidal agenda goes back about fourteen hundred years.

In turn, the good retired Archbishop of branch of Christianity invented by a British monarch for his own ends, has been always forgiving towards the Mother of All Stompie Stompers, but expects the Jews to accept unceasing barrage of deadly Hamas and other Islamist terrorist faction, and if not to offer the other cheek, to offer the other kindergarten or school bus.

Where are the "Human Rights Activists" flotillas protesting the massacres of pro-democracy Syrians?

Where are the flotillas to Famagusta to protest the continuing unlawful Turkish occupation of Northern Cyprus?

What about the slow but continuing genocide of Kurds in Turkey, Iraq and Iran?

What about the daily massacres of Christian Kopts in Egypt?

There is an ongoing genocidal war, disguised as merely criminal activity against Afrikaaner farmers and small holders in this country.

The world seems to happily tolerate all these, while many, including ANC bigots in South Africa seem disappointed whenever the Jews in Israel are able to defend themselves against extermination.

The comparison between the Apartheid regime of South Africa and the State of Israel is a false comparison which is criminal in nature. Israel does not have an Apartheid constitution or legislation; in fact Israel celebrates equal rights of all its citizens regardless of nationality, ethnic background or religion. This is a fact, the Old City of Jerusalem is more than equally divided into quadrants that respect, protect and support religious observances of Christians, Muslims and Jews. Arab Israelis receive all our rights and are represented in our parliament.