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Wed Jun 19 06:49:40 SAST 2013

'Give me a chance'

GRAEME HOSKEN | 15 June, 2012 00:06
Mangwashi "Riah" Phiyega, appointed as the first female police commissioner
Image by: Sydney Seshibedi

Newly appointed national police commissioner Riah Phiyega walked away in 2005 from parastatal Transnet with R5-million - R4-million of which was for the termination of her five-year contract.

Though Phiyega's appointment this week was, according to President Jacob Zuma, largely based on her "significant" administrative skills, questions are being raised about just how much skill she will bring to one of the toughest jobs in South Africa.

In Zuma's announcement on Tuesday, he said that the police's financial and management services needed the more focused guidance that Phiyega would be able to give them.

Phiyega will also be responsible for shoring up internal leaks, which have led to a crippling war between senior police managers that has spilt over into the public domain.

But a closer examination of her time at Transnet shows that Phiyega was one of five executives who left the parastatal in 2005 with doubts being voiced about her capabilities.

Employed on a five-year contract as group executive for corporate services, Phiyega ostensibly resigned from Transnet after current Absa CEO Maria Ramos left the Treasury as director-general to become Transnet CEO in 2004.

Phiyega was responsible for strategic direction setting, communications and corporate policy guidance.

Ramos embarked on a massive clean-up of parastatals, which led to an exodus of non-performing executives .

According to Transnet's 2005 annual report, Phiyega had a R1.2-million annual package.

She was given a termination package of R4-million. Transnet's group executives were employed on five-year fixed-term contracts.

Shortly after her Transnet departure, Phiyega was named National Development Agency head.

But again she found herself out in the cold when it was revealed that neither Phiyega nor the agency's board had been told of her appointment.

Then social development minister Zola Skweyiya - who had announced her appointment - was called on to explain the move after the parliamentary portfolio committee on social development discovered the process had yet to be finalised.

Phiyega never spent a day in the National Development Agency office.

During this time, the DA alleged Phiyega's chances had been scuppered after her former Transnet boss, Ramos, had informed the cabinet that she thought Phiyega was "unsuitable" for the job.

Phiyega seemingly recovered quickly, finding a job at Absa a month later as group consultant for BEE and government relations.

But her stint at Absa was short-lived. Ramos followed her to the bank after being appointed CEO.

Then, in 2009, came the announcement that Zuma had appointed Phiyega to chair a panel to review all state-owned enterprises.

It was meant to run parallel to a similar review set up by then public enterprises minister Barbara Hogan. But Phiyega's review replaced Hogan's.

According to an insider who had been asked to work for the panel, Phiyega and her team were "out of their depth" and "chaotic".

"The politically connected Phiyega, who is a nice lady with good qualifications, and her panel worked out of the CSIR's offices and brought in the Human Sciences Research Council to help with project management as well as a group of consultants.

"After two years, no report was ever compiled on the state of SA's parastatals," said the source.

But yesterday, at her first media outing in Pretoria as the country's top cop, Phiyega promised to live up to the task of her new appointment.

"While I have never been a police officer, I say that you do not need to be a drunkard to own a bottle store. "My hand is going to be held and I must be judged on my performance.

"Give me a chance," she said.

Phiyega has promised to come down hard on corruption and to carry out her tasks "diligently".

"It will not be easy and there will be many challenges, but it is something I can do.

"I have faith in my abilities and I am bringing something to the organisation.

"I have plans and these will be delivered on, including building up training and the image of the police.

"I have been entrusted with this job which will need a 'Red Bull' to complete," Phiyega promised.

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SecretVoice

Posted 368 days ago
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Not a track record that installs confidence. as far as I can see she has no credentials for running the police force. In fact she has not run any job successfully in the past. Here we go again!!!!
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MikaelMuchow

Posted 368 days ago
Let’s put it this way: If you were a gangland mobster would you be shaking in your boots right now ?
From the Cape Flats to Hillbrow the skollies must be falling over themselves with gratitude at Zuma’s latest gift to the criminal fraternity.
As far as the rest of us are concerned:
How many more must be needlessly murdered or children raped while this woman learns how to do her job ?
How many law-abiding, tax-paying decent South African citizens will have their lives torn apart by brutal criminality while we give this woman a chance ?

BornintheRSA

Posted 368 days ago
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"While I have never been a police officer, I say that you do not need to be a drunkard to own a bottle store. "My hand is going to be held and I must be judged on my performance.

This press comment is a stupid and thoughtless analogy.

My bias towards giving her a chance is now moving in the opposite direction. Perhaps Zuma has duffed it again.
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Timbuck9

Posted 368 days ago
Both her predecessors were FIRED.... due to Incomptence @ Corruption.... and BOTH were comrades/cadres.....

What makes this one any different????

Rather strange anylogies are always made by these Cadre's...

Will we be hearing any similar to that Cele Clown?

"Stomache OUT... Chest IN"............
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UDFSupporter

Posted 367 days ago
Not "perhaps".... it is ONCE AGAIN Zuma has shown himself to be clueless.

l984

Posted 368 days ago
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While it is difficult to assess her chances, qualities and abilities - what I find most worrying about this appointment is that it may have been decided on mostly because of the widely existing perception (or is it expectation?) that a woman would be more likely to fall prey to the internal dirty tactics and wars, and to yield to pressure, intimidation, influence, manipulation or blatant interference - into submission or silence and becoming a useful tool.

mbongwa_mugabe

Posted 368 days ago
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This confirmed my thinking about zuma[clueless or obsesse with power] the lady has no history of success in her career.She has been move from one place to another because of her inability to perform her duties.Where is Ramos to save us again because it look like she is the only one who can put this lady on her place.Help us God.

zindela

Posted 368 days ago
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I say that you do not need to be a drunkard to own a bottle store

What a crude analogy, uncouth and ill considered; she should rather have said that one need not be a criminal, like Selebi is, to be the commisioner of police...

Let's hope that this lady can do the job that she has been appointed to do?!
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Polony_Lips

Posted 368 days ago
Zindlela, although there is a teeny weeny bit of truth in your thinking, its not quite accurate. Why was Johan VD Merve the most successful police commissioner ever ? He was a policeman at heart.

To understand the plight and needs of a cop you have to have been one.... BUT you need solid management skills... Now in the past thats what happened. U would start a JNR member in the ranks and work your way up.... To Capt - Major or even General.... DUring that time to get your promotion you would have to study Police Administration to get your qualification and do a certain amount of work in the field to get the experience.

Sadly this is what happens when u throw the doors open and give posts away to try and correct inequality... Sadly the cadres don't get it.....

Potenza

Posted 368 days ago
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I'm more interested in knowing what positions she's served in where Maria Ramos was not involved. I'm afraid this article isn't giving us much apart from the fact that there are clear personal issues between them. Not helpful at all
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chrish

Posted 368 days ago
Most likely because one is able to do the job and the other isn't....
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Timbuck9

Posted 368 days ago
Well put chrish!

SoisSo

Posted 368 days ago
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This is an appointment to charm the ANC Women's League. It's meant to bring back the women's support of JZ, very nice old trick in the SA political handbook. Apart from that I would be very concerned to appoint an incurmbent into a high position if she has not suitably demonstrated that she can handle a similar position but were do all the CEOs come from? They were not born CEOs and certainly there is no tree to pick them from. A CEO (or other hight position) appointment is largely a matter of faith --- and many companies are doing it. Unforunately the skeptiscim sorrounding her appointment is based on race --- we have more faith in white male executives than any other person and this is the reason we still have almost all of the JSE listed companies being run by white males. I would say let her run her race --- and get enough support from her inner circle of executives and I believe she can do a great job. Ramos also did not start out a high flyer -- as a white woman she has received a lot of support and guidance and she was not born a leader but was made into one by the environment she fortunately found herself in.
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MikaelMuchow

Posted 368 days ago
You are correct in part, this is just another trick from the ANC handbook. Just like the Spear painting and the Julius Malema debacle, this is just another controversial bone thrown to the masses. And whilst we are all busy gnawing away we are expected to forget about the dire state of the economy, unemployment, abysmal service delivery, schoolchildren with no books, teachers or toilets, etc, etc, etc.
But you are wrong to say that people are not born to be CEO’s, some most certainly are. They demonstrate their ability very early on, excel in school and at university and successfully climb the career ladder all the way to the top.
In the private sector you exist and survive on merit – you have to be on top of your game to efficiently manage your organisation and make it grow.
In government, particularly South African government, your survival is directly proportional to your ability to cow-tow to your political masters and do as you’re told.
Don’t expect any fireworks from this woman – her track-record speaks for itself.
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SoisSo

Posted 368 days ago
I agree with you fully with a slight reservation, leadership is an acquired skill, like playing a piano. It's a subset of a culture --- and unfortunately in SA we don't have that sub culture. Take a look an Moegoe (a think he is a senior judge), he recommended a leadership training to his people but the redicule he received! You see the lack of leadership accross every sphere of our society, and this is largely due to a lack of a vision... People perish for lack of vision. Vision -- the guiding light. Leadership and its accompaniment -vision - are a function of an environment. Taking a lead, taking an initiative --- are phrases we lack in our vocabulary. A reason why many highly educated professionals don't get a raise.... because they believe you have to work hard in school, get a professional qualifiaction --- then sit and wait for your CV to do the talking and walking for you. They are even to intimidated to approach their boss' office and raise the issue of poor pay --- yes they'll complain at the canteen, yes they have the audacity to call their bosses names in private but will never ever call their boss' attention to the fact that the economy has moved on. Big corporates love us South Africans, because we don't fuss ---
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MikaelMuchow

Posted 368 days ago
Mogoeng Mogoeng is the Chief Justice of the Constitutional Court of South Africa, our most senior Judge - the grand master of all judges if you like - at least in title. In actuality he's just another political appointee and deserves all the ridicule foisted upon him for attempting to school our High Court judjes in his own happy-clappy brand of so-called religion.
Remember this: A CEO is held to account on an annual basis - if he/she doesn't deliver they can, in theory, be ousted by a revolt from the shareholders at the AGM. Race or gender has NOTHING to do with it - the ability to manage, grow and deliver a healthy profit does. You will find countless black Africans heavily invested in white-owned and white-controlled businesses.
Why ? Because they are efficient and deliver a solid return on investment.
Would anybody, Jacob Zuma included, invest a cent in this woman's ability to turn the SAPS around ????

muk1

Posted 368 days ago
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Taking this job is the same as taking on the Bafana coach job. Its like turing around the Titanic when iceburgs are just meters ahead. You have my blessings and I hope that you can make this a police force we can be proud of. What you need to do is communicate what your top 5 priorities are and give us constant feedback on meeting these objectives. All the best. Please don't yourself general 'cos you are not one.
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SoisSo

Posted 368 days ago
Good comment..... To me it looks like being given a very old Volksie bus, without a spare wheel, without enough petrol money; to go on a long distance trip. The bus will fail to get there surely and the only thing that will be blamed when it does not get there is the driver's ability to drive. Even if one gave Michael Schuma such a thing,,,, he'll also fail to reach his destination. Especially when the bus is full of arrogant individuals who temper with the navigation system... who constantly judge your driving, who forever debate about the meanings of the dashboard information, who calls their traffic cop friends to look out for an approaching old Volksie that is not licenced. Well good luck madam.

Theye

Posted 368 days ago
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In every successful company when hiring you staff and especially a CEO you look for the best based on qualifications and experience in the particular sector you are involved in to carry on where the last ceo left off. If your company is not doing well and is in a complete shambles such as our police force, you go to extraordinary lengths even internationally to get the right person.
This promotion does not addd up. it once again stinks. No matter how good her intentions are and how well she actually does, it was a bad decision and the innocent in this country will suffer the consequences in blood.
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SoisSo

Posted 368 days ago
I fully agree. Agree. Agree and Agree. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.... This is not a usual CEO appointment ... she is inheriting a rotten organisation that has produced a prisoner and a shamed Cele. They say when the cat is away, the rats play but in this case you have a cat that plays rat and the actual rats are loving it.

EddyDeepfield

Posted 368 days ago
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But a closer examination of her time at Transnet shows that Phiyega was one of five executives who left the parastatal in 2005 with doubts being voiced about her capabilities.

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Can a Leopard change its spots? No, will what is she doing there? You learn at school before you get employment. Another fiasco , Zuma is qualified at, apart from corruption, pointing the wrong people to top positions.

Stirrer

Posted 368 days ago
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Surely Maria Ramos would have been a more inspiring choice for this job?
But I guess capability comes a poor second to political subservience in Jacob's book!

i_stub_born

Posted 368 days ago
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.......You don't need to ingest cyanide to confirm it is a poison....

The worst blemish in her CV is that she has been hand-picked by Zuma, or picked for him by the real puppeteer(s)......A real straw-doll for a puppet...........

RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 368 days ago
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Her track record (or lack thereof) is not going to be her main obstacle. Getting the police men and women behind her is going to be her greatest challenge. When you have an organisation as big as SAPS, office politics become very murky indeed. That is why a seasoned veteran with a strong internal backing and a powerful personality is what is required.

But, what is done is done and I wish her the greatest of success - for all of our sakes
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SecretVoice

Posted 368 days ago
Remember these words. She will fail because she is not qualified to do the job. Things can't get worse in the police. They are already rock bottom. It is just going to take much longer to start the repair job.
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RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 368 days ago
I've been pleasantly surprised by people before now. Providing that she keeps her fingers out of the cookie jar and is able to delegate authority without delegating accountability - she may just make it. Its a long shot but we are really left with no other option but to give her the benefit of the doubt
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Stirrer

Posted 368 days ago
Guess if SelebiChaser is happy, she can't be that bad:

" MAVERICK private investigator Paul O’Sullivan yesterday came out in support of newly appointed National Police Commissioner Mangwashi “Riah” Phiyega."

chrish

Posted 368 days ago
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First thing she should do is to appoint forensic auditors and unleash them on every department across the police force
Second hire a high calibre PR firm to start rebuilding the police services brand
Third hire a quantative statistical genius to build a database about crime statistics across the country (no use fighting crime without the right information)
Fourth - fire all the deadwood
Fifth - invest properly in police academies with the brightest recruits going on secondments to quality police departments in the US, UK, Europe etc
Sixth - process management principles need to be implemented so that the time is minimised from the time a crime is reported to the time it goes to court
Seventh - do away with senior police officers holding defence force titles
Eighth - ensure that all meetings with govt ministers etc are minuted (no off-the-record chats)
Nineth - repair relationship with the Hawks or whatever they are called these days
Tenth - set up an internal affairs unit to deal with crooked cops

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i_stub_born

Posted 368 days ago
.....In other words, she has to prove she has a combination of Eliot Ness and J Edgar Hoover and she can act like Madonsela.........Very, very difficult inside the ANC !!!!!.........

Mangqeshane

Posted 368 days ago
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@ secretvoice, in your opinions who would succeed?
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uitlander

Posted 368 days ago
At least - at the very least somebody who doesn't talk like a drunk tsotsi. that statement would make ANCYL statements come across like those of elder statemen. I find it very hard to believe that this woman did actually say that thing about the bottle store - nobody is that dumb. But if she did then what she obviously means by give me a chance is give me a chance to get another multi-million golden handshake and I'm out of here.

Polony_Lips

Posted 368 days ago
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Why was Johan VD Merve the most successful police commissioner ever ? He was a policeman at heart.

To understand the plight and needs of a cop you have to have been one.... BUT you need solid management skills... Now in the past thats what happened. U would start a JNR member in the ranks and work your way up.... To Capt - Major or even General.... DUring that time to get your promotion you would have to study Police Administration to get your qualification and do a certain amount of work in the field to get the experience.

Sadly this is what happens when u throw the doors open and give posts away to try and correct inequality... Sadly the cadres don't get it.....
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Stirrer

Posted 368 days ago
I agree that a successful police commissioner should have worked his/her way up through the ranks.
(Most will express alarm that your choice of most successful commissioner was in fact handed a 10 year suspended sentence for his role in the poisoning of Reverend Frank Chikane)

m1si2zi3nzo4

Posted 368 days ago
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It does not take rocket science to work in public service. The work is so vague all you do is carry paper moving from one office to another, except in health, education and police work, because these are in the public eye.

The courts are busiest than any industry in the world, meaning that we are a country of criminals, from the top down.

But who said this lady is highly qualified?

Loggenberg

Posted 368 days ago
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:Give me a chance"
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I guess Nathi and Zuma thinks it's easier to control a woman in that position to do their dirty work.
They should have learned from Madonsela that female rottweilers are just as dangerous as males.

benpetzer

Posted 368 days ago
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What a pointless exercise this appointment will be. No doubt the criminals are celebrating.