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Sun May 19 17:29:28 SAST 2013

Zuma finally speaks out on Marikana shooting

THANDO MGAGA | 12 September, 2012 00:28
President Jacob Zuma. File photo.

President Jacob Zuma used the funeral of a cleric yesterday to break his silence on allegations of police brutality at the Marikana mine.

For the first time since 34 miners died in a hail of bullets almost a month ago, Zuma questioned how police could so "easily" shoot at civilians.

"'It has become so easy for the police to shoot and kill people and for the people to protest with spears and pangas," he said.

Apart from setting up a judicial commission of inquiry and an inter-ministerial team to investigate the shootings, the president had been quiet about the police's use of live ammunition on the striking miners - and the resultant outcry.

Yesterday, speaking at the funeral of the Rev Elliot Khoza Mgojo, in Port Shepstone, KwaZulu-Natal, Zuma said crime in South Africa had become increasingly violent.

But reports that South Africa led the world in crime statistics were not true, he said. The spotlight was, however, on the violent nature of crime in South Africa.

"There are those who rape a person of over 90. In other countries people steal and leave; [here] people steal and wait for you [to hurt you]," he said.

Zuma's statements followed those of Archbishop Emeritus Desmond Tutu, who bemoaned the sharp decline of moral standards in this country.

Tutu, who almost broke into tears repeatedly asked what had happened to this country.

He said: "A grown-up man can rape a baby. What happened to us that three orphans were stoned to death, what have we done? We thought God was giving us freedom, what has happened to us?

". What has happened to us that today we can speak of our police force killing our own people."

People were living in fear because of crime and were like "prisoners in their own homes", he said, before singing Senzeni Na? (What Have We Done), a popular liberation song.

Zuma said Tutu's question on moral decay required leaders from the ANC and churches to join hands to find an answer.

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SecretVoice

Posted 249 days ago
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The  danger to  South Africa  is  not Jacob Zuma but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of a Zuma presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Zuma, who is a mere symptom of what ails South Africa. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Jacob Zuma, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their President. 
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SiyabongaBiyela

Posted 249 days ago
Its all Zuma's fault? Its this sort of thing that makes idiots Heroes. This is how he rose into power

Wort

Posted 249 days ago
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You wanted to be the leader, Zuma. So lead. If you don't know how, step aside for someone who does.
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buddi

Posted 249 days ago
Yes, but who? Can you think of anyone suitable in the anc?

ChristianityforEver

Posted 249 days ago
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Shame to idiots who think mugabe is a hero and use his stinking name. Better are those who voted zuma because zuma never massacred hundreds of thousands of his own people. mugabe gave orders that people be killed by gugurahundi. he is a personified devil to gether with the people who glorify him.

manga2

Posted 249 days ago
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Sure Msholozi. These terrible things have become easy to do right under your nose. Just forget about Mangaung and come out, speak strongly (off the cuff, you sound better that way) and chide all involded. That's all we are crying out for. That's what your enemies are doing.

You were a lame duck President well before you took over the reigns. Nothing will change.

SindiM

Posted 249 days ago
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Amen fellow citizen. you have summarised it all in one mail. The root cause of our problems is on your first paragraph.

mzansi-wanda

Posted 249 days ago
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'It has become so easy for the police to shoot and kill people and for the people to protest with spears and pangas," he said. Solution?

In short, Mr President has said nothing about something as usual. If there were olympics of beating about the bush, President JZ would take a gold medal and the world record.

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pekkil.monta

Posted 249 days ago
So, first we spend years singing and asking people to bring him his machine gun, and now he is surprised people show up with their spears and pangas? Hahaha. And after Marikana, i am sure that it is not lost on people that bringing a spear to a gun fight is a dumb idea.

And than we are surprised bottom feeders like Malema have oceans of space to move into?

These used to be smart people...

buddi

Posted 249 days ago
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I don't zuma has the faintest idea of where to even begin fixing all the wrongs in this country, and the longer we wait, the more difficult it will become.
Use your votes wisely people - even if we don't give another party full power, at least give them the power to control this government.
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buddi

Posted 249 days ago
Correction -
I don't think zuma ...........
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manga2

Posted 249 days ago
We do use our votes wisely. We vote for the ANC. We lament the absence of alternatives to the ANC.

And we can justify our choice, with all its flaws. The recent stats on employment where white males and whites in general are dominating reflect the cabinet of the Western Cape. Imagine if you were in charge of the rest of RSA!
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TheAlchemist

Posted 249 days ago
@Manga2 "The recent stats on employment where white males and whites in general are dominating reflect the cabinet of the Western Cape. Imagine if you were in charge of the rest of RSA!" yes Manga, but recent stats also show that 92% of Limpopo is run and managed by blacks. That province is now under administration and cannot even deliver textbooks to its schools. Don’t get me wrong, I am not attempting to insinuate that blacks are incompetent (merely that cadre deployment does us black folk no favours by perpetually breeding self-serving demagogues)the playing fields definitely need to be levelled but perpetually voting for a system which ultimately widens the divide between the haves and have not’s purely based on the colour of ones skin does not do anyone favours. The key is to get the ANC out of government first then provide input into how top form a fully representative party and nation. Any party that treats education as casually as the ANC does, and still has support from the voting public tells me that these voters are simply idiots for allowing their votes to perpetuate the poverty cycle of theirs and up to 3 generations. You have given the ANC 18 years of your vote yet you cannot attempt 4 years with another party? I simply do not get the idiocy of this, must be some kind of tribal thing mchana.
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i_stub_born

Posted 249 days ago
"""""You were a lame duck President well before you took over the reigns. Nothing will change."""""

........still vote for him/them "wisely"...........

mmugabe

Posted 249 days ago
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The current police aren't different from the apartheid police where life of brown skinned had no value.

MicaParis

Posted 249 days ago
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A constitutional statesman is in general a man of common opinions and uncommon abilities. It is as hard and severe a thing to be a true politician as to be truly moral.
The apparent rulers of the South African nation are like the imposing personages of a splendid procession. It is by them the mob are influenced; it is they whom the spectators cheer. The real rulers are secreted in second-rate carriages; no one cares for them or asks after them, but they are obeyed implicitly and unconsciously by reason of the splendor of those who eclipsed and preceded them.