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Tue May 21 00:05:52 SAST 2013

Blair slams Tutu claim that he lied about Iraq

Sapa and Staff reporter | 03 September, 2012 00:07
Former British prime minister Tony Blair. File photo

Former British prime minister Tony Blair has described as "completely wrong" assertions by retired archbishop Desmond Tutu that he "lied" when explaining why he decided to approve the invasion of Iraq in 2003.

Blair's support for the invasion of Iraq prompted Tutu to refuse last week to join a leadership conference in Sandton, to which Blair had been invited as a keynote speaker.

Writing in the British newspaper The Observer, Tutu called on Blair and former US president George W Bush to face trial in The Hague for their role in the Iraq war. He accused the two of lying about weapons of mass destruction and said the invasion left the world more unstable and divided "than any other conflict in history".

"The immorality of the decision by the US and Britain to invade Iraq in 2003, premised on the lie that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction, has destabilised and polarised the world to a greater extent than has any other conflict in history."

Tutu, awarded a Nobel Peace Prize in 1984, said Blair and Bush should face justice at the International Criminal Court, in The Hague.

He questioned the different standards for bringing African and Asian leaders to justice at The Hague compared with Western leaders.

Bush and Blair, he said, had "fabricated the grounds to behave like playground bullies and drive us further apart. They have driven us to the edge of a precipice where we now stand - with the spectre of Syria and Iran before us."

In his response, Blair said Tutu was simply repeating an old "canard" about the reasons for invading Iraq when "every single analysis of the evidence" showed the country had weapons of mass destruction.

He added: "To say Saddam's massacre of hundreds of thousands of his citizens is irrelevant to the morality of removing him is bizarre".

But Tutu said the cost of removing former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein had come at the expense of more than 11000 Iraqi lives since the start of the conflict, with millions more displaced.

He said the invasion of Iraq had created the backdrop for civil war in Syria, and a potential conflict in the Middle East over Iran's nuclear ambitions.

Tutu said: "By the end of last year, nearly 4500 American soldiers had been killed and more than 32000 wounded. On these grounds alone, in a consistent world, those responsible for this suffering and loss of life should be treading the same path as some of their African and Asian peers who have been made to answer for their actions in The Hague," said Tutu.

Last week Tutu refused share a stage with Blair at the Discovery Invest Leadership Summit.

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SecretVoice

Posted 259 days ago
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Tutu will do anything to get back in the limelight. His rants are misplaced and unbecoming for a man of the cloth. Saddam Hussein was a tyrant and an international criminal. The world is a better place without him.
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ILoveTheTruth

Posted 259 days ago
"The world is a better place without him."

How do you know this?

You tend to forget about tyrants such as Bush and Blair who were responsible for the deaths of thousands of civilians(including their own citizens). And it does not take a genius to see that they do this in the name of profit. They have profited from all their crimes by seizing the oil and minerals of the countries they invade and war with. Today still, Palestinians die daily because of the West support for Israel. But because they and their masters control the media, people are being fed a lot of BS.

Do they ever get tried for their crimes? No! We must stop being hypocrites, and start holding everyone accountable for their crimes. Some of these western leaders know they can get away with murder because their citizens allow it, and it is all in the name of pillage and plunder. Most European countries are rich today(and the citizens love it) because of the wealth they stole from other nations when they invade. I would hang my head in shame if I were from Europe.
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SecretVoice

Posted 259 days ago
ILove the truth

How do you know this??? Are you serious!!!! Go ask the Kurds about his chemical warfare against them.
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ILoveTheTruth

Posted 259 days ago
Look, I am not saying that he did not do bad things, all of us do bad things. I am saying what goes for the goose must go for the gander.
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kksonuk

Posted 259 days ago
"The world is a better place without him. "

Same as saying the world is a better place without Bin Laden, or the world is a better place without Colin Chauke, Or the world is a better place without Ananias Mathe.... On the same note, I think the world would have been a better place without Bush and Blair. If I were to put my view of things, Bin Laden would not have attacked US if bush was not the president of that country. I know am relating completely different people/ criminals above without relation whatsoever and out of place and that is what the war in Iraq has done to the world. It caused confusion as I seem to have confused things above.

Do U know anything about "The Halliburton". I bet you do but I would say revisit and add up things. The war in Iraq had nothing to do with the safety of the world... as much as Sadam was not the safest person to be ruled by for some part of Iraq. I still remember the million (people) march we had in London just before the war. The message was clear to both Bush and Blair that their so called evidence was wrong and the truth was that there is no such thing as weapons of mass destruction. But in their minds one thing was clear... "We kill that dude, we have our hands on oil and man we are rich". The unfortunate thing is that those of us including the Americans and British citizens who believe that the war in Iraq was for a good cause, we will never rip the benefit of it.. oil that is.
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amaKK

Posted 259 days ago
Saddam Hussein was a tyrant and an international criminal

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So is Mugabe, Al-Bashi, Blaise Campore... The list of (sitting) murderous leaders is long.

If there's one thing about Tutu, he's message has been consistent for decades. He's one voice of truth.
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JoelLegodi

Posted 259 days ago
It surprises to learn that there are more and more people are naive about Tonny Blair and George Bush. The two are the highest ranking member of their respective masonic organizations, 1570 stodholme lodge and bone and skull illuminati which its role is death. I bet you don't even know the so Callled JABULLON!
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ILoveTheTruth

Posted 259 days ago
@JoelLegodi

I am sure they know about it and support it secretly. Satan's greatest trick on mankind is hiding his existence. It creates confusion so that he can better control the world.
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HanifManjoo

Posted 259 days ago
The-Rothschild:

FYI

The same Muslims (Arabs and blacks) protected Jews from being slaughtered in Jerusalem.

Saladin, when he heard that (I think William the Great) lost his white horse during one of the Crusades, sent him a replacment, observing 'a noble leader cannot be without a horse'.

Besides, that history is a bad chapter in mankind's legacy; only about religious fanaticism. Even Chrsitians committed atrocities against their own, not only during the Inquisition.

As noted, we are now talking about current times of being civilised, a global village and tolerance, not the deemed superiority of one human race above the rest!
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Colourless

Posted 259 days ago
Is this world better without u(secrete voice)?...... Lets not engage in politics blinded....Tutu mst speak bcz he kpt many skeletons in him of which thy re jumpng thru morals as the cloth is pushng hm in guilt. Luk @the euro zone, wht Blair & Bush did ws out of self interest.....A fmly nw sleeps wthout a father, Saddam's days were numbered anyways...The International does not prosecute USA nor EUROPE leaders bt really African leaders re, so wht do u name that????? Let the man spik, nw thy bussy wth the pointng game so it cn be to assecinate them see,
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OBigOneKenobi

Posted 259 days ago
Tony Blair was honouring an allegiance that Great Britain and the United States had after World War II after the United States defended his country against such a tyrant. It's ironic how Tutu doesn't get that.
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mohapisepeesa

Posted 258 days ago
No wonder the name is baas frik. Fact is the whole issue about international law is a farce.

nkosipeter

Posted 259 days ago
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Saddam Hussein himself was a weapon of mass destruction.

Iraq is now a safer place to live in than South Africa.
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uShwi-nent'encane

Posted 259 days ago
Too much coffee there mate, either that or you got the wrong stash
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OBigOneKenobi

Posted 259 days ago
@uShwi-nent'encane

Yes, I agree - there's no way South Africa is a safer place than Iraq with the ANC in power.

Tronn

Posted 259 days ago
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I hope the world realizes that Tutu is not speaking on behalf of ALL South Africans. Since when is our country "in bed" with iraq anyway?? The "crying clown" must keep his nose out of other countries politics. Just now his interference results in war between USA and RSA.
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uShwi-nent'encane

Posted 259 days ago
The Archbishop is highlighting the inconsistence in the interpretation and application of the international law. Why would you pretend to be dumb, coming up with false arguments? Is it to defend your own bigotry? Of course he’s not talking on behalf of “all South Africans”, rather those who stand for justice and equality under law.
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HanifManjoo

Posted 259 days ago
Strange how in SA mostly whites decry Tutu and suppport Blair/Bush whilst the non-Western world calls for them to be tried for war crimes, like what's done with African and Asian leaders.

What we all do not ever consider is: no Africanor Asian country ever invaded a western country on such a pretext. That alone says a lot about the murderous west and their allies.

At the end of the day, we are all 'clowns' but that does not digress from standing up for human rights! Pity that we regress into such insensitivity despite being 'religious' and 'civilised'!
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kksonuk

Posted 259 days ago
@Tronn
"Just now his interference results in war between USA and RSA. "

You seem and sound very much scared of the USA!
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The-Rothschilds

Posted 259 days ago
HanifManjoo

The middle east has never invaded the West AKA Europe????

Dude, history is alot longer than the past 350 years.

The Moors (Black and Arab Muslims from Africa and the Middle East) slaughtered millions of Europeans during their invasions of Europe.

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ILoveTheTruth

Posted 259 days ago
@The-Rothschilds

Dude, we are talking about modern times in which we are supposed to be civilized, not ancient history. Geez, you guys can really keep a grudge hey? LOL!
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kksonuk

Posted 259 days ago
@The-Rothschilds

Can we continue to blame apartheid then in South Africa as well?
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ILoveTheTruth

Posted 259 days ago
@kksonuk

"Can we continue to blame apartheid then in South Africa as well? "

hahahaha! Good point!
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The-Rothschilds

Posted 259 days ago
ILoveTheTruth

That is exactly what you do, you blame apartheid for everything.........yet you don't want to hear the crimes you committed in your history, like Khoi Khoi genocide.

i_stub_born

Posted 259 days ago
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....With all due respect, what happened with Arch Tutu's prayers for the ANC to fall????.........Actually, he should be worrying more about the internal Iraq we have here.............

EddyDeepfield

Posted 259 days ago
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Sadaam Hussein was the butcher of Baghdad and had chemicals weapons that he used willingly on his own dissenting citizens and he could have had weapons of mass destruction like nukes. No question about that. His army was the fourth biggest army in the world. Why?
Like Iran today he wanted to obliterate Israel off the face of the earth. So the Arch should stick to Church politics and not world politics, because he cares nothing for those oppressed by Sadaam Hussein or those oppressed by Islamic fanatic Governments like Iran etc.
That in my book justifies Tony Blair’s actions. As one wise person said “Evil flourishes where good men do nothing”. Can you imagine our bumbling and indecisive President Zuma doing something in the presence of evil? He has done nothing in the presence of the Butcher of the Matabele tyrant Robert Gabriel Mugabe Savour of Zimbabwe.
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ILoveTheTruth

Posted 259 days ago
"As one wise person said “Evil flourishes where good men do nothing"."

Yes? Then how come they did nothing In Zimbabwe or other countries where there are slaughters taking place daily? How about invading Israel for slaughtering thousands of children? Do you honestly think they went into Iraq to help the citizens? Well if you think this then you are truly naive. They have a dark agenda! We all know they went in there for the oil and to setup base for future attacks. Wake up, please!

i_stub_born

Posted 259 days ago
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"Evil flourishes where good men do nothing.......unless there is money, too many people or good land".......

.......History of mankind is replete with examples...........

m1si2zi3nzo4

Posted 259 days ago
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The Arch must have forgotten that we are still struggling for survival under the present regime. Perhaps he has succumbed to political blackmail, after being called names by the NUM comrades-in-murder.

JeremyActon

Posted 259 days ago
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The invasion of Iraq was purely for the oil resources and to put more strategic bases in the middfle east arena, thus preventing Russia and China any cance to take Iraq's oil by doing business with Iraq.

The WMD claim was absolute lies, and only an excuse to invade. (They are trying the same BS with Iran)

When we judge the leaders of other nations, thugs though they may be, we must respect rule of international law, and also recognise that nations must sort out thir own internal strife. No country has a right to invade another with military force and bombs on "humanitarian" grounds.

Sure, Saddam was harming the Kurds, but what happened to the civilian population of Iraq in the hands of the USA was MUCH MUCH worse. Remember that US NATO forces also used depleted uranium in shells and bullets, which even today affect Iraqis.

I greatly admire the stance of Bishop Tutu on this matter, especially in comparison with the fawning behavior of our government towards Blair and to the powers behind big money.

Let's face it. Our country is being run by the NWO.
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ILoveTheTruth

Posted 259 days ago
"Let's face it. Our country is being run by the NWO."

Hehehe! Agreed sir.

And they are now concentrating their forces in the Middle East, as these guys are not playing ball with their One-World-Order agenda. I would say they pretty much have the rest of the world under their control.
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The-Rothschilds

Posted 259 days ago
NWO ................... besides your boss, how is your life controlled in anyways? The fact that you have access to internet proves your life aint so bad in this NWO you claim to exist.
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The-Rothschilds

Posted 259 days ago
ILoveTheTruth

I am not Jewish, nor do I care what you feel for Jews, considering your comments contradict your split personality.

The way i see it, is that the world of all races spat on the Jews for all their existence and now the tables have turned so the world is pooping in each pants :)
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EddyDeepfield

Posted 259 days ago
How can you comment with such certainty. You are deluded. Iran with a nuclear bomb means a third world war the same as if Saddam had one. Are you from Pofadder?

l984

Posted 259 days ago
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While it is hard to deny that Bush Snr is probably the one american president that contributed the most towards the americans' negative image abroad, while contributing the least towards his own country, people and economy - if memory serves correctly Tony Blair was sort of hoodwinked and led to genuinely believe the suspicions and the 'proof' for the existence of WMD in Iraq - so that his support can be used. With that said - Saddam Hussein (and his oppressive murderous regime) was a dangerous dictator posing a constant threat to his own people and the rest of the world - and removing murderous oppresive regimes is sometimes necessary yet always dirty job which often tends to backfire. A person should think twice before lending support for any oppressive undemocratic regimes.
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l984

Posted 259 days ago
correction: *Bush Jnr*
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ILoveTheTruth

Posted 259 days ago
Wow, and they did this on humanitarian grounds to help the citizens of Iraq and not for the oil and to setup base for future invasions. Wow, 1984, you are a true genius! No-one can teach you anything.

Abdulla-Saleeh

Posted 259 days ago
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What most people fail to see is that the usa has the biggest stockpile of nuclear weapons than any other country yet they are trying to prevent anyone from builing them. Their closes ally in the middle east, israel has not even declared that they are holding those weapons yet they are now gunning for Iran who has even allowed the united nations (another usa-europe BS machine) to inspect their facilities.
Truth is the war in Iraq had nothing to do with finding weapons but to remove Saddam as he was not allowing us/euro oil companies to rig oil in Iraq. Same reason why Gadhaffi was outsted.

Peopl should begging to question why when African countries are sitting on massive deposits of mineral are so poor (poorest in the world)? This is what men like Gadhaffi and Sadam where fighting against. Look at the economics of Libya during Gadaffis reign and look at them 5 year from now, there will be a massive downward change.
Iraq under Sadam enjoyed high GDp per capita, the countries urban area were doing well and people were affluent and enjoyed a high standard of living.
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The-Rothschilds

Posted 259 days ago
B*ll sh*t

Both Iraq and Libya were third world hell holes scourged with militancy and poverty. America just put both countries on the map and came them both some years of fame.

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Abdulla-Saleeh

Posted 259 days ago
Clearly your understanding of economics is poor or you knew very little about those countries pre-war. Go look at the facts.

m1si2zi3nzo4

Posted 259 days ago
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The Arch must try to play God to the deceased in Marikana Massacre-turned 'tragedy' by the elite. 34 strikers mowed in less than five seconds, must beat any world record, and we have not heard from the little man who faced the mighty PW Botha without flinching. The mass destruction of human life is happening under our nose, and we hear moans about dead Saddam, and Gaddafis. Are the lives of our citizens so cheap, not to need any mention?

ILoveTheTruth

Posted 259 days ago
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@Abdulla-Saleeh

I agree with you my friend, the biggest crooks(USA, Europe and Israel) pretend to be the heroes and saviours of the world. In the meantime they oppress, murder and steal from other countries.

Anyone with half a brain can see this!

Forgive "The Rotschild", he does not have half a brain.(and don't say because you have a full one). LOL!
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Abdulla-Saleeh

Posted 259 days ago
I think we need to have Geo-politics as a subject in our schools instead of just plain history, then we can have people that understand politics a little better casting the vote in future. Most people cannot see that the invasion of Iran is getting closer by the day, with the threat of nuclear weapons being the polarasing factor. Truth is Iran is emerging as a strong player with vast oil reserves and technological advancement they will be unstopable bearing in mind that Putin (Who is anti west) is back at the helm in Russia. And remember those countries enjoy close relations with China.
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Redplug

Posted 259 days ago
The Rotschild believes all this main stream news nonsense. I'm also with Abdulla, the US and the UK want to hold the whole world ransom. They have polarised the world more with their middle east stunts becasue at the end of the day it is still all about world domination and supremacy. They use 'diplomacy' to threathen the rest of us into agreeing with their sanctions. Our freedom is conditional, those who oppose openly and want to put themselves on equal footing with them are hunted down and killed. We should buy more weapons!
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l984

Posted 259 days ago
@ Redplug

While I can somewhat agree with most of your comment (except for the last sentence) - if one is to acknowledge the reality - the major attempts for domination are split between the following forces:

- USA/Britain/western civilisation
- Russia/China/communist countries
- Islamic fundamentalism

If you were to be realistic enough and accept the situation for what it is - which one would you choose? And to take it one step further - if we were to compare those countries' citizens' human rights, freedoms, opportunities and level of democracy - which ones would come first? Lastly - if one was to compare the number of citizens of any of those countries fleeing and seeking refige and better opportunities elsewhere - what would the picture look like - and mostly why???
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EddyDeepfield

Posted 259 days ago
i love the truth - You should call yourself "i am deluded". Would you rather the world be ruled by Islamic or communist autocratic states?
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Abdulla-Saleeh

Posted 259 days ago
@1984

If one was to judge america on the true sense of democracy and human right I'd say they have violated worse than most countries, e.g. the invasion of Iraq!
And bear in mind that ameria uses democracy as a polarising factor just as the english and the spanish used christianinty. In it's true sense what was sold is not what is practised by the americans themselves, they have violated human rights in many of the countries where they have had major business relations. Their biggest problem isasuming that democracy is good for everyone and should be accepted by all.
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l984

Posted 259 days ago
@ Abdulla-Saleeh

My point was that nothing and no one is perfect, and that we should accept, analyse and compare the reality as it is, choose what seems to be the best option and strive to make it even better.

"Their biggest problem isasuming that democracy is good for everyone and should be accepted by all."

I would say democracy is good for those who want and believe in their personal power as individuals, their freedom, independence, responsibility and ability to choose their fate or effect change if necessary. For those who want to be treated like sheep and oppressed or abused there are plenty other options - tribalism, feudalism, islamic fundamentalism, communism and plenty other -isms. It would only be fair though that they refrain from bleating like the sheep they are against the consequences thereof, or try not to run away into the big bad democratic western world at every opportunity.
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Abdulla-Saleeh

Posted 259 days ago
@1984

All the systems have their good and their own flaws. And any of them can be manipulated for gain by those in a position of power, it doesn't matter what political system is applied, what matters is the people we have at the helm. If those at the helm are bad the system will be abused and will appear bad, if we have good people then they can even turn the worst of system into a good one.
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l984

Posted 259 days ago
@ Abdulla-Saleeh

True. There is another just as important issue though since there are no guarantees: If the system in question does not allow the removing and replacing of the people at the top if it turns out that they are really bad - then the system is just as bad! And not all systems allow for that.

So in essence - it DOES matter what political system is applied!
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Abdulla-Saleeh

Posted 259 days ago
England is a democratic country right? The queen?

Why must the family still leech off the taxpayer?

The reason why some systems do not allow the removal of leader is not the system it is the leaders wanting to hang on to pwer and plunder the resources. Any system can allow the removal of leaders, remember the rules of the systems are made by those at the top and they want to preserve what can help them acquire wealth.
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m1si2zi3nzo4

Posted 259 days ago
All these things can only rely on human domination. There must always be a dominant figure to dictate terms on the rest. Such inequality is the source of luxury, which gives birth to corruption. Someone has to 'get' to that dictatorship position first. This can be achieved by cheating the rest of humanity, or through use of coercion. It is coercive authority that triumphs in the end, because cheating has an element of force in it. Communism, capitalism, religion, politics, all are oppressive in nature, allowing little, or no room for dissent, or error.

Hence all cannot survive the information age, because in it everyone has access to all the information, and can manage his life according to his own interpretation of the available information, without looking up to the top. The resistance to wider use of technology is the born out of fear of loss of control by those who have self-appointed themselves as 'leaders', be it in religion, politics, economy, etc. The only honesty is in the capitalism, which does not hide the fact that it relies on domination of the market. The rest play the role of 'preachers' to those they identify as poor, and in need of their pity. They cannot explain where they get their right and power to 'preach' or rule the rest, so that we all can be preachers or rulers.
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Abdulla-Saleeh

Posted 259 days ago
@mzizi I agree with you, well said sir, but also remember that capitalism breeds corruption and abuse of power.

QPCLCD308

Posted 259 days ago
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i agree with tutu when he says we should pray for the fall of cANCer. but could not agree no more with his side of story about blaire he does not have prove and who said tutu himself is clean, a hipocrate.
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mugabe1652

Posted 259 days ago
I say so. blair and bush should be hanged in public for invading Iraq.

l984

Posted 259 days ago
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... Now what would a thread like this one be without an Islamic fundamentalist ???
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l984

Posted 259 days ago

... and what would I and my Creator be without a Prophet like yourself..?!!!

i_stub_born

Posted 259 days ago
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.....therefore, stone the women to death....they are guilty for the infidelity of their 'pure' husbands.........and launch the nukes now......Its fire will purify mankind..........and who knows, there could be maaaaaaannyy "virgins" awaiting us all!!!!!!!................

mugabe1652

Posted 259 days ago
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In his response, Blair said Tutu was simply repeating an old "canard" about the reasons for invading Iraq when "every single analysis of the evidence" showed the country had weapons of mass destruction
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Can our twisted Blair give us an evidence of his allegations? or just another dark and dive like all politicians do>

i_stub_born

Posted 259 days ago
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HanifManjoo

The middle east has never invaded the West AKA Europe????

Dude, history is alot longer than the past 350 years.

The Moors (Black and Arab Muslims from Africa and the Middle East) slaughtered millions of Europeans during their invasions of Europe.
_____________________________________________________________________________________

Aside that........

yet. mankind benefitted with the arab influence AT THAT TIME.........There was lots of knowledge and advancement in science and respect for other cultures and religions....

....a big difference with the present time hordes of fanatic barbarians that want to go back to the cave ages and want to drag all of us along............

i_stub_born

Posted 259 days ago
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"".....Iraq under Sadam enjoyed high GDp per capita""""""...........

.....the capitas alone or the ones still attached to a body ??...............

m1si2zi3nzo4

Posted 259 days ago
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The problem with communist reasoning is its dismal failure to draw parallels between the basic principles of human nature, and the Utopia they want everyone to 'fight' for. This is manifested in their denial of others to hear Blair's speeches, whilst they gleefully approved and praised their president's visit to the land of the queen 'representing' us. Their way of reasoning is like the biblical call to discard human inclinations and motives, and substitute them with the hope for some unworldly existence that no one has ever seen. This perfect disinterest in the present reality is betrayed by their instinct for the finest luxuries of life, which involves replacement of capitalism with barbarism, which also comes natural to human, in the absence of civilisation.

Few can still believe in their trick of shifting people from their realities and directing their attention elsewhere, where their knowledge is extremely limited, and their sense can be made only from their prodigies.

JohnnyEnglish

Posted 259 days ago
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Tony Blair used lies and spin to engage in a war of conquest against Iraq.

He should be tried at the Hague.
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mugabe1652

Posted 259 days ago
You are one of the few from your race who can tell the truth.

mugabe1652

Posted 259 days ago
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Again DA agents deleted my comments here can they tell why?

eppy136667

Posted 259 days ago
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I'm am no fan of either of these political bullies who take advantage of the ignorance of the majority and the micro-power/influence of the minority who retaliate against the made to look like war mineral theft; when they are the composers of these civil wars they always spot-out first, acting as heroes with their sanctions. Also repossessing weapons which they manufacture and sell to the very same contries as if they are recycling.

There is something I just can't stand when our wealth is being measured in US Dollars and you don't find a conversion of a "R" (Rand) on cellphone calculaters and converters!

I support you Tutu....




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RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 259 days ago
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At least the Bish has the courage of his convictions.

Blair is nothing but Bush's lackey. They both went against the UN and they both hid the reports that showed no threat but hyped up nonsense reports to convince their people that they should send their husbands, sons, mothers and daughters over to die for a personal vendetta. They have blood on their hands.

It is irrelevant if Saddam was a saint or a sinner - the truth is that the people of Iraq had their choice of self determination taken from them.

JohnnyEnglish

Posted 259 days ago
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Dear Times Live.

Please please please open up all your stories to comments again. Just like the old days.

Dont you remember the fun we all used to have ?

:(
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devanzlive

Posted 259 days ago
I second that. There are stories to which people will love to reply and discuss!!!
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mugabe1652

Posted 259 days ago
They won't because the new ED working for thetimes is DA planted agent.
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Stirrer

Posted 259 days ago
Don't be silly, JohnnyEnglish!
TimesLive doesn't like having satisfied readers and commentators ;)
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JohnnyEnglish

Posted 259 days ago
He he Stirrer.

Good to see a name from the past.

Where is everybody man ???

I feel like I have come back to town to find all my old friends have moved away !

Shame on you Times Live.

We, the people, demand a reunion.

devanzlive

Posted 259 days ago
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LOL!! Check out Zapiro's cartoon, enough said.
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JohnnyEnglish

Posted 259 days ago
Lol.

Pretty much sums Tony up doesn't it.