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South Africa's education system is spiralling out of control and failing millions of pupils.
From failure to deliver textbooks to unpaid bills and corrupt education officials, not much has been achieved since 1994.
Former health minister Barbara Hogan yesterday added her voice to the growing list of critics lambasting the failures of the country's education system.
Speaking at non-governmental organisation Equal Education's national conference yesterday, Hogan yesterday urged young people to mobilise and "start holding government accountable", adding the 1976 Soweto uprising showed pupils' strength.
"It cannot be said that just because things were bad in apartheid doesn't mean we cannot say things are bad now. Democracy always has to be strengthened and fought for," she said.
"Rather than just holding marches, marches and marches, students need to find much more innovative ways of organising. If money is not flowing properly [in an education department], they need to go to the financial office and demonstrate."
Hogan's comments come two weeks after Justice Minister Jeff Radebe called the non-delivery of textbooks to Limpopo schools a "national shame" - and on the day that saw several dramatic events unfolding in education.
A Limpopo clerk was arrested for dumping hundreds of textbooks as the national department prepared to defend itself against a lawsuit brought by nine members of the African Publishers Association to stop it from delivering books not selected by schools.
The association claims in court papers that catalogues had been sent to schools by publishers for teachers to select those they wanted. But when the national department took over, it wanted to supply the schools with its own choice of books.
The matter was removed from unopposed motions to allow the department time to file opposing papers.
In Eastern Cape, the provincial education department - which is under administration - took over the ordering of textbooks after Section 21 schools defaulted on payments to service providers, leaving it with a bill of more than R120-million.
SA Booksellers Association president Simphiwe Molosi said though he welcomed the department's plans, he was concerned about its procurement processes.
"We would not like a situation in which fully fledged booksellers are going to be put out of business. This is our main concern. We know about sinister forces that normally operate in Bhisho. Our fear is that we don't want to see catering people delivering books," Molosi said.
The DA yesterday said an inspection at a warehouse in the Port Elizabeth district had revealed that thousands of textbooks were being returned by schools.
According to DA Eastern Cape education spokesman Edmund van Vuuren, Xhosa pupils had been sent Sotho workbooks, while Afrikaans- and English-speaking pupils had received Xhosa workbooks.
"A lack of consultation from the national department's side and a chaotic workbook delivery process by the provincial department has led to hundreds of schools in the PE district alone being left without any literacy and numeracy workbooks for children in Grades R to 7," Van Vuuren said.
"Once again, the education department has put the future of thousands of children at risk through this blatant disregard for their education needs.
"The books that have been ordered are only applicable for this year, meaning that public money will also go to waste."
Pupils attending Equal Education's first national congress in Johannesburg this week had harsh words for the Minister of Basic Education, Angie Motshekga, saying she did not care about them or education .
John Orr Technical High School's Grade 8 pupil, Bahle Lolwana, said: "The minister is not listening to us. She doesn't care about other people's needs."
His brother, Bathandwa, called for Motshekga to step down.
"She should resign. I think the minister thinks we are a bee buzzing in her ear. What we want are minimum norms and standards. She promised us that."
Said Grade 12 pupil Nontsikelelo Dlulani of Westridge High School in Mitchells Plain: "She doesn't care how we feel and is not taking our rights into consideration."
Yolanda Fani of Luhlaza High School in Khayelitsha, Cape Town, said: "She doesn't know how we feel. Her children were in a good school. She doesn't want us to have a brighter future. Today, I want the minister to be accountable."
At the end of the congress tomorrow, pupils will decide on whether they will call for officials involved in the Limpopo textbook scandal to resign, according to the NGO's general secretary, Doron Isaacs.
He said they would also call on President Jacob Zuma to appoint a judicial commission of inquiry to look into the Limpopo textbook scandal.
There are at present three separate inquiries into the saga.
Isaacs said: "A judge must look at what went wrong with delivery. This may seem like a serious move but nothing is more serious than millions of learners without textbooks. The government needs to answer what went wrong and why this happens. If it doesn't move to answer questions, we will lose confidence in it." - Additional reporting by Sapa


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Posted 319 days agoDaffy
Posted 319 days agoTimbuck9
Then again.... the ANC are breeding their voters "ILLITERATE" for the 2014 elections and BEYOND...
Loggenberg
philnike
It is not about the colour of your skin, but who actually cares about really doing great things for our people to uplift and give value to the people of South Africa- not just to use as a means to line their own pockets and then to discard their voters as they see fit.
Government should be serving the needs of our people and develop this country to be the best it can be which could be some of the best in the world.
Are they ?
Judge for yourself and then put your X next time at your own peril .......again .......
radkomenchev
Posted 319 days agoBAMBINA
RSA.MommaCyndi
I still maintain that politicians should be forced to live in the poorest areas of their constituencies, make use of public transport, hospitals and schools. Then maybe they would stop with their pathetic ivory tower mentality and wake up to what real life is
Jimbo56
RSA.MommaCyndi
Pardon?
I think you may have missed the whole concept of democracy being 'of the PEOPLE, by the PEOPLE and for the PEOPLE'. Politicians are paid employees of the PEOPLE they are not gods and godesses or King Mswathi
Jimbo56
But since our politicians are not voted for as individuals, but rather placed by the party on the party list and the party is voted for, SA politicians are only accountable to a faceless mass of people not to a known group of people with a localised geography, the more traditional use of the word constituency. They don't see themselves as accountable to a body of voters, since they were insulated from the election process as individuals by being on the party list. If you're at position 175 and the party wins 175 seats, you're in. If they win 174, you're not. You didn't have to go campaign against other candidates in a known area.
RSA.MommaCyndi
Jimbo56
PR sounds great, and certainly does away the gerrymandering that goes with one electee per constituency no matter how many electors are in that constituency - rural vs urban inequalities come to mind on that score. But PR brings with it its own problems, in our case this total lack of accountability.
radkomenchev
Posted 319 days agoJoeV
Posted 319 days agoGet rid of her immediately and put a professional into the position.
BornintheRSA
Black-Moses
Timbuck9
Posted 319 days agoEverywhere she goes... there is CHAOS!!!
Corruption Rules in South Africa!
CecileKiley
Posted 319 days agoRSA.MommaCyndi
Posted 319 days agoI was under the impression that our MECs were answerable to our Minister and it was up to our Minister to ensure that the MEC did their job. At the moment, it seems like the Minister has ZERO authority or accountability and her only duties are to make excuses, sleep in parliament and spend obscene amounts of taxpayers' money.
AfroTai-CHI
Posted 319 days agoCecileKiley
Posted 319 days agoKafreeMoneykey
@CecilKiley, can you please call Waterstone College in Kibler Park and ask them how do the managed to turn back scores of black children and claimed that there is no space but then managed to accept white kids where the space suddendly was available? You may want to try this with many more other so called white schools...Why is there a push against integration?
KafreeMoneykey
Dear ED, @Timbuck9 comment is insulting and I take offence. Can you kindly remove it? Its actually perpetuating the apartheid mentality that blacks are less of a human than whites. I do not want to start stooping to end up hurling unnecessary insults on this lovely forum of ours.
Agreed -ED
KafreeMoneykey
Posted 319 days agoSmaiza
KafreeMoneykey
RSA.MommaCyndi
?? they can fire the President but they can't fire the Minister of Basic Education ??
BAMBINA
Posted 319 days agoGermanMouser
Posted 319 days agoPoor people must just forget about getting better life for all, there is no better life for all it’s about whom do you know. There will never be a better life for all as long as we still have stupid things like these happening. Basic Education system stinks.
KafreeMoneykey
Sta_Brown
Posted 319 days agoWho are they goin to blame now, apartheid was not part of this...
SuiGeneris
No-one is to blame - One can not blame those who are unconscious !!!
Francis
Posted 319 days agoDo you mind that I answer your question why black school children are send away at Waterstone College?
The answer is simple: SCHOOL FEES".
The yearly fee for a grade 11 is R 42.030 and for grade 12 R 40.440.
If the parent doesn't have a yearly income of respectively R 1.260.900 and R 1.213.200, this parent is legally entitled to apply for EXEMPTION FOR PAYING SCHOOL FEES to such an extend that:
Parents earning below respectively R 420.300 and R 404.440 DOES NOT HAVE TO PAY SCHOOL FEES AT ALL.
For an income falling in the " State Table" (maximum-minimum yearly salary) the Exemption for paying school fees must be legally applied by the school according the South Africa Schools Act 84 of 1996.
Since 1996, the "elite schools" misled, threatened and manipulated court cases by specialised lawyers to squeeze the school fees out of the parents not to keep the level a quality academic tuition but to maintain the superficial label of "the haves".
More middle class ppl became informed about this abusive mentality from these model C and Gazetted schools and approached the Courts successfully.
CALS (Centre Applied Legal Studies) can inform you about the legal way to go without throwing your money away on lawyers fees. (Google CALS)
Going further with my answer.
Due to the decline of education in South Africa, black middle class ppl sent their children to the prior 1994 white schools and many of these schools raised their fees to ridiculous levels what created the opportunity to "select" their learners. This time not by colour but but by the INCOME/STATUS of their parents.
KafreeMoneykey
In this instance I am talking about the exclusion of individuals from well paid parents. Not all was lost though as the other high calibre "Catholic" schools in Mulbarton and Glen Vista accepted the black kids with no issues at all. They are in their Grade 11 and rank within the top performers in their respective schools. There were all sort of excuses given when they were declined.
@Francis...I need here more of your views on other topics! I really enjoyed your commentary
Francis
Although I have a sweet taste, this bloody government obliges me often to eat pickles giving my reactions a not too diplomatic feeling.
And to compliment you,
like food, I met here in South Africa (beautiful country!) a wide diversity of people, from supper excellent and honest to.... better not to tell at a first contact.
If you wish, my hatch is wide open and I am not bothered with some draught. We can also go on a more personal manner via my email: fcve4u@gmail.co
I believe that nothing cannot be solved.
Smaiza
Posted 319 days agoSection 100 of the South African Constitution state that, when a province cannot or does not fulfill an executive obligation in terms of the Constitution or legislation, the national executive may intervene by taking any appropriate steps to ensure fulfillment of that obligation.
The Minister has intervene since the province did not have funding or budget and they use the national budget to buy textbooks... I dont understand why you people want the Minister to be axed.
Most South Africans dont understand the South African Constitution and how it works...
I wish the Government can scrap the Tender system and start its own bookshop or use government printing to produce books for schools since it makes them to fail cause they to do business with ghost or certain parties agencies.
RSA.MommaCyndi
Smaiza
Please read the constitution first before you criticizes other people's comments.
People like you and the fellow commentators claim to be educated but never bored to read the constitution and understand it very well.
You also failed to analyzed a simple scenarios... I always read your comments you always attack without asking what went wrong...
RSA.MommaCyndi
Are the Minister and the NEC supposed to put in measures to ensure the ish doesn't hit the fan or do they just wait until it flies all over before they are allowed to do anything?
Smaiza
The constitution section 92 does say that the Deputy President and Ministers are responsible for the powers and functions of the executive assigned to them by the President, but their power in provincial level are limited hence if the province fails section 100 will apply.
RSA.MommaCyndi
I am completely confused by this all.
Over the weekend Doc Aaron had an interview and it appeared that the ministers have very little power over executive decisions within provinces. Now my understanding was that the various MECs were directly under the relevant ministries and they had to implement systems according to the ministerial directives. i.e. the chain of command had the Minister at the head.
Is it political sensitivities that create the problem where the National Government is reluctant to monitor and enforce at Provincial level or is it a system shortfall?
Rudeguy
Posted 319 days agoYou are as ill informed as the rest of the ANC supporters out there.
You cannot and will not believe that they are the most uneducated corrupt and useless bunch of morons, that are purely in government to enrich themselves and their equally useless friends and families.
Wake up and smell the coffee!
Smaiza
The is no policy in the ANC that say people must still....there are people including (DA, IFP, COPE) doing it at their own will and some of the are being arrested...Its not ANC doing corruption but people...
ANC just guilty for issuing Tenders to people that we think they will assist in good governance and service delivery...
Polony_Lips
U mustn't sniff the Zinger sauce on your KFC its messing with your brain.... First of all, ANC supporters will vote for a potato if it was placed on a poster with an ANC logo... You're sheeple... All led by your nose and your comment shows you know no better.
If something doesn't work, you give someone else a chance to fix it..... Not you lot... No !!!! U keep the vote ANC needless to say that they are the most corrupt buffoons under the sun.
The education system...... screwd
The police........ screwd
Medical and health.... screwd
Local municipalities.... screwd
Housing..... screwd
Who runs it all..... Ummmmmmm ANC cadres ! And you vote for them because the offered you a Tshirt, a braai pack and promised you a job ! U have no vision.... You're stuck following those who want to enrich themselves
Smaiza
Hows going to fix the things you mentioned above?
SuiGeneris
If they were competent, it would have been done right in the first instance !
How much money, time and and energy are wasted because nothing gets done right the first time and have to be done over and over !!!
Time for you to accept the fact that they cant fix things or get anything to work properly because the majority are beyond incompetent !!!
GermanMouser
Posted 318 days agobut the leadership within; Let’s face it, revolution is coming & there is nothing we can do to stop it as long as we still have egotistical Ministers who don’t listen to any one, whose incompetency doesn’t allow them to even take a constructive criticism.
Tokolosh
The country must be saved from the old revolutionaries (current ANC) and it will be called the second revolution!
Sta_Brown
Posted 318 days agoYou really took after your name and sound just as stupid
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