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Sun May 19 13:17:42 SAST 2013

Juju, Floyd forced to say sorry to Zille

Quinton Mtyala | 14 June, 2012 21:26
Julius Malema and Floyd Shivambu
Image by: ELIZABETH SEJAKE

Embattled ANC Youth League firebrands Julius Malema and Floyd Shivambu have been forced to "unreservedly" apologise to, and pay DA leader Helen Zille's legal costs after they referred to her as "a racist little girl" and accused her of having sexual relations with her all-male cabinet who they branded her "concubines".

Zille had sued Malema, Shivambu, the youth league and Cape Town ANC councillor Andile Lili for R1.4-million for describing her cabinet as a "group of racist Helen Zille garden boys" and calling her a "racist", "colonialist" and "imperialist" during and after the 2009 elections.

In her affidavit Zille quoted Shivambu as saying, on May 12 2009: "The ANCYL is disgusted by remarks attributed to the racist girl Helen Zille who, when failing to defend her stupid and sexist decision to appoint predominantly white males into her cabinet, attacks the President of the Republic of South Africa."

Shivambu is also reported to have said: "Zille has appointed an all-male cabinet of useless people, the majority of whom are her boyfriends and concubines, so that she can continue to sleep around with them, yet she claims to have the moral authority to question our President."

The former league spokesman is also reported to have said: "If the fake racist girl continues to speak hogwash like she has been doing during these elections, we will take militant action against her."

Malema is reported to have said: "We will never make up with Helen Zille. She is an enemy of the revolution. She's racist and will remain racist. She has a racist agenda of making the Western Cape a province for whites only. If she had her way as premier to declare which people she wants in the province . for sure by now she would have declared the Western Cape for whites only."

Yesterday, Shivambu was not as vocal and, when contacted on his cellphone, said only: "We wish to express no comment about that [the court settlement] and please don't make further inquiries about it."

As part of the settlement the two have had to retract public statements about Zille and will pay her legal costs.

"These court orders are a victory for constitutional democracy and the norms the law sets out in terms of defamation. There is no room for unfounded defamatory statements in our society and this ruling upholds that in clear and strong terms. Politics must be about issues, not gratuitous and baseless insults," said Zille, who had sought answering affidavits in her R1.4-million defamation suit against Malema, Shivambu and Lili.

On April 24, Malema, Shivambu and Lili filed their answering affidavits after the court had set them a deadline to respond to Zille.

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Wort

Posted 338 days ago
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Ohhhh.... the HUMILIATION of it!
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Timbuck9

Posted 337 days ago
Eating HUMBLE PIE always leave a seriously BAD aftertaste in one's mouth...

I believe since Juju has been DEMOTED to Chief Car Guard at the Union Buildings, he will be eating LOADS of Humble Pie....

dawnwalker

Posted 338 days ago
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Yeah. Did you see how SABC 3 News dealt with this. No pic, short bald voice announcement. eNews gave full treatment and Helen Zille insert. SABC=ANC

SecretVoice

Posted 338 days ago
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I am going to enjoy this one!!!

mbongwa_mugabe

Posted 338 days ago
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well done boys for apologising to the new messiah.

Liberal-Soul

Posted 338 days ago
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Looks like Juju's looting is going to finished on court cases. He better finish building that mansion so that he can sell it and pay off the lawsuits that are coming.

Stirrer

Posted 338 days ago
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How humiliating - how can they save face from this insult dealt by the counter-revolutionary courts!
Shame, I almost feel sorry for Foolius and his boyfriend - NOT!

(I suggest they buy a taxi together - Foolius can drive and Floyd can be the sliding door executive.)

deebee

Posted 338 days ago
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It's about time these racists were brought to heel. That said, most of the ANC leadership is deeply racist. They pull the race card at every opportunity - whether it's the Brett Murray affair, questioning Zuma's lavish travel costs, lack of service delivery etc etc. I think Zapiro should do a cartoon showing the ANC leadership raping the poor old race card - they've done it often enough.

SoisSo

Posted 338 days ago
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Personal insults are not a way to go in an open democratic society, these remarks are filthy, irresponsible and Hellen has done a great job bringing them to justice. We all know Hellen is white but that does not automatically translate her into a racist. We know Hellen is a woman leading a great number of men but that does not men she sleeps with them. We know the WP is a prefered white people's place of residence but that deos not mean it's a white's only Province. These two's sense of logic is beyond foolish. We should never allow our society to degrade to a point where any non-ANC element is seen as anti-revolutionary. In fact the ANC has proven many score times that it is a backward organisation -- bent on ruling SA with an iron Bybilonian fist. Julius was right about one thing though --- sadly he was only right when he was outside the warmth of the protective arrogant shell of the ANC --- he was right that JZ has become a mini dictator. I have lost confidence in a government that sing Anglican songs but dance as if they are Protestants --- or the other way around. OK as a point of reference--- in Ermelo, Mpumalanga, the roads can only be described as pathetic; especially in the Township, filth is about everwhere. But the government has built itself a mansion of an administrative office --- in the midst of the sorrounding filth. How do you justify such contradiction? The simple answer is that they are a government for themselves ---- not a government for the people. This government is not people centred but elite centred. They create a lousy class of elites to window dress the real issues facing the Nation. I would give Hellen's DA my vote any day because they have proven that they are a non-racial party, bent to improve the lives of the people they serve.
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Remote

Posted 338 days ago
Well said...
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BobbyBob

Posted 338 days ago
Good points.

Just one issue, I am sure not intended, when you say that because she is white, it does not mean she is automatically racist. So, assuming you are fair about this, if one is black, it also does not mean he/she is automatically racist? So the only cool guys are the coloured ones? Cheers!

KafreeMoneykey

Posted 338 days ago
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What does this have to do with the ANC? The ANC has suspended these gentlemen through proper due-process. Floyd and Malema must apologise as individuals, the court did not say the ANC should apologise and Godzille did not sue the ANC. Take a chill pill people...

To Floyd and Malema - Ayeye! I cannot wait for this one, my PVR is ready to capture the moment! LOL!
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deebee

Posted 338 days ago
You're quite right about it not being anything to do with the ANC - at one level. But remember what the ANC said when they made these remarks? Absolutely nothing, which to my mind is a tacit endorsement of the comments.

It gets worse though: for a party that purports to represent the working class and the poor, they were absolutely silent when Malema refused to debate with Lindiwe Mazibuko calling her nothing but a tea girl. So he considers the people who vote for his party are beneath him and not worthy of his attention - and again, absolute silence from the ANC hierarchy on this, because it suited them at the time.

I'm not calling for the ANC to apologise; what I'd like to see is that they produce leaders who have the dignity to treat political opponents with respect. That, I think, is a long way off.
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Remote

Posted 338 days ago
When they made these remarks they were card carrying members of the ANC and elected officials of the ANC and therefore representing the ANC at these occasions.
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KafreeMoneykey

Posted 338 days ago
@deebee. I agree 100% with your response, politiking is what irks me most in the art of politics. The shear silence from the politicains is not good at all for nation building purposes. Well said!
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Maxi

Posted 337 days ago
deebee
You are wrong when you say Malema was not disciplined when out of order. The ANCYL leaders were always called to order when saying these kinds of things. And most of these disciplinary procedures were taking behind doors as every organization would do with their members. ANC never supported these two guys as they were also a pain inside the organization. The reason they ended being expelled. So stop dragging ANC wherever you feel like. This article is about Zille and these two trouble makers. So leave ANC out of this and your comments must be inline with this article

Romy

Posted 338 days ago
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I hope that other people can learn from this as well. Insulting a person immediately sabotages whatever you are trying to communicate. The insulted person (or people) will focus on the insult and become deaf to the message, and most likely also become defensive. Reasoned debate is the way to go - listen to the other person, then say why you either agree or disagree with their actions or point of view. It takes courage to apologize, and I respect people who can do it sincerely and in person, not through a proxy.
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Maxi

Posted 337 days ago
You are right, insulting other people is not good. I wish Zuma can sue Brett Murray for depicting him with genitals dangling outsite.

RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 338 days ago
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LOL
Talk about adding insult to injury.
You almost feel sorry for the Teletubbie and Uncle Festus. 2012 has turned out to be a bummer of a year for them.
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KafreeMoneykey

Posted 338 days ago
Hey the original Momma! They should have seen it coming, I can't wait for this! I wonder how are they going to do it, via a press conference? Where is it going to be held? At Zoo Lake maybe since they are no longer allowed at the "Revolutionary House"? I can't wait to heat out this two! Big up to Zille on this one! LOL!
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RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 338 days ago
Possibly from within the zoo itself :)
They really should have realised that they shouldn't let their mouths write cheques that their egos couldn't cash - and, boy, did those two have out of control mouths!

Stirrer

Posted 338 days ago
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Watch the semantics in the apology statements - it will probably go something like:

"I'm sorry if you were offended by...."

instead of :

"I'm sorry for offending you..."

SoisSo

Posted 338 days ago
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Sorry Mr Ed.. I will just shortly comment on Zapiro's latest Times Cartoon. You see the man is a genius. I can't get enough of his thought provoking humour. Can anyone see the Spear intelligently disguised as a tip of the Y?

Mike123

Posted 338 days ago
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That must be burning Juju's bum more than the day after eating some REALLY HOT curry.

Mangqeshane

Posted 338 days ago
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FORCED is the operative word. I take it, that they would not have apologised had they not been forced

BobbyBob

Posted 338 days ago
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Oh dear, how do you say "sorry" and still sound macho ?
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Stirrer

Posted 338 days ago
I'm sure they'll think of something!
Possibly during some rally or other, they'll chant:
"NATIONALISE THE MINES NOW, CHANGES AT MANGAUNG, sorry Helen, ECONOMIC EMANCIPATION NOW, ...

Polony_Lips

Posted 338 days ago
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Hau dee egg on dee face.... isa just took muuuch