No more tax millions for Zuma's wives, says ANC
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THERE will be no holy cows in the ANC leadership race - not even President Jacob Zuma's four wives.
That much is clear in the latest salvo from the Eastern Cape ANC: it wants the cost to the nation of the wives to be discussed at the ruling party's policy conference next week.
On Monday, as a special meeting of the provincial general council wrapped up in East London, members of the ANC's economic transformation commission supported a proposal that taxpayers should have to support only the first wife.
"What was made clear during the discussions was that, as taxpayers, we cannot afford to continue financing so many wives,'' said one of three delegates to the commission who spoke to The Times's sister paper, the Daily Dispatch.
"Only wife number one should get benefits from the state. Our understanding is that when [you] a man decides to have more than one wife, you are able to support the others. Then deal with it."
The delegate said the meeting felt strongly about the issue.
"We supported [the proposal] and if anyone for any reason suppresses some of our recommendations, there are channels to take the proposal forward."
Another delegate said a member of the ANC Veterans' League first raised the issue, arguing that the spousal benefits for a president's wives should be reconsidered.
The proposal to remove the benefits of Zuma's second, third and fourth wives, will be tabled at next week's ANC policy conference in Midrand, provided it receives support at Friday's special Eastern Cape executive council meeting.
If it is adopted by the policy conference, and later endorsed by the elective conference in Mangaung in December, then only Zuma's first wife, Sizakele Khumalo, would be entitled to spousal support.
The commission did not give feedback to delegates on Monday, denying the conference the right to adopt or reject the proposal as a provincial policy recommendation.
ANC provincial spokesman Mlibo Qoboshiyane said: "The nature of deliberations at the [general council meeting] inspired prolonged engagements, which meant we didn't have enough time for the commission to make presentations to the plenary."
Zuma's support in the Eastern Cape is not clear-cut. Opponents in the ANC who are lobbying for him to be replaced as party president by his deputy, Kgalema Motlanthe, have influence in some regions.
Zuma's wives have been regarded as a contentious issue since he became president in 2009, in particular the increased resources allocated as their "spousal budget".
In October last year - before Zuma took a fourth wife - it was revealed that about R700000 had been budgeted for car hire for his spouses over two years.
When Zuma married Bongiwe Ngema this year, his office dismissed speculation thatan extra burden would be placed on taxpayers.
The Presidency said: "The rules allow for partnerships to be recognised. As such Ngema already has secretarial support provided for by the Presidency, so there will be no change in support arrangements."
According to the Presidency, the budget for the presidential spousal support office was R15.5-million in the 2009/10 financial year.
This was almost double the cost to taxpayers during Thabo Mbeki and Kgalema Motlanthe's terms in office. Spousal support in 2007/08 was R8.4-million and R8-million in 2008/09.
Earlier this year, Presidency spokesman Mac Maharaj said it was "grossly incorrect" that taxpayers paid for the wives' upkeep.
"The spouses pay their own living or household expenses, be it food, mortgages, lights, water and so forth. Nothing is paid for by the state in the spouses' four households. They live in private homes."
The wives did not have constitutionally defined roles or obligations, so they were not remunerated by the state, Maharaj said.
"There are, however, expectations that spouses will provide support to the president in the execution of his duties, and specifically so at state and official functions.
"The Presidency therefore provides reasonable administrative, logistical and other support ."
Zuma has married six times. His other current wives are Nompumelelo Ntuli and Thobeka Mabhija.


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Posted 364 days agodavid.makgopa2
SueKruger
GregSmith
madlapha
Posted 364 days agoMike123
Posted 364 days agoRatttex-the-khosi
ILoveTheTruth
Gibraltar
Duzula
Posted 364 days agocANCerSurvivor
Ozgood
They have joined the ABZ party!
Chichi7
RSA.MommaCyndi
Posted 364 days agoAs crazy as I find the practice, if it works for them then I have no problem with it. I just don't see why I should pay for it. If they want to have 5 wives then they should be able to afford it and if they want to have 25 children then they had best make a plan to afford that too. I can see no reason why I should be penalised for being responsible if they are not
m1si2zi3nzo4
But still, in a democracy, this is complete duper, unless women are allowed to vote against their husbands, if they chose to do so. But still this remains sexual sadism, from whatever angle one looks at it. Whatever value there was in it, it no longer applies.
Stirrer
Posted 364 days agosistachick
Gibraltar
I think you are naive by choice. Our president made sure he stole as much as he could in his first 12 months as president and made sure his family got all they can. Now he has tapered off in syphoning of the state and slush funds and feels he is holier than all. lol
Dont worry about affordability, if he does not go to jail, he will be able to afford another 4 wives till he he is well over a 100. tsk tsk tsk
InExile
Posted 364 days agoMusaMahlangu
Posted 364 days agoBobbyBob
RSA.MommaCyndi
To be honest, if you can't afford to have multiple wives then you shouldn't.
Ratttex-the-khosi
Territc
bugsy
BobbyBob
Posted 364 days agoOzgood
How many of our top (white as well as black) business men have more than one mistress and nothing is said. Of course it's because these business men pay for the support of their concubines.
I am not sticking up for Zuma nor for the excuses of his obsequious spokesman, the Maharaja. I do not like either.
Do you remember when Zuma became president three years ago, there was a photo of him on the front page of The Times with the caption THE SURPRISING PROMISE OF JACOB ZUMA
I also say that "The Spear" was a gross offense to public decency. Zuma said that it impugned his dignity but this he did himself by his own behaviour
BobbyBob
A lot is said and ,if found out, there are serious consequences.It is not an accepted practise.
PierreMare
manga2
Posted 364 days agoTerritc
foxie123
TshidisoNtuli
Posted 364 days agomanga2
Posted 364 days agoZuma's wives are all first ladies, as long as he's the President of RSA. Dont trample on their constitutional right just to get at Zuma.
Once we do that we'll be setting a terrible precedence and we'll soon call for a referendum on the land question and subsequently change the constitution re land isseas and nationalisation.
RSA.MommaCyndi
foxie123
Jajes
Posted 364 days agoMaxi
ProgressiveAfricanDemocrat
Posted 364 days agoAnd now the Eastern Cape ANC is questioning taxpayers' money being spent on Jacob Zuma's spouses. This is leadership and a cherry on the top of a province now focussed on setting an example to the rest of the ANC. Keep it up, comrades!
RobrtMugabe99
There is no politics with Malema in actual fact he has ran out of support, the NEC was a yard stick for Mongaung
MusaMahlangu
Posted 364 days agoMgwijikhwebu
IHateThem
Posted 364 days agoPierreMare
buddi
And you believe him?
ProgressiveAfricanDemocrat
Mgwijikhwebu
Posted 364 days agoI guess children for politicians like ministers have certain benefits. They also need to limit the number of children to as maximum of 4 or 5, for consistency and keeping in touch with the western values which the ANC Eastern Cape has embraced.
Jimbo56
Posted 364 days agoBlack-Moses
ProgressiveAfricanDemocrat
swona1
Posted 364 days agom1si2zi3nzo4
sibusisomathonsi
Posted 364 days agom1si2zi3nzo4
TomTheron
Posted 364 days agoKitty.cat
Posted 364 days agoDufdufDj
Posted 364 days agoSeriously now, it is not a crime to not want Zuma anymore. Just campaign for your guy. Tell me what it that he / will do differently from Zuma. Tell me factually and calmly where Zuma has erred in implementing the 2009 ANC Manifesto. Do not get personal and tribalistic.
The anti Zuma ANC cannot have its cake and eat it. The things they are pointing out now were there in 2009. Put your guy out there. Point his good side, and let's decide. Remember, there is life after Mangaung. You will still work with comrade Zuma after Mangaung, even if he is just recalled to a branch secretary, you will still want him to implement the programme of the victors in that branch!
m1si2zi3nzo4
Stirrer
Mr Mbeki's spouse cost the state R8m. Mr Zuma's spouses costs the state R15m. A total extra of R7m (or 88% increase). Unbelievable - definitely not a non-issue!
buddi
Maths word sums are definitely not your strong point.
m1si2zi3nzo4
Posted 364 days agoEven so, more than one is contrary to democracy, because in the old African practice, women were generally sub-servient to their husband, and were never allowed a role in a village's affair. Understandably so, because they could be lost to other tribes, through marriage.
Democracy is about an individual expression, on his or her affairs should be managed, which they pay for. If this were not the case, anyone could simply marry all or most women in a village, and win any election - which would count for many dictatorships that make our history. Just as everywhere else, this was the case, but in democracies wars are increasingly proving a lack of grey matter. People no more hero-worship dictators or 'conquerers' old. We are now realizing that life does not need heroism, but life-giving and sustaining leadership. Even animals do not destroy their own species. Only humans do.
It cannot be that only the 'culture' that satisfies men, though phony, must be the one that is respected. Men have always sought to preserve their power of dominating everyone else, and come up with many innovative ways to do so. Such that it is up every man, capable of reasoning, to strive for societal progress. To do so will require shedding all oppressive old practices, even if this is unpopular.
Times are moving so fast that it will soon be possible for one family to live in different parts of the world, physically, but be able to communicate in each and every second. The single wife marriages, will still be tested by the current knowledge age. Let's discard all backward and taxing old practices.
Stirrer
Posted 364 days agom1si2zi3nzo4
Posted 364 days agoPOST94
Posted 364 days agoi_stub_born
Posted 364 days agoZuma has demonstrated time and time again he has no insight, responsibility, leadership and much less ethics or moral. He is the perfect leader for an organization of disorganized crime imposed to the nation by a corrupt 'intelligentsia'..........The ANC branch in question was aware of this, and they did not have any problems at the beginning, why this change of heart now?...because they are not going to make us believe all of a sudden they have become ethical and moral.....................
Chichi7
Posted 364 days agoHowever, the trick here is marry as many wives as one can afford not as many wives as the tax from the nation allows.
We already have too many things that needs money to resolve, the least of our problems should be finding the budget to feed the many Zuma wives. This budget must come out of the president himself.
Frankly, this topic is 3 yrs too late.
m1si2zi3nzo4
Where can get this 'african culture' that allows a man to marry as many wives as he can afford? If one animal occasionally strays away from the rest, can we call that a habit of the species?
Maxi
For your information, polygamy is not practiced only in Africa. Arabs and some people in America also practice it. So do research before labeling something to be African.
m1si2zi3nzo4
Maxi
Still you are wrong because it is not an African culture but a believe of handfull African race. Not all Africans believe or practice polygamy. So in short I can say stop generalising because polymamy is not a general African custom.
JerryYatriq
Posted 364 days agoAs far as pay and tax are concerned, he should not be entitled to any additional pay or financial support in respect of his multiple wives.
He should be entitled, in law, to have a tax rebate for any of his dependent children but only for those truly dependent on him.
He should be charged fringe benefits tax on each of the luxury vehicles used by him or in his entourage.
In turn, each of his wives, if they have independent income should be entitled to tax rebates only in respect of her individually won dependent children.
m1si2zi3nzo4
PolyTix
Posted 364 days agoAll that De Klerk's wife was entitled to was a private secretary and if she needed transport it was supplied from the Government Garage, in either Pretoria or Cape Town. She never received an allowance as such, but should she for instance give a tea party it was paid from a general entertainment account. When she accompanied FW on official duties she was entitled to privileges associated with the trip.
The zuma-wastage is a flippen disgrace. R700,000 just for car hire over two years = ±R1000 per day.!!!!! and then in a country where 70% of people live under the breadline. Disgusting.
boy1466
Posted 364 days agodevanzlive
Posted 364 days agoIHateThem
m1si2zi3nzo4
Posted 364 days agoEven more unbearable, is the use of the constitution, only when it is necessary to justify abuse of the public funds. In the past theft was justified as an act of 'repossession', and the destruction of property (used by the oppressed) was justified as a form of 'struggle' against apartheid. We must come to a point where we interpret the constitution for what it seeks to achieve - the well-being of every citizen.
This is hard because the constitution promotes humanity, which is unnatural to human actions, but the world will be a better place to live in, when human 'not cultural' values are considered. Cultures were reactions of different tribes to different natural conditions they were confronted with, at different periods in their lives. They were creative, but not natural. We cannot turn back the clock to those practices, every time we mess up, because we are lazy to think creatively.
DufdufDj
Posted 364 days agoMust I spell it out to you? If each of Zuma's wives were paid the same as Mrs Mbeki then we will be paying R48m. Put it another way, if the next president has one wife, there is no reason to spend more than R2.5m on her. We have proof it can be done.
Mgwijikhwebu
Posted 364 days agoSo now why would the ANC-EC spending energy on a non-issue like this one? The only answer to this would be an intention to attack Zuma as a person. No other reason. As correctly pointed by one of the bloggers, ANC-EC is clueless when it comes to leadership matters. The province is a mirror image of the ANC national state of affairs, it is in parlysis. No wonder they have now resorted to such petty issues.
I hope the rest of the provinces will reject this childish proposal outright without wasting anytime in debating it.
OMG, the ANC-EC does not take real issues affecting this country seriously.
JohannSchalkwyk