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Wed Jun 19 12:03:52 SAST 2013

Zuma cops flak

GRAEME HOSKEN, CHANDRÉ PRINCE and DOMINIC MAHLANGU | 13 June, 2012 00:01

President Jacob Zuma's appointment of Mangwashi "Riah" Phiyega as the first woman police commissioner has been criticised as nothing but a "big flop" - including by members of the ruling party.

Yesterday, security experts, opposition parties and senior ANC sources slammed Zuma's latest choice, saying the human resources practitioner came with "nothing but certificates".

ANC members who spoke shortly after Zuma announced Phiyega's appointment at the Union Buildings, criticised the president's decision, saying he was not resolving the chaos in the police service but was more intent on securing his political survival ahead of the all-important Mangaung elective conference in December.

"At a time when we are faced with such challenges in the police service, Zuma brings a former social worker to head the most important post in the land. This is a big flop.

"How is the new commissioner going to deal with intelligence reports that involve politicians? With her lack of experience in security matters, we are afraid that she will be a useful tool for those in power," a senior ANC member in Gauteng said.

In a late afternoon press statement, ANC's headquarters, Luthuli House, expressed its support for Phiyega, saying her knowledge of public policy and understanding of the government would help her in her job.

But others said: "Not that we want someone connected to the ANC, but surely we deserve better than this. This appointment will solve nothing other than give space for politicians to dictate terms within the SA Police Service."

Zuma also announced that he had fired Bheki Cele as police commissioner based on the report by the chairman of the board of inquiry into Cele's fitness to hold office, Judge Jakes Moloi.

Zuma said he had a detailed discussion with Police Minister Nathi Mthethwa about the corrective measures that needed to be adopted immediately.

"These include management and financial systems as well as the breaches of information security within the establishment, which have unfortunately become common.

"We have in the past few weeks witnessed a disappointing spectacle of police officers jeopardising state security by placing information in the public domain, in contravention of their oath of office.

"This is unacceptable and intolerable if the fight against crime is to continue being effective," he said.

While Zuma portrayed Phiyega as the ideal antidote to the internal strife plaguing the upper echelons of the police, senior researcher at the Institute for Security Studies Johan Burger labelled the appointment as a slap in the face of police management.

"Clearly, once again, Zuma has not learnt from the previous two mistakes in appointing civilians and politicians to head the police service," Burger said, referring to Phiyega's predecessors - the jailed Jackie Selebi and now-fired Cele.

Burger said though in principle the reasons for firming up management and financial systems of the police service might appear to be good, Zuma's stance on information security within the police was "extremely worrying".

"While I have nothing against the new appointment, this crackdown on information leaks is something that needs to be guarded against.

"Instead of welcoming the public airing of financial abuses, Zuma is shutting down the avenues for information to become public."

Burger said there was a "need for more openness, not less" and that the new appointment was an indictment on police management.

"It shows what the president really thinks of those good hard-working members, of whom there are many.

"What we need is another commissioner, like [Nhlanhla] Mkhwanazi, who is prepared to stand up and show the country and the world that there are good, hard-working and honest members within the core of the police," he said.

DA leader Helen Zille described the appointment of the new commissioner as an act of "desperation" designed to muster support for Zuma ahead of Mangaung.

Zille said Zuma should have appointed someone with a demonstrable ability to fight crime.

Mthethwa, the ANC Women's League and police union Popcru welcomed Phiyega's appointment, saying she brought with her a "wealth of experience on strategic leadership and sound management background" .

Phiyega's experience within government has been limited. Her only real exposure came when she was appointed by Zuma as chairman of the Presidential State-Owned Enterprises Review Committee in October 2010.

The committee was appointed to review all entities including SOEs, agencies, utilities as well as companies within which the state has significant shareholding. It was given a deadline of September 2011 to submit a final report but had failed to deliver by March this year.

Before this, Phiyega spent her time in the corporate sector until she fell foul of Absa CEO Maria Ramos.

The two had worked together at Transnet, where Ramos had been appointed as CEO and Phiyega had occupied various positions, including running the Transnet Foundation.

But, according to sources, she and Ramos had "personal difficulties".

Phiyega then moved to Absa. But Ramos was then appointed CEO at the bank and Phiyega knew she "would be squeezed out".

But Mthethwa insisted that her "vast" experience in both the public service and private sector would place her on perfect ground to steer the police towards "better compliance, systems integration, effective and greater accountability".

"We believe that her appointment is well-deserved as her CV speaks volumes and that her previous achievements in various management echelons are not coincidental but achieved through dedication and hard work."

The ANC Women's League also endorsed Phiyega's praises, saying it believed that a "strong woman at the helm of the police service will bring a renewed focus to overcoming the scourge of gender-based violence, such as rape, which has become a growing concern across the country".

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SecretVoice

Posted 371 days ago
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Here we go again.
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disillusionedstill

Posted 371 days ago
Maybe given a try, it may work (similar to Meyer Kahn which, who knows).

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Dada3012

Posted 371 days ago
Lets give her a chance.

She is a well educated lady who has been in very high posts before so she might be the rainbow that the police service needs.
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lemzito

Posted 370 days ago
How on earth do u apoint some1 who has a boardroom expirience while the rest of the country needs to be safe out there in the streets and @ thier houses. Our presidents really proofs to his dectractors that he doese not know what he is doing. This is what happens when u give some1 who did not have formal education the highest position in the country. He thinks any1 with the highest qualification can run any department. Why do we have graduates in the country with the highest qualification still uneployed? Its bcause companies think that they dont have the relevent expirience. There are a lot of man nad women in blue with a lot of expirice both on the field and academically. Talk about some1 who would really like to secure 2nd term at the expense of these officers. This is demoralising to those loyal officers who are looking @ self developing themseves in the police force.But I say to the please keep up the gud work. South Africans especially those who will be voting for the ruling party, I appeal to u to please do the right thing and seek the right leaders for our organisation. Zuma has bn dragging the name of our organisation in the mud for too long since when we started supporting him for his fraud and rape charges.

BornintheRSA

Posted 371 days ago
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I would say "give the new commissioner a chance".
Based upon Zuma's poor track record at appointing people (incompetent cadres), I have to be suspicious of his reasons for appointing someone who has no job related experience. When Meyer Kahn was appointed (seconded) in 1997, he came with a strong managerial track record and decades of solid business leadership successes.
I do hope that Phiyega will bring ethics and morale back into the police force.

Daffy

Posted 371 days ago
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I would have thought Edna Monyane the Metro Police spokesperson she is a career policeman and she has done her time as a crime fighter on the streets. but this sisi? i dont know

AaronGumede

Posted 371 days ago
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Its a shame actually, is there nobody with police or military background? Who will be controlling this woamn? Mdluli? Mkhwanazi proved himself strong and uncompromising and such are not Zuma's types. Give Zuma another term and see the country on her knees.

Gormogon1

Posted 371 days ago
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As we have come to expect, our esteemed president who recently stated “I know what I am doing”, makes another momentous stuff-up.

tiredofstupids

Posted 371 days ago
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How long before she promotes herself to General...?
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Black-Moses

Posted 370 days ago
No, no promotion and bestowment are two different animals altogether bra.

deebee

Posted 371 days ago
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I, for one, will give her a chance to see what she's made of. As someone who has been on the boards of Transnet, ABSA and a number of other high profile organisations, she certainly knows about political intrigue and sensitivities.

The idea that you have to have a career cop to lead the police is not necessarily true - in the USA they distinctly separate the policy and administration functions of the security services from the day to day operational functions.

Ozgood

Posted 371 days ago
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I also believe that we should have a career policeman as head of the SAPS. However, be that as it may give this woman a chance. I do not think she is another Selebi or Cele.

What irks me is that I see these new heads wearing the uniforms of generals. What did they do to deserve these high ranks? It's just like seeing ordinary people wearing Springbok blazers.

Time will tell if Zuma's choice was the correct one.

As an aside, the genius of Louis XIV of France was that he had the knack of picking the right people for specific jobs. We'll see if Jacob I has the same talent

BlackPepper

Posted 371 days ago
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Pity! At this level, we need technocrats, not political appointees. The demise of the police started with the appointment of Meyer Kahn as Commissioner of Police in 1997, who did absolutely nothing.

Had Phiyega such an outstanding record, both Transnet and ABSA would have been world-class institutions, which they are NOT!

POPCRU obviously welcomes her appointment, as they see it as another opportunity to protect and promote their corrupt members. Her qualifications in HR do not instil a lot of confidence as Human Remains managers can only pacify and compromise. We need someone with a heart of barbed wire and a soul of granite in this position, definitely not a softie.

I'm not sure where we will be able to find a strong leader for the SAPS, lots of integrity, above reproach and enough knowledge to rectify this blot on our democracy.
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KafreeMoneykey

Posted 371 days ago
ABSA is one of the best financial institutions in the world, that is why it attracted Barclays amongst many other interested global inancial institutions who were queing to acquire it. ABSA was not scatthed even a bit by the impact of recession (including other SA financial institutions) and that is why most of the global financial institutions have sent their representative to look into South African banking institutions models, which have proven to be "recession proof"...

AS fro Transnet, it is one the best run government institution (after SARS) and they have a proven track record with regards to infrastracture development (i.e. Port of Ngqura, Richards Bay Coal Terminal, Fuel Pipeline from East Coast to Inland, Freight Train Improvement, Saldan Bay Improvement) and most importantly their drive to uplift local procurement. Their drive to have an intergrated rail infrastructure within the SADC will transform how business is done in the Southern African region, KUDOS TO TRANSNET!

South Africans neh...quick to be negative and criticise unfaily!

Dominic

Posted 371 days ago
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Whilst we applaud the good work that the former has done by bringing down the crime rate,
his sacking should set precedence of zero tolerance for misconduct. The appointment of the woman top cop might not be such a bad move...I am sure the lower rank of Cele are all corrupt hence the decision to appoint someone from outside. I am hoping and praying that she will go in and turn things around.
Hopefully, she is a hard a***s who is going to kick butt where its needed. Anyway, that is my wish!!!




Might not be such a bad thing ... reason I think this is, I am sure the lower ranks of Cele are all corrupt. So selecting from the police would only select someone corrupt. I am hoping and praying that she will go in and turn things around, coming from the outside she will not be corrupt and hopefully she is a hard ass who is going to kick butt where its needed. Anyway that is what I hope!!!

Dominic

Posted 371 days ago
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Sorry, this must have been a typo mistake, just ignore the second paragraph.

Ngelengele

Posted 371 days ago
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It is very strange how as a country we have become so negetive about every proposition put forward. Most people have no idea of the credebilities of the new commissioner. They all base their critisism on the media reports, the very media that vitriorically critisised Zuma's appointment of puplic prosecutor Thuli Madonsela and her apparent lack of experience. How she has come to prove them wrong.

I have no knowlegde of this woman (other than her profile on th net) yet that does not render her incompetent.I believe that Zuma and his advisers did not blind-fouldedly pick her up, there is good quality in her. How about giving her a chance?
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Dada3012

Posted 371 days ago
I agree with you on most parts of your comment, apart from this line: I believe that Zuma and his advisers did not blind-fouldedly pick her up.

With some of his other appointments in the past, one has to just wonder whats in it for him though.

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Ratttex-the-khosi

Posted 371 days ago
No one said she is incompetent. Stop putting words in people's mouths. The meaning of incompetent is where you have done something and proven that you are incompetent. In other words you are not fit for the job. This woman is unsuitable for this position
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Ngelengele

Posted 371 days ago
@Ratttex-the-khosi

I'm sorry I meant "unsuitable" in my arguement above, thanks for the correction and the right meaning.

Now how do you know that this woman is not suitable? State facts please.
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Ratttex-the-khosi

Posted 371 days ago
Fact 1 and the main fact: She has never worked in the SAPS. She will first have to learn the ins and outs of the SAPS, which may take time. We need action and we need it now. First thing that needs to be tackled is the corruption within the SAPS, like the selling of uniforms. Lets see what she can do. No use crying now
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Ngelengele

Posted 371 days ago
@Ratttex-the-khosi

Come-on man. Do you really expect Maria Ramos to know/work ABSA/bank before running it? Do you expect Praven Gordon to know treasury before running it? Do you expect Gill Marcus to run a bank before she becomes a Governer? The list is endless, where leaders have never worked in the institutions their are leading with distinctions. Having done the same job is only but one aspect of a good leader.

Are you assuming she is unsuitable because she has never work at SAPS? Where do you come from?
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Ratttex-the-khosi

Posted 371 days ago
Fair comment there dude.
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olibo

Posted 371 days ago
Unfortunately anyone appointed by Zuma will face criticism from different sectors, particularly from whites. As Simon Kilpatrick says in his book "Racist's Guide to the People of South Africa", white people do not like rules unless they make them. If Zuma had appointed a DA preferred person, the new commissioner would be receiving all the praises.

One of the challenges facing a civilian police commissioner is to win the respect of career police officials who bring years of experience to the profession. I would not go to war being led by a civilian army genera. The police services is unlike a normal government department that appoints a political DG as its accounting officer. Just like in the army, the police services has its own culture and protocal that most civilians would not understand. Rank and experience means a lot, and brings you respect.

Good luck to the new commissioner and please do not call yourself general - commissioner sounds better. The country needs a police service and not a force or army.
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theleweni

Posted 370 days ago
At least someone has the objective view of this appointment, the lady deserve the chance her qualities maybe be of good value to this bioskop created by president and his actors

buddi

Posted 371 days ago
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This lady may be the best thing since sliced bread, and her credentials are excellent. However, not for police commissioner.
The only reason the ANCWL is happy is because she is a woman. They don't really care about experience or such.
Why is it so difficult to find a career policeman to head the SAPS - or are they all the wrong colour? I would rather have a good white cop leading the police, than a woman who has never worked in the police force before. It just doesn't make sense.

Dominic

Posted 371 days ago
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The new lady top cop is a business woman and she is not hungry for success. She is not appointed with the intention to loot public funds, but to curb crime and corruption within the SAPS and in general. Lets give her a chance and hope she is not going to follow in the footsteps of her predecessors.

RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 371 days ago
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Like most here, I am willing to give her a chance but would think that a career police person would be a far better choice. I just hope and pray that she is up to the challenge. It would be supremely cruel of Zuma if he is setting her up to fail.

Calling the poor lady a 'flop' before she has even started is beyond harsh.
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SecretVoice

Posted 371 days ago
Considering his track record what do you predict? The guy is an ignoramius and unlike most of his kind he surrounds himself with idiots.
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RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 371 days ago
Well the lady is not in the stupid category, that is for sure. She seems to have a good grounding in admin ..... BUT her career is marred by (what looks to be) job hopping and she has zero experience of the police. Paper shufflers are not notorious for boosting moral and getting the seasoned police to take her seriously is going to be a difficult task. With that all over and above the Herculean task of trying to get the police service into some kind of order again, I don't envy her the position
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Stirrer

Posted 371 days ago
"Calling the poor lady a 'flop' before she has even started is beyond harsh."

I think this statement was intentionally leaked by ANC spin-doctors to garner opposition support for Riah!

KafreeMoneykey

Posted 371 days ago
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Mme Riah, I would like to wish you all the best in your new role and make the best of it mbokodo yama khosikazi! I would like you to track back to recommendations that were made in 1998 regarding "police reform"...Those are very important recommendations if you are to successfully transform the police force, the rot is from the baggage of the past (pre-democracy) and those from the current dispensation who are just as plainly corrupt. Sort that out then your probability to succeeed would be higher...

Remember there are some elements on the police force that were pro the previous regime and did all the dirty work of and for the previous regime. They are still in the system and are causing as much damage under the radar. As it was proposed in 1998, if we are to heal as a nation, the Police Reform TRC needs to be done.

PS: Mme Riah, do not worry about your lack of experience in the police force, just demonstrate effective leadership and everything will fall into place. Just like Barack Obama, his detractors said he did not have previous experience and military acumen, but through his leadership it was his regime who made progress in capturing their enemies...Do not listen to the by-standers just be committed to your job.

Ratttex-the-khosi

Posted 371 days ago
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Why didnt the Showerspear just appoint Nhlanhla Mkhwananzi on a permanent basis. He was doing a good job. At least if they wanted to appoint a woman, then why didnt they appoint a career police woman, instead of this puppet

OBigOneKenobi

Posted 371 days ago
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Jacob Zuma clearly doesn't want an experienced Police Commissioner. This appointment is completely illogical given the massive crime challenges that the country faces. Perhaps the logic is that he's looking for some nookie.

The prevailing "give her a chance" attitude is just silly. You don't "give people a chance" at this level. It's like giving me a chance at running the Finance ministry.

kksonuk

Posted 371 days ago
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Her first task is not to bring back Richard Mdluli I guess.
She hopefully will be able to order arrest of women raping men out there and visa versa.. (I saw some stats showing more than 100 girls in grade 9 pregnant last year and asked myself:"isn't this more than 100 rape cases under the carpet?).
Administration should be left to administrators and real ground work be like wise. Surely policing need combination of the two. I am waiting to see how all those deserving police (whom some of them sacrificed their duty moral by being loyal members of the organization (maybe they should realize they better remain police than joining politics)) will accept this.

On a different note... this country is on auto pilot... How many reshuffles did this president have in one term? Really if logic is something to go by i.e. that these ministers have to acquaint themselves with operations in new office while at the same time handing over their previous office which they had no mastered yet.... we are surely operating on auto-mode here!

Kortbroek

Posted 371 days ago
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I think we should give her chance. Maybe she will bring professionalism into the police. She should sorround herself with capable people though.

However, this cabinet reshuffling only create instability and uncertainty in the public service...

RobrtMugabe99

Posted 371 days ago
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Dear Madam

Congratulations for your appointment I wish you all the best on your tough task a head of you. One of your responsibilities is to make sure that my wife and daughter are not endangered by criminals who will burglar my house, rape my wife, daughter and kill the husband.

The task you are assigned for is nt for protecting VIPs only but all citizens as enshrined in the Const. As citizens we have hailed Bheki Cele for what he has done to push criminals in the last corner , however we were slapped in the face by political meddling in his career.

I trust you will follow Bheki Celes footsteps in running after criminals, in the shacks,townships,taxi ranks, malls promoting police visibility etc. We dont expect a Commissioner who will be office bound or boardroom visibility. At some stage I thought the Pres will look around SANDF for a capable,discipline soldier to tackle this stubborn criminals terrorising us.

Lastly we need a strong commissioner not in the boardroom but in the field of duty.

mbongwa_mugabe

Posted 371 days ago
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I am not surprised by zuma choice what do you expect from charmer[not state president] the man is clueless and dangerous for our beloved country. This is new dictator who wish to be in power up until he reached 100 years[mugabe style].

m1si2zi3nzo4

Posted 370 days ago
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And that's how Cele and Mdluli managed to escape the public scrutiny. This trick works.

vhonanin

Posted 370 days ago
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I think its time our public sectors start changing their operational process. it has been traumatising for many years for us as ordinary citizens in need of urgent service to have to wait for decades to get assistants. public sectors are not target oriented institutions, they hate to follow-up and taking ownership of their jobs. Having this new commissioner who has been in the private sector will surely boost our service level in the police service. however it might be detrimentally in terms of favouritism as the women always get preference to any kind of abuse hence men do suffer extensively.

mbongwa_mugabe

Posted 370 days ago
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RobrtMugabe99

My beloved brother zuma is playing with fire here,security of our country is at edge of collapsing. You need a real expect on that field trust dude i am damn serious,sefety of our country is more important than zuma securing second term.