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Thu May 23 09:17:33 SAST 2013

Form a new party - Zille

CAIPHUS KGOSANA | 28 September, 2012 00:11
DA leader Helen Zille. File photo.
Image by: SIMPHIWE NKWALI

DA leader Helen Zille - who is standing for another term as party leader - has called for the formation of a new political party to challenge the ruling ANC.

Addressing the Cape Town Press Club yesterday, Zille said the historical roots of the current political parties were making it difficult for them to challenge the dominant position of the ANC alone.

"The truth is none of our existing political parties, as currently constituted, can credibly offer this on their own. It's time for political leaders to catch up with reality," she said.

Zille has called on "constitutionalists" both within the ANC and in other political parties to "take the plunge" and move out of their comfort zones into a new political formation that would be guided by the four core values of:

Defending the constitution;

Nurturing non-racialism;

Growing a regulated, market-driven economy to achieve growth; and

Building a competent state that puts competence above loyalty and punishes corruption.

Commitment to these core values was non-negotiable, said Zille.

The new party would adopt the National Development Plan, which she said was similar to the DA's Growth and Jobs Plan, as its blueprint for governing.

Zille said the current leadership battles in the ANC and its alliance partners had pitted "constitutionalists" against populists who abuse institutions of state to pursue narrow political agendas, who see the constitution as a barrier to their progress and who mobilise on the basis of racial nationalism.

She said this had created contradictions that the ANC was failing to manage.

These contradictions, she said, presented an opportunity for those who are committed to the constitution, non-racialism and a market-driven economy to leave the ANC and join a new political formation.

"The big question is: can a clean break happen in time so that the constitutionalists, wherever they currently find themselves, can build a new majority and implement a plan that defuses the time bomb of youth unemployment?"

Zille said she had spoken to various political figures in and outside the ANC about her proposal.

She said there were many who agreed with her view, but were afraid to move out of their comfort zones.

"The comfort of incumbency too often trumps the insecurity of moving into the unknown," she said.

The DA has been wooing smaller opposition parties to join it in its fight to reduce ANC dominance. It concluded a merger with the Independent Democrats just before the 2011 elections, which resulted in a deal that saw that party's leader Patricia de Lille taking over as mayor of Cape Town.

It has also courted COPE, but that party's internal squabbles, which have resulted in court battles, have overshadowed talks.

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Jonos

Posted 237 days ago
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The clearest thinker in South African politics

muk2

Posted 237 days ago
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"She said there were many who agreed with her view, but were afraid to move out of their comfort zones." - This applies to majority of us humans. This is the difference between leaders and mere mortals. Leaders will put SA first and their pockets second.

SuiGeneris

Posted 237 days ago
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''''Zille has called on "constitutionalists" both within the ANC and in other political parties to "take the plunge" and move out of their comfort zones''''

Do we have selfless leaders who will be prepared to do this in the interest of a better SA ?

No !

They just turn a blind eye as they are mostly driven by self-interest and greed and content with their seat on the gravy-train !

MicaParis

Posted 237 days ago
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I totally support Comrade Zille proposition, she is absolutely right. ANC is characterised by gang stars. If you are not part of the ‘’gang’’ no matter how good a leadership material you are, you will never be elected to lead because the crew in which you fall is not in power. Academics and intellects should come together and challenge the mafia inclined political system which is ravaging South Africa at the moment. We live within the cloud of ‘’false democracy’’ where ‘’only six’’/ few ANC members decide for us who should lead us, come on, we are not that foolish and we will never elect a herd boy to be the President, we are not crazy, what does he know which justify him to be our most apex leader! We want the 50 million South African compatriots to elect the top executive not ‘’few’’ already ‘’bribed’’ illiterate ANC branch chairpersons. We live within the global village ‘’aroma’’ which is characterised by high technology and dynamic social and economic factors which need top academic and social heavy weights to lead and direct, how can a person perform a heart transplant if he is not a cardiologist, we need ‘’specialists’’ to lead not ‘’ANC legendary status’’ or ‘’chief of gang stars’’. We need sizzling academics to lead and direct us, to give us hope and excellent strategic planning to our social and economic problems but we do not need stupid leaders who can only excel in ‘’toyi-toyi’’, have sex and steal our tax money! Some of us within the ANC are not happy to be led by Zuma simply because the poor President does not in any way suit the part it is a miracle to have him as the President and must say his ‘’ANC inclined legendary status’’ is the one which elevated him to the top Presidential throne which he does not absolutely deserve, not even a glance at that!
I agree comrade Zille something unique and special is needed to maintain balance in our political climate.
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Robrt5Mugabe99

Posted 236 days ago
@MicaParis, I think you have miss the plot technically, this is a prove for you that politically you are immature , politics is a science , if you miss this you are down and out.


Knowing very well that the elective conference for DA is nearer, coming with such proposition for Hellen Zille is very rich, provided Lindiwe Mazibuko is suppose to step up. After, long predictions by analysts it has come to conclusion yes indeed that DA is a racists party will never survive under the leadership of a black person. We wont be surpised by Hellen Zille forming her new party should Lindiwe get elected of which DA is on sport light here to prove if they really transformed or not , if they dont elect Lindiwe as a DA leader that would be an end of DA and electing Lindiwe coloreds and whites in the WCape will distance themeselves with DA.

Get up to date with politcs, it has nothing to do with ANC the ANC has exceeded where the apartheid regime failed yes there are minor issues specifically in the Municipal level but stratetigical the ANC is on top
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SuiGeneris

Posted 236 days ago
''''''the ANC has exceeded where the apartheid regime failed yes there are minor issues specifically in the Municipal level but stratetigical the ANC is on top''''''

Hahaha !

minor issues ??????????

Municipal level.....Minor issues ??????

ANC is on top ?????......Of What ? A very narrow ledge, drunk with incompetence and ready to take the inevitable plunge into the bottomless abyss ?

Soon !
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Loggenberg

Posted 236 days ago
@SuiGeneris

The ANC is dead, has been dead for a long time. It's only SARS collections keeping them "moving"
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MicaParis

Posted 236 days ago
Comrade Mugabe!!!!
@MicaParis, I think you have miss the plot technically, this is a prove ''for you'' (delete) that politically you are immature , politics is a science , ''if you miss this you are down and out.'' (rephrase) or delete!
Knowing very well that the elective conference for ''the'' DA is nearer, coming with such proposition for Hellen Zille is very rich, provided Lindiwe Mazibuko is suppose to step up. After, long predictions by analysts it has come to conclusion yes indeed that ''the'' DA is a racists party will never survive under the leadership of a black person. We wont be surpised by Hellen Zille forming her new party should Lindiwe get elected of which DA is on sport light here to prove if they really transformed or not , if they dont elect Lindiwe as a DA leader that would be an end of DA and electing Lindiwe coloreds and whites in the WCape will distance themeselves with DA. (trying to correct your ''blabber'' is nothing but suicide comrade)
Get up to date with politcs *(politics)*, it has nothing to do with ANC the ANC has exceeded where the apartheid regime failed yes there are minor issues specifically in the Municipal level but stratetigical *(strategical)* the ANC is on top ***(rephrase or delete), I can hardly get the meaning***
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Comrade Mugabe, ''go back to school'' so that the ANC can have ''good future prospects'' for the Young Lions or Communists! Are you going to ''write'' like that with your European or American Counterparts or may be talk English with them like that in case you become a ‘’leader’’ and that will be in the 21 century under the new dispensation, clearly they will laugh at you my Chief! Mugabe at list ''doctor'' your comments before posting, even top academics make mistakes and typos, we need to clearly understand what you have written!
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I was former ANCYL Chairperson and Regional Organiser for the ANC. I am currently a SGM in the Presidency, Policy and Legal Developer of the ANC, serving in Presidential Economic Advisory Council and a consultant for Petro SA. I have written many law articles and many media articles in the Daily Maverick and Sunday Independence and other media platforms! Do not be silly you will never find **Mica Paris** in the Presidency or ANC advisory councils or on any media articles as that is not my **real name**! Unlike many ‘’comrades’’ I did not ‘’get deployed’’ where I am but only there on merit and Zuma did not bring me to Presidency, he found me already working there!
My advice to you Mugabe and once more please ****go back to school*** you are a laughing stock on this blog! I am saying that because I love you so much my comrade, get educated, education is the means by which any mortal being can make and talk sense unless you proclaim yourself to have spiritual powers!
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Robrt5Mugabe99

Posted 236 days ago
@MicaParis, Writing comes in different forms, you either write a memo, newspaper article, book, letter, chatting on blog as we are doing here which is not that much high important compared to formal conversations. This is similar to sms codes.


The fact of the matter is, you got what I told you, there issue of being fluent when chatting on a blog is irrelevant , since we are involved on informal conversation.


Coming to my academic background Im quiet convince my qualifications are more superior/technical than yours if I can ask you what have you studied you will tell me of political science or soft subjects.

I am proud of my qualifications very proud and my parents did invest on me.

Since I have known you, it has come to my conclusion that your problem is very serious which relates to reading , understanding and applying your analytical skills which resulted you being under utilised in your workplace

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rahima

Posted 235 days ago
@Robert5Mugarbage

"Im quiet convince my qualifications are more superior/technical than yours"

WA wa. Mine is bigger than yours. Grow up!

Stirrer

Posted 237 days ago
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A united democratic front is long overdue - regroup the mass democtratic movement which consisted of a wide array of non-racial political, civic, educational and religious bodies.

"UDF unites - corruption divides!"

dopla1967

Posted 237 days ago
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It seems as if DA alone will never beat ANC in the polls until Jesus comes. To form a new part against the ANC now is a waste of time. Who will be the leader of the new party ask COPE for answers. All opposition parties in South Africa are useless and led by leaders who are happy to be in Parliament and get paid at the end of the month. DA is a white party with few coconuts around the Madam. My advice to the Madam is to stop day dreaming and cement their position of opposition party in Parliament until grand grand son of Lindiwe Mazibuko becomes a President of this country.

NAC4Life
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i_stub_born

Posted 236 days ago
,,,,,effectively, that happens when the ignorant and uneducated people has been trained to believe that being corrupt is worthy and gives you money without working. The ANC has succeeded in this area by far.......No one approaches an ANC cadre unless he knows how much the bribe is going to be, nor how much is his/her "fee-for-service" to get something done........from the dumbest crumb collectors to the president...........

ANC4 rife(corruption, that is)...........
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bugsy

Posted 236 days ago
@ Dopla: What is wrong with being white and capable? Or Black and capable, or any colour in-between and capable? But you're right, for as long as you guys fall for the "race card" as dealt by the ANC, we'll have an incompetent government, because it'll be based on race, not capability.
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RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 236 days ago
"All opposition parties in South Africa are useless and led by leaders who are happy to be in Parliament and get paid at the end of the month"

Don't thing that is limited to the opposition parties. If half our ministers even bother to turn up in parliament, they sleep through it all.

TshegofatsoTshehla

Posted 237 days ago
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She truly has a head with a desire to for see the future and a clear strategy i understand. Hope the rest of ZAR see it to implement it.

dopla1967

Posted 236 days ago
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If you plan to establish a UDF i am afraid that plan will not work ask COPE. These opposition parties must go to the people and convince them to vote for them instead of wasting their time of establishing something that themselves will fight for leadership.
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Stirrer

Posted 236 days ago
The difference is that the UDF is not limited to people in the mainstream political arena. Imagine an organisation with support of apolitical people like Mamphela Ramphela, Jonathan Jansen, Graca Machel, Desmond Tutu, etc

Loggenberg

Posted 236 days ago
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Majority of South Africans does not have a problem with the direction that SA is on. They want more of the same as long as nobody discriminate against them. As Mandela said: People hated Apartheid more than they hate poverty

UDFSupporter

Posted 236 days ago
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It is such a pity that Helen Zille had to be the one that places this on the table.I agree with Stirrer that what made the UDF powerful was that everyone was welcome to make a contribution. Your political or ethnic origins were of no consequence. We stood united under a banner of freedom for all. It was the returning ANC cadres who made darn sure that the UDF be disbanded and erased from the historical record of how the ordinary citizens overthrew the apartheid government.

elguevara

Posted 236 days ago
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As long as you, the DA and the ANC, continue to collaborate with big business in screwing the unemployed and the workers, that will remain a pipe dream.
Your party continues to be funded by imperialists who continue to exploit our people and the mineral resources.
And now you want the support of smaller parties to prop you up as the Republic's President. Amazing how manipulative and scheming you are!

RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 236 days ago
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Our whole system is a sham. This is not 'democracy' and, as such, it cannot work effectively.

I agree that we need a party which will be a true threat to the ANC but, at the moment, we have so many little niche parties and the spectacular bellyflop by COPE will make it difficult to get a new party off the ground. That makes me question if we can ever have a working democracy in SA. We created mankind here, maybe we should look at creating a new governing system?
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Stirrer

Posted 236 days ago
There are three options to break the ANC's stranglehold :
1) A strong party is formed to challenge the ANC
2) The ANC is divided into splinter breakaway parties
3) A combination of the two

Option 1 will require sacrifice and commitment by the opposition parties.
Option 2 will require credible leaders with large enough followings.
- both these options will take a long time if pursued individually (which we cannot afford - what with all the frenzied feeding going on at the trough)
This leaves Option 3, which should reduce the feeding time available!
(one could argue that this is already happening - the DA already incorporates former independent political parties, and UDM and COPE are examples of breakaway parties)
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RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 236 days ago
Hey there Stirrer,

I'm actually questioning if it wouldn't be better to not have any political parties at all in Africa. The supporters are akin to religious fanatics and (like their zealot cousins) logic is just thrown right out the window. It completely bypasses any thought of what is best for the COUNTRY - instead it turns into some kind of gang war where the allegiance to the 'gang' is more important than anything else. If that wasn't true, we wouldn't have our current President - that is for sure.

What works in the 'west' very often doesn't work in Africa, We have a different way of interacting. That is why I believe that a new form of democracy should be looked at. Maybe taking the US idea of semi independent states and having a representational committee type of set up to run them?
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Stirrer

Posted 236 days ago
Hi MommaCyndi - democracy would work better in our country if the playing fields were more level. The glorious ANC liberation movement was entrusted by the majority to uplift them through service delivery, etc. The failed ANC political party stuffed it up spectacularly, when they eyed the moneytrough and decided to dig in (every man for himself!).
We moved far too quickly into unadulterated Capitalism, which benefitted the rich minority of all shades (and widened an already wide gap), while the majority were desperate for a prolonged program of a more Socialist leaning to uplift them.
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cANCerSurvivor

Posted 236 days ago
New governing system? w w w.the venusproject.com !!

Ruudboy

Posted 236 days ago
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dankie comrade couldnt have said it beta myself

olibo

Posted 236 days ago
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Eish! Imagine another white government eMzansi? If Helen Zille was genuinely concerned about economic freedom, may be her call would have some legitimacy. For some of us who suffered under apartheid, any plan that may take the country back to a white controlled government is a taboo. Mandela's call for reconciliation enabled whites not to feel guilty when they enjoy the wealth of this country whilst the black majority still live in poverty. A better life for all remains a pipe dream. Unfortunately even the ANC political elites have forgoton what the real struggle was about - the economic and political liberation of the black majority. Malema may be corrupt or pretend to be fighting for the poor, but some of waht he ariculates is true - the wealth of this country is still in hands of white people. Policies such as the NDP are meant to pacify black poor people to wait until 2030 to see improvements in their lives, whereas white people are drowning in wealth.

Let Zille and the DA take the fight for economic freedom of the black masses and they will be guaranteed a majority win in 2014 elections.

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RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 236 days ago
Welcome home Rip Van Winkle. Hope you had a nice nap. You may want to go out and look at the new world some time
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ma1c01mx

Posted 232 days ago
olibo well said

Here are couple of things that concerns me.

1. Who will lead the party .Is Ms Zille prepared to come to the table as a concerned politician or as the official opposition.With the latter I foresee problems as this will alienate the others.

2.Ms Zille is already talking of a plan which is drawn up by the DA for implementation.Are the DA prepared to listen to the other minority parties as they will obviously not agree with every thing in that document and they will want to add and remove things as well.

3.Ms Zille are using Ms De Lille as a example which I think is a bad thing reason being that if you join up with the DA then you will be guarenteed a position.Please do not underestimate the South African voter we have evolved irrespective of what is seen and read in the media.

4.The DA wont get my vote as a ordinary worker(which happens to be the majority) because they support employment agency's which take away your right as a citizen of this country for permanent employment.