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Sun May 19 06:51:43 SAST 2013

Why the people are angry

NASHIRA DAVIDS | 29 August, 2012 00:09
Striking miners. File photo.
Image by: SIPHIWE SIBEKO / REUTERS

Water and sanitation were two of the main triggers of service-delivery protest, SA Human Rights Commission deputy chairman Pregs Govender said yesterday.

Speaking at the launch of the commission's provincial water and sanitation hearings in Johannesburg, she said the killing of 34 Lonmin workers at Marikana had re-focused the spotlight on living and working conditions, and had brought urgency to the holding of provincial "Water is life; sanitation is dignity" hearings.

The Department of Performance Monitoring and Evaluation recently found that 16million South Africans did not have access to sanitation and that R50-billion was needed to remedy the situation.

Govender said many people who took part in service- delivery protests claimed that the police had been heavy-handed and did not respect their right to peaceful protest.

"The 'shoot-to-kill' statement of government leaders has often been used to justify criminalising people who are poor," Govender said.

The hearings were prompted by the "unenclosed toilets saga" in both DA and ANC municipalities.

She said this was an indication that decision-makers did not respect, listen to, or value people in poor communities.

"In the run-up to the 2010 local government elections, the commission received two complaints about municipalities that had built toilets without enclosures in local municipalities in Western Cape and the Free State. In line with our mandate, the commission investigated these complaints and ruled that both the DA- and ANC-led municipalities had violated the rights to dignity, privacy, and a clean and healthy environment," she said.

But the commission also found that millions more were in the same boat.

It asked the Department of Human Settlements to report on the progress in eradicating the bucket system of sanitation .

The Department of Performance Monitoring and Evaluation found that 84% of households in Mpumalanga lacked sanitation facilities.

The provincial hearings will begin in Gauteng and run until November. A national hearing will be held in March.

Govender said many mining companies were yet to take responsibility for the consequences of their commercial activities.

She said the Bench Marks Foundation had found that local communities "bear the brunt of harmful social, economic and environmental consequences" of mining activity.

The foundation has asked the commission to investigate the effect of mining on the supplies of clean water.

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AWA

Posted 262 days ago
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R50 billion needed?
R25 billion to do the job and R25 billion for handouts.

mugabe1652

Posted 262 days ago
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People are angry because of anc inability to control our economy and the fact they[anc] allowing the economic oppression to continue.
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mugabe1652

Posted 262 days ago
QPCLCD308

I surprised by the fact that thetimes ED is allowing your cemments here.
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QPCLCD308

Posted 262 days ago
Whatever Mugabe....What you gonna do!!! You are only ''internet trolling'' with absolutely none significance at all!?, those ANC leeches does not even ''think'' of you in their ''luxury'' sleep, they do not even have just a rare slight ''feelings'' about you and your permanent perpetual poverty...poor idiot!!..lol..!
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RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 262 days ago
QPCLCD308

What an absolutely ridiculous, bigoted and sickening comment!

Now I am completely convinced that you are actively trying to chase voters away from the DA as an option. Who do you really work for?
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Wiseguy

Posted 262 days ago
@MommaC....another thing that concerns me is that QPC makes the same, or very very similar grammatical and spelling errors as our new kid on the block MicaParis!! Go figure?
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mugabe1652

Posted 262 days ago
QPCLCD308

Listen my boy mbongwam doesn't need any person to feel anything about me.
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MicaParis

Posted 262 days ago
Wiseguy please.

I have a green paper on leadership changes on my computer screen that I am currently editing and Mangaung conference is coming I have lot of Policy ANC documents that I am currently very busy with! Plus lot of Government files that I have to read and sign since I head a very huge unit.

PLEASE DO NOT ASSOCIATE ME WITH THAT KIND OF UTTERANCES...PLEASE DO NOT.

Because I have ANC written all over me does not mean I am such a stupid person..please.

If really QPC..is working for DA, that is an embarrassment to the DA indeed!

Wiseguy please my friend I am begging you, I am not that kind of a person, please.

I HAVE LOT OF WORK ON MY TABLE I WILL NOT ENTERTAIN ANYTHING TODAY!
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SuiGeneris

Posted 262 days ago
mica

Oh dear, but you are such an important high ranking official !

You most certainly suffer from a superiority complex or you have an extremely vivid imagination !
I would much rather be interested in the opinion of a humble down to earth individual, speaking from the bottom of his heart, than any of the balderdash you are trying to sell here day by day.

Dream on !
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QPCLCD308

Posted 262 days ago
Lol Mica is wasting lot of time on policies and whatever the good stuff ANC is coming with, all those hard working initiatives will not bare any fruits as implementation had always been a problem for ANC.

Too many good policies but nothing on implementation initiative. Your precious energy can be used somewhere for a change Mica, with ANC I still stress the fact that you are wasting your time, with ''the Spear'' at the helm, you are leaderless.
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Black-Moses

Posted 262 days ago
MicaParis said, i have to read and sign files since i head a very huge unit.

Hogwash, wishful thinking,not thoughtful wishes, emanating from a genuine five star psycopath.

Wiseguy

Posted 262 days ago
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"Govender said many mining companies were yet to take responsibility for the consequences of their commercial activities."........and they won't take responsibility unless FORCED to by legal means!

It is truely a shame that the powers that be continue to block changes to legislation that would allow class action legal proceedings to take place.

If class actions were allowed, the legal profession would take the lead in this and similar circumstances and we would then see tangible changes taking place and quickly........but for reasons ONLY known to those "connected" this legislative change has been blocked?

This raises the question, have those politicians and "public" servants tasked with looking after "the people" and their needs been corrupted (bought off) by the companies in question????

Mike123

Posted 262 days ago
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Perhaps it would be wise to simply study the French revolution. I'm sure that we'll find most of the answers there.
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SuiGeneris

Posted 262 days ago
This is something that often enters my mind and then I wonder if this government isn't perhaps subtly allowing the situation to deteriorate until this will happen and nothing will be able to stop them .

UDFSupporter

Posted 262 days ago
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Eighteen years ago we might have been able to use the excuse that our appointed politicians were to ignorant to understand the extent of the infrastructural disasters that the country were facing. Today, there might even be some understanding of the scope of the ANC regime's "challenges" but there is no capacity or political will to solve any one of these "challenges". We always boast of our best-in-class constitution but fail to mention we have the worst-in-class government and the highest paid cabinet with the least amount of value to the electorate.

RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 262 days ago
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Why the people are angry?
Because politicians make impossible promises every time they want the X on the ballot paper.

SA has some of the best legislation in the world. I will give it to our government, they have come up with some good laws. They have zero ability to do monitoring and enforcing of those laws, but they are good laws.

Unless our mines go back to the enclave system where the entire mine community lives within a gated area and no outsiders are allowed in, we will have squatter camps created by 'job seekers' and tin shacks used by miners who have 10 to 30 dependants who need the housing allowance to be sent home.

Wiseguy

Posted 262 days ago
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MommaC nailed it!
QPC is clearly a troll paid by his masters to do their bidding!! Could Timeslive Ed please block this false dis-infomation racist campaign!!
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SuiGeneris

Posted 262 days ago
The question is, as a moderator, where do one draw the line ?

Shouldn't the discretion be with the reader to separate the truth from obvious balderdash ?
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RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 262 days ago
I don't think banning is necessary. The crazy folk keep things interesting. If you feel that strongly about it, maybe you should create a parallel character which poses as a party propagandist and do the same back?

I've never been a big fan of censorship of any type.
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Wiseguy

Posted 262 days ago
I hear you guys, and I agree I too have never been a fan of censorship or attempts at curtailing freedom of speech.
But a clear dis-information campaign.....I mean, how low will some stoop?? The mind boggles but then politics is a very dirty game......unfortunately, as in most of these circumstances.....it is the poorest of the poor who will bear the brunt of it !

I'll stick with my one and only persona, thanks Momma ! Wouldn't want to risk the schizophrenia, LOL!!;-)

QPCLCD308

Posted 262 days ago
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This ANC leeches are doing serious damage to our business interest, now can you imagine who is going to cry and sing ''unemployment'' tunes if we move our businesses to offshore markets??

Come on people get real or face the truth...is true..ANC is messing up big time..true fact!!
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mugabe1652

Posted 262 days ago
May i suggest something for you maybe? Find another country to live because you superior times is gone and will never return.
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staren

Posted 262 days ago
You seriously need to expand your vocabulary - or at least try using a word other than "leech", which seems to be about the only thing common to your posts...
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QPCLCD308

Posted 262 days ago
Aiiiiiiii....Mugabe? You are too much but an idiot hogwash to can suggest anything of material fact.
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RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 262 days ago
Come on QPCLCD, don't be shy. Let us know who you really work for.
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QPCLCD308

Posted 262 days ago
RSA.Mammoc

My loyalty lies with DA my dear, well I will hit your call not to ''insult'' in respect of timelive but I will not stop criticizing the ruling party, unlike others I am an open book and ready to criticize if necessary, the country is burning Mammoc, some of us cannot keep quite.
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mugabe1652

Posted 262 days ago
QPCLCD308

You claim that the country is burning where? Stop smoking whatever that make you see things other people cannot see.
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QPCLCD308

Posted 262 days ago
Hahahaha..what? Only fools like you cannot dare notice that the country is burning.... Of course
you are too much stupid to can even realize the level of your stupidity.
I like the fact that you cannot stop exposing your stupidity...In fact entertaining an idiot like you is a waist of time as some people might not notice who is really stupid.

Go on ''cadre'' expose yourself fool!!
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staren

Posted 262 days ago
"Of course you are too much stupid to can even realize the level of your stupidity"

Um... ... nevermind.

Duzula

Posted 262 days ago
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This anger was made by Apartheid and it's not going to end anytime soon, we're just an Angry Nation...
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SuiGeneris

Posted 262 days ago
Come to terms with reality.
Look towards what you can achieve in the future.
Your destiny is in your own hands.
Dwelling in the past will do you no good !
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BAMBINA

Posted 262 days ago
the government should stop stealing from the people and all these angry people should build their bridges and get over it so that we can move along and live happily side by side

Stirrer

Posted 262 days ago
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Another reason why the people are angry, is the gap between the "haves" and the "have-nots". I have nothing against the "haves" who acquired their riches through education and hard work. I do, however, not condone any unjust enrichment, or enrichment acquired by nepotism and other nefarious manners.

"Until the philosophy, which holds one section superior, and another section inferior, is finally and permanently discredited and abandoned, the people will remain angry!" (apologies to Haile Sellasie, for butchering his passionate plea to the UN)
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QPCLCD308

Posted 262 days ago
How about the ''have-nots'' using their vote wisely?
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RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 262 days ago
You will always have the 'haves' and the 'have nots' in the world. It is simply the reality of social structure. To have that on something other than pure merit should always be fought against though.

The problem arises when politicians promise the 'have nots' that they can sit on their hands and do nothing but demand a share of what the 'haves' have worked their whole lives for. Something that was never explained to the people of SA is that freedom is a two edged sword. You have the freedom to succeed but you also have the freedom to fail.
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QPCLCD308

Posted 262 days ago
I agree Mammoc, cannot have put it better. I agree with your call not to 'racially' insult people, but what the ANC led govenment is doing to the country is disgusting on a serious note.

ZENETH

Posted 262 days ago
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Ironically the first democratic President to make totally unrealistic promises is now regarded as a World Icon.

staren

Posted 262 days ago
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I think the sad reality is that the ANC in effect - and they themselves have proven this time and time again - is in the business of politics and not in the business of government, and as long as this is the case, I dont think we should expect anything other than minor social changes over the years to come.

I suspect this will hold true especially considering that the majority (of the current generation) of the electorate are for the most part, largely uneducated and prone to the populists tendencies that we so often see in "revolutionary politics" - i.e they will keep voting for the ANC until they day they die, because no matter poorly the ANC delivers, and no matter how many promises the ANC breaks, the ANC is seen as the "liberation" party...

Black-Moses

Posted 262 days ago
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'Why people are angry.''

Promised free houses, free education,free social grants, free this and free that...unfortunately ther is nothing for free under the sun. Chickens are coming home to roost.

mugabe1652

Posted 262 days ago
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Tony Blair will be arrested before the end the day here in my soil.hahaha.

i_stub_born

Posted 262 days ago
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People becomes angry when politicians cheat them shamelessly. Unfortunately, after 18 years of cheating them without providing tangible improvement they were promised left and right, it has finally dawned on them that they really were fooled, but they are still ignorant and were kept so, to realize finally who cheated them fair and square, and cannot distinguish between the old oppressors and the new oppressors and are so desperate to hear something from somebody that they belief the horse-manure coming from other demagogues like the Purple Fatso Malema-Punk Floyd duo and the new pig-brigade anxious to take over the trough out from the snouts of the old ANC Mafiosi........

The picture repeats itself over and over again here and everywhere ........
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mugabe1652

Posted 262 days ago
How much the DA pays you wena mntu?
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QPCLCD308

Posted 262 days ago
Mugabe , We ''pays'' them well fool.

Ask youself who have economic freedom in your ''life time'' fool. You might be leading but are you seriously a leader in economic stability?

Who pays your political master a hefty bribe because he have money to bribe in order to protect business interests? Fool if you know you will know who your real leader is, your real leader is who have money and the one who you call your leader is a foreman who will never tell you who your real leader is, because your foreman is hungry he will not tell you the truth.

But indeed your real leader is he who have money and unfotonatly is the opposite race.
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mugabe1652

Posted 262 days ago
QPCLCD308

I understand your wishful dream but will never be my leader or a leader in my country.
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i_stub_born

Posted 262 days ago
....They pay me nothing, unfortunately, but the entertainment and laughter at reading your obtuse comments make up for it......It's like going to the circus........