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Wed May 22 03:23:50 SAST 2013

ANC calls on Zuma to give Cele a new job

THANDO MOKONE and QUINTON MTYALA | 18 June, 2012 00:06
Bheki Cele.
Image by: HALDEN KROG

The ANC in KwaZulu-Natal is in talks with President Jacob Zuma about giving axed national police commissioner Bheki Cele a new job.

Willies Mchunu, the party's provincial deputy chairman and KwaZulu-Natal MEC for transport, community safety and liaison, told delegates on the first day of a two-day policy workshop in Durban on Sunday that the provincial leadership was discussing with Zuma a way for Cele to play a role in politics in the province.

Sources at the workshop said Mchunu had urged delegates to be sympathetic to Cele.

Mchunu reportedly said that both the ruling party's provincial leadership and Zuma recognised Cele's contribution to the province, in which he served as MEC for transport, community safety and liaison, and as national police commissioner, and that his sacking should not mean that he would be thrown into the political wilderness.

The DA has called for criminal charges to be preferred against Cele for his role in the police headquarters leasing scandal.

The DA's Diane Kohler Barnard said she would press for criminal charges against him following the findings of the board of inquiry led by Judge Jake Moloi. The board investigated Cele's fitness to hold public office following the multi-million-rand police leasing scandal relating to two buildings, in Pretoria and Durban, owned by businessman Roux Shabangu.

The board was set up after two damning reports from the public protector on Cele's role in the leasing of to buildings by the police for a total or R1.7-billion.

In November, former public works minister Gwen Mahlangu-Nkabinde was given the chop in a cabinet reshuffle because she had approved the leases. Cele was suspended pending an inquiry.

Yesterday, Kohler Barnard said Cele should have his day in court and answer to the findings against him.

"The DA will be seeking a commitment from Police Minister Nathi Mthethwa to this end or we will take the matter up ourselves," she said. "I'm going to give the police minister a week to do the right thing. If he does nothing, then I will pursue it myself."

But Cele's spokesman, Vuyo Mkhize, said: "They should bring it on. They should hurry and institute those [criminal] charges."

Mkhize said Cele would this week file papers in the Johannesburg High Court challenging his dismissal.

Zweli Mnisi, a spokesman for the police ministry, refused to comment on Cele's future yesterday.

He said that he could not comment on a report that had not been publicly released.

Zuma's spokesman, Mac Maharaj, could not be reached for comment on Sunday.

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SecretVoice

Posted 337 days ago
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Typical ANC behavior. Reward the useless members above anything else especially the delivery of services.
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Timbuck9

Posted 337 days ago
Apparently he will head the CAR GUARD Unit at the Union Buildings..... with Malema.....

Les4uu

Posted 337 days ago
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There are no criminal charges for Cele to answer because he is no longer a public servant and at least they should have subjected him to Police Act deciplinary hearings and all procedures followed but now opening a criminal case will useless and waste of tax payers money.
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SecretVoice

Posted 337 days ago
I disagree. He is corrupt just like his adopted daughter. He should be prosecuted and then join his predecessor in prison.
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Les4uu

Posted 337 days ago
@SecretVoice, you not making any point except typing lot of hot air, support your disagreement chief.

BornintheRSA

Posted 337 days ago
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He mismanaged almost R 2Bn of public money, gets a comfortable pension and the party still wants him to have a job after he is found incompetent at management. He certainly should be pointed off to the political wilderness so that he cannot mismanage anything else. I recall he also defended his friend "Prince" Zulu at one time. Clearly has no clue about management responsibility.
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Les4uu

Posted 337 days ago
@BornintheRSA, Are there charges for Cele answer in your own opinion?

because now the man is fired and least they should hev subjected him to Police or public service disciplinany processes.
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BornintheRSA

Posted 337 days ago
There is enough evidence to submit him to a court of law to answer to charges of lining his friend's pockets with public money. Negligently or deliberately. I just don't think it will happen while Zuma is in power.
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SecretVoice

Posted 337 days ago
Less4uu don't be naive. He and Roux Shabangu had a corrupt plan to lease the buildings at more than double their value. That is why it did not go out to tender and that is why he broke every procurement rule to award the deals to Roux. I wonder what his cut is? Subsequent to this enquiry there are proof of many other leases that he and Roux were involved in. His support to his corrupt adopted daughter also shows his leniency towards the corrupt and dishonest. To think he was the commissioner of police, what a joke.
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Les4uu

Posted 337 days ago
@SecretVoice and BornintheRSA.

I think there are no charges here as much as i dont support corruption and fraud, my advice is go and read the Report of Adv Thuli Madonsela and Judge Jake Moloi you will see that the report by Adv Madonsela state facts amongst them is there are no corrupt elements in Cele and in the report of Judge Moloi there are no facts only technicalities and hearsay from witnesses.

For a case or docket to be opened there must be elements of crime or fraud. please don't mislead people.
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SecretVoice

Posted 337 days ago
Less4uu it is not I that misleads people my friend it is indeed yourself. The facts of this matter are in the public domain there for everybody that wants to see. You obviously don't want to see so I am happy that you continue your existence in blissfull ignorance. Everybody to its own.
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Les4uu

Posted 337 days ago
@SecretVoice, i rest my case i thought there will be in our conversation but you just like Gwede Mantashe and the likes.
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SecretVoice

Posted 337 days ago
Less4uu now you are making very good sense. Why did I not think about it?

sistachick

Posted 337 days ago
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Patience - zuma is still out looking for that top ambassadorial job for his chommie.

RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 337 days ago
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I am not convinced that Cele did accept bribes BUT this BS about appointing people to positions whilst they have clouds hanging over their heads is getting ridiculous now. At least clear his name in a full court of law first and THEN give him another appointment.
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SecretVoice

Posted 337 days ago
Momma where do you come from this morning. Clear his name after all the evidence against him in at least two judicial enquiries? You are asking for the impossible. The guy is a common crook and to think he was in charge of the police is mind boggling .
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Duzula

Posted 337 days ago
I am with you there, poeple are just saying what they think not pointing out FACTS...
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RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 337 days ago
Nobody has bothered to trace the money line. Why? Who does the money line go to?

There is no doubt that Roux was paying SOMEONE so there has to be a record of that. That woman from Public Works who refused to testify knows so the fact that she hasn't been pressured into telling is suspicious in itself.

Until there is proof that Cele was taking backhanders and wasn't just incompetent, we cannot be sure we have the right person. If we can't be sure we have the right person then the right person may just be carrying on with their tenderpreneurial skulduggery.
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Stirrer

Posted 337 days ago
I think that Cele is today's fall-guy for ANC donations through benefactors.
(Similar to how Alan Boesak took the rap for the ANC when he procured their donations from DanChurch!)
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RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 337 days ago
Could very well be.
For sure there is something or someone big at the top of the food chain and I don't think it is Cele himself.

ppss

Posted 337 days ago
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Government under the anc regime - the last bastion of the chronically unemployable.

muk1

Posted 337 days ago
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How can the ANC clean up its house when dirt is recycled. This shows the character of the ANC; bully boys of note.

Thuka-Thuka

Posted 337 days ago
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Insane. What this man has proved is that he does not act with honesty and integrity. That, in and of itself, should automatically discount him from any form of public office forever and that would include a paper-pushing job within the political party. What ethics does this teach our young? "Don't worry, if you muck things up, you'll always land on your feet". Rubbish.
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m1si2zi3nzo4

Posted 337 days ago
I agree with those who say Cele has no charges to answer directly. I am afraid that we always focus on the pawns here, and thus ignore the king. We keep falling in the same trap, time and time again. Shaik had to be sacrificed for the 'good cause'. Mbeki had to follow. All must get out as soon as the scrutiny becomes intense. This 'historic' mission has seen many shifted from the public money-Nkabinde, Nyanda, Yengeni, Cele, you name them.

All never face a judge, and are unwilling to do so, to clear their names. So does the king Ali Baba himself. We need to sharpen both our brain and eye, to save ourselves from complete tyranny. How long can the country keep up with this hit-and-miss, without buckling?

Wort

Posted 337 days ago
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So, if you sack a man for dishonesty and corruption, why would you want to give him another job? You know how dodgy he is. Rather hire an honest man.

danny.archer3

Posted 337 days ago
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"ANC calls on Zuma to give Cele a new job" Of course they do! Facking criminals!

lancelotlovejoy

Posted 337 days ago
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Cele is either corrupt or incompetent, why on earth would you want to keep him around, he does no credit to the ANC or the nation.
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JeanCampbell_Collen

Posted 337 days ago
I agree with you. It would be far better for the ANC to distance themselves from corrupt and incompetent people rather than try to find new positions for them. Only then will the ANC be able to change my (and many other people's) perception that the organisation is filled with fat cats with fancy cars who have no interest in the welfare of South Africans, but every interest in enriching themselves.
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mbongwa_mugabe

Posted 337 days ago
He is good candidate to remove zuma not this Motlanthe.

mbongwa_mugabe

Posted 337 days ago
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For my own personal reasons i need Cele back in the ANC, zuma must not be allow to carry on as he please otherwise the country is leading to dictatorship.
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Stirrer

Posted 337 days ago
"For my own personal reasons i need Cele back in the ANC..."

Hello, Roux!

PeterHarris

Posted 337 days ago
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They are running out of people without questionable moral histories to put into public office. Laughable. And by laughable I mean first world countries where there's 5% unemployment rate (and it's a crisis) are laughing at us as we descend into another failed African state. Tragically.

Shongweni

Posted 337 days ago
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Either the ANC gives a sparrow fart about corruption, or they are all corrupt to the core or this man has dirt on all of them and is able to call the shots. If you can think of any other scenarios I'd love to hear them.

mbongwa_mugabe

Posted 337 days ago
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Stirrer

Wrong i am not anc card holder or any other party cos Roux must be anc card holder.
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RobrtMugabe99

Posted 337 days ago
Its though Baba Cele the man you tried to please is no where next to you, he has gone to other Ministers, thats how life is , tell us how are you going to mantain your beuatiful wife otherwise Roux will take her, how are your going to mantain your bond , its nt raining its pouring, because its you who is blind , we dont know what you want from business people, the govt was paying and giving you all benefits you were nt enough you wanted more , you see devilish, you are old but behave like school boys