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Mon May 20 15:04:57 SAST 2013

Zuma tapes no-show

CHANDRÉ PRINCE | 25 October, 2012 00:5035 Comments
President Jacob Zuma
Image by: Daniel Born

President Jacob Zuma's lawyers yesterday failed to meet a court cut-off date to submit an affidavit about the existence and contents of the controversial spy tapes - seven months after the Supreme Court of Appeal ordered the National Prosecution Authority to release its transcripts.

Zuma's lawyer and special adviser Michael Hulley has, according to acting NPA head Nomgcobo Jiba, been in possession of full transcripts of the recordings since April but has not released them to the authorities.

Neither Hulley nor presidential spokesman Mac Maharaj could be reached for comment yesterday.

DA MP James Selfe, who successfully lodged a court case to obtain the recordings on behalf of his party, said last night the DA had not received any documentation or tapes from Zuma.

The reluctance to shed light on the spy tapes might result in:

  • The DAasking the courts to proceed with a high court case to test the NPA's decision to drop charges of racketeering, corruption, fraud and money-laundering against Zuma before the 2009 election;
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  • COPE president Mosiuoa Lekota calling for Zuma's impeachment over his alleged disregard for the constitution and rule of law; and
  • Former Special Investigating Unit deputy Faiek Davids questioning the existence and legality of the tapes.

Selfe said Zuma's "lack of respect for the rule of law" placed the DA in a "very difficult position".

"We will have to approach the court to proceed with the case without the documents or tapes. This is absolutely inappropriate," said Selfe.

Even he now has doubts that the tapes exist.

"I'm not at all sure if they do. As each day passes it becomes more and more clear that there is no evidence, documents or tapes that the NPA's decision [to drop charges] were based on."

He said if the tapes did exist, the only possible explanation for the reluctance to release them was "a delaying tactic to avoid the case going to court before Mangaung".

The tapes have been a closely guarded state secret since their existence came to the fore in 2009 and have become a nightmare for Zuma and the NPA.

In April 2009, then acting national director of public prosecutions Mokotedi Mpshe dropped corruption charges against Zuma after he made presentations to the NPA.

The DA has argued that the spy tapes - which allegedly contained intercepted recordings of conversations between senior political and judicial officials - and the controversy around the way in which the charges were subsequently dropped, could be put to rest if the matter were deliberated in a court.

Selfe said the matter had resulted in "unprecedented business" that raised serious questions about respect for the law.

Citing Zuma's "tangled" legal affairs and his failure to adhere to court orders, Lekota called on 50 parliamentarians to "rescue our country from hurtling into chaos under a president too self-centred to care what harm he causes and what danger he exposes [it to] ."

Lekota said he would garner opposition support to call for Zuma's impeachment.

Alongside the DA court matter is a Labour Court dispute involving former SIU head Willie Hofmeyr and Davids that goes to the heart of the spy tapes. The two men have been involved in a bitter legal wrangle after Hofmeyr fired Davids in 2010 over an alleged conversation that reportedly was included on the Zuma tapes.

Davids filed a labour dispute against the SIU in which Hofmeyr testified about the contents of a recorded conversation between Davids and former Scorpions boss Leonard McCarthy.

Last year, the Commission for Conciliation, Mediation and Arbitration ruled in Davids' favour, saying the spy tapes and intercepts of the conversations were obtained in contravention of the Regulation of Interception of Communication Act.

Davids now also questions the existence and authenticity of the tapes.

In an affidavit, Davids says not only did Hofmeyr rely on illegally obtained evidence to dismiss him, but the National Intelligence Agency has no record of his alleged conversation with McCarthy.

"Quite apart from the fact that if the evidence existed at all, it would have been illegally obtained and inadmissible, my objection to this evidence was further premised on the apparent reliance on certain assumptions that were not and are not conceded by me," Davids says.

He further states that the admission of "illegally obtained evidence would be detrimental to the furtherance of justice".

Davids stresses that at the time of filing the affidavit in July the recordings had still not surfaced, despite Hofmeyr pleading with the Office for Interception Centres for a copy in November last year.

ZUMA SPY TAPES TIMELINE

2007:Former Special Investigating Unit deputy head Faiek Davids and former Scorpions boss Leonard McCarthy are recorded discussing the ANC leadership battles.

April 2009:Acting prosecuting authority head Mokotedi Mpshe drops corruption and fraud charges against Jacob Zuma. Mpshe finds that suspected connivance between McCarthy and former NPA boss Bulelani Ngcuka in relation to Zuma's case amounts to "intolerable abuse".

November 2010:Davids is axed following an apparently irreparable breakdown in trust between him and former Special Investigating Unit head Willie Hofmeyr.

September 2011: The spy tapes are declared illegal during a labour dispute between Hofmeyr and Davids.

April 2012:Supreme Court of Appeal orders the NPA to hand over transcripts of the tapes.

October 24:NPA and Zuma miss deadline to hand over transcripts of the tapes.

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SecretVoice

Posted 207 days ago
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One day in the not too distant future the people of South Africa will want his scalp. I hope and trust his bunkers in Nkandla will be able to protect him otherwise it will be a very ugly affair.
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fransvan_erk

Posted 207 days ago
No Secret Voice, not one red Indian, coloured or white man is interested in a black skin without hair. His scull maybe to cover the hollows with his skin and use it as a little drum.

l984

Posted 207 days ago
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So what is it going to be: A constitutional democracy and state of law and order - or a jungle where anything goes and it is every man for himself?

TjoVtjo

Posted 207 days ago
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The tapes are on his ipod.

l984

Posted 207 days ago
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h t t p://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/why-the-desperation-to-hide-the-zuma-spy-tapes-from-us/

AfricaRevolt2011

Posted 207 days ago
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"I only need one term in office like Madiba" Jacob Zuma 2007. I don't think these tapes exists. Comrades we have a crook in the highest office in the land, that is not only probabbly corrupt but has displayed a complete disregard of the rule of law. Viva Msholozi.

RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 207 days ago
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geez, how long does it take to doctor some tapes? 'cause guaranteed, that is what is happening.

I still find it incredible that illegally obtained, super secret material was used as a defense in a criminal court. It is also mindblowing that no criminal charges were instituted against whomever illegally tapped the phones in the first place.

Thank the gods that our country isn't at war. Secretly and illegally taping our President and Pubic Prosecutor are, apparently, not crimes
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Loggenberg

Posted 207 days ago
I still find it incredible that illegally obtained, super secret material was used as a defense in a criminal court.
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The "tapes" was used to keep them away from court. Mokotedi Mpshe got a nice job for his effort. Where is he? Still a credible legal guy?

There are no tapes. Zuma is splurging on Nkandla as he expects to go to jail after his term.
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TjoVtjo

Posted 207 days ago
@ Loggenberg

Dude you must be joking. The guy is building a bunker with a helipad and a clinic. That dude is not planning on going to jail, or any where for that matter. That man drives a Volvo. He's there "For life". The writing's on the wall!
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TjoVtjo

Posted 207 days ago
@ Gedleyihlekiza

Tjo Charlie. You're a bit of a flip flopper. Just yesterday you were shouting death to the sellouts who think that the D(aft) A(alliance) should win. Hell, some of us weren't considered black enough cause we didn't know the hood. Now today, the DA should win??? Yes it's those politics of expedience again. Super ANC supporter you are.

Must be in the water they serve at the branch meetings!!!
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Gedleyihlekiza

Posted 206 days ago
TjoVtjo
My definition is a stall ward ANC cadre who is sick about shenanigans and meagre which comrades are currently displaying. If you where an intellect, you will tell by typical of my constructive criticism and honesty that I do not support and protect corruption but say the facts, honesty and reality as it happens on any South African current affairs. Unlike you, nowhere in my comments will you ever find me telling people that they are fools or stupid, because I respect others as I respect myself.
I only oppose on facts and merits not on insults and blabber like you are doing, grow up, you sound too much like an alien on Timeslive! Using Mandela avatar does not mean I should defend the ANC even if they are wrong, I will still criticise to build our beloved NDM! Read my above comment and learn how intellects strategise to plot a downfall, Zuma will target those sections to express himself as well and please, stop commenting mediocre, we are not in high school here but building a country! You will hate to be in this platform if I can target you!

SuiGeneris

Posted 207 days ago
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Just impeach him.
Hopefully they can then also nail him for perjury while testifying under oath !
The timing would also coincide nicely just before the next elections while he would be hoping to gain more popularity.
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Stirrer

Posted 207 days ago
I agree that impeachment is the way to go - this man has no respect for our legal system!

buddi

Posted 207 days ago
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I don't think the tapes exist - they were used as an excuse to keep him out of jail, and the person who withdrew the charges has now been favoured.
Has anyone ever seen or heard the tapes? Someone should just reinstate the 700+ charges, and see what happens!

Thuka-Thuka

Posted 207 days ago
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So he's disposed of Malema and Cele. One, or both, of these guys are bound to know something. Perhaps they're just waiting for the right time to start singing like a canary...

KgakgamatsoPhatlane

Posted 207 days ago
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Can someone in the NIA be brave enough an leak the damn tapes...and save SA from this dictator....all in the name of patriotism. Its time for the media to prove their investigative journalism skills with this. Someone from the Mbeki era must have this key content on his hard-drive somewhere....PLS HELP
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buddi

Posted 207 days ago
Unfortunately, if the tapes don't exist, like many of us believe, they can't be leaked. I would imagine that they would have to resurface if the charges are reinstated.

m1si2zi3nzo4

Posted 207 days ago
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It is misguided and unfair to expect Zuma to respect and uphold law and the constitution. He is the chief, who makes his own rules, and all his subjects must just follow them. The man broke all generally acceptable rules and laws to get to office, even 'apologising' for his utterances on AIDS. He even questioned 'whose morals' he should apply as a head of state. To him his culture is paramount - multi-weddings; a mountain of kids with tentacles spread throughout public resources (for life); etc. Moreover, he has stated repeatedly that he does not understand these economic-related definitions, but has experienced poverty first-hand. The concept of corruption is unknown in his neck of woods, except 'helping a friend by using funds from the public'. He has publicly defined himself above all mortals, and has never shown signs of changing, except the statements his cronies keep asking him to read in public, for their own survival. Even the Womens' League has stopped agitating for equality, and understands that their lucrative positions are tied to servicing him, to stay in power - and on top, literally.
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SuiGeneris

Posted 207 days ago
This ''man'' is the biggest disgrace this country has ever seen.
It is simply beyond comprehension how he ever got to this position of president !
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SuiGeneris

Posted 207 days ago
The opposition parties are handling him too softly.
They should antagonise him daily and put tremendous pressure on him to get his act together.
The more pressure they apply, the more he will falter and show his weaknesses for all to see !
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Loggenberg

Posted 207 days ago
Sui,

Almost 66% of South Africans voted for this man to be president. Nothing has changed. Maybe it's time that south Africans look in the mirror. Maybe they will see how "this man" can make it to the highest office in the land

I agree with m1si2zi3nzo4. You cannot vote for him then expect him to change. You don't park a beetle in a garage and wake up to find a Ferrari. Be happy with YOUR choice

Black-Moses

Posted 207 days ago
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This head honcho, has crushed all the state laws imaginable, just to get to the highest office in the land.
No interest for the country whatsoever, other than his extra large family of crooks. South Africa is doomed as long as this buffoon is at the helm.

SindiM

Posted 207 days ago
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This is a self serving strategic move on JZ's part with no regard for law. This is all about Mangaung and I will not be surprised if the spy tapes come out in January after Mangaung. He knows that if these are made public now, ABZ group, Mothlante's together with Mbeki's supportes will use this information to lobby against his election in Mangaung.
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Black-Moses

Posted 207 days ago
The so-called spy tapes only exist in the sense of imagination. The man is pure hubris and his advisers [if any ] are genuine hopeless, intellectual debris.

Tokolosh

Posted 207 days ago
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We are at the bottom of the downward spiral! Sinking in the mud or going back up, let’s see who wins!

ProgressiveAfricanDemocrat

Posted 207 days ago
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One of the reasons former President Mbeki (we are reliably told) did not want Jacob Zuma to become presdent was that he and his followers will not have respect for the country's democratic processes and institutions. Mbeki could not have been more right because events over the past five years clearly back this view. The Scorpions were disbanded just to make sure that Zuma and his cronies never have to face the wrath of the law. The Hawks are now answerable to politicians, and even after the Constitutional Court declared that they are not sufficiently independent, Jacob Zuma has still not come up with legislation to rectify this situation. The NPA has an Acting Director who really has to tread carefully to make sure that she is confirmed and besides her has husband was granted a presidential pardon. The Special Investigation Unit still awaits a new head after Willem Heath who helped Zuma escape charges of fraud and corruption, had to be ditched after his irresponsible and baseless utterances. Dikgang Moseneke was sidelined when he had to be appointed Chief Justice, in favour of Mogoeng Mogoeng a junior. But as some of us said, even though we thought Mogoeng was not the appropriate candidate, as a committed Christian he had the right makeup to live to his conscience and ensure that the court is independent thus defeating the nefarious aims and activities of those who wanted the CC to be accountable to politicians. He has so far shown that he cannot be manipulated.

And now Jacob Zuma and his lawyer have failed to comply with a court order. This is really despicable. Where are the tapes or transcripts as ordered by the court? If the president does not respect our democratic institutions and processes who will?

And now Jacob Zuma and his followers are also not showing respect to the democratic processes of the ANC. ANC branches are not free to deliberate on the issues of leadership but yet we have supporters of the Jacob Zuma in the form of MKMVA threatening everyone from Kgalema Motlanthe , Matthews Phosa, Fikile Mbalula, Thandi Modise and others. Never in the history of the ANC from the days of Albert Luthuli, Oliver Tambo, Nelson Mandela and Thabo Mbeki was MK ever used as a private army of a politician, and in this case Jacob Zuma. First, many of these guys who claim to be MK military veterans are just poltical charlatans who never took part in the war against apartheid. Even they threaten ANC branches and members of the ANC who are busy fulfilling their constitutional obligations, Jacob Zuma and Gwede Mantashe are conveniently quiet. Let us not forget that there are not that many of these political charlatans masquerading as MK compared to the millions of youth in this country. Millions of youth in this country say they no longer want Jacob Zuma as president, and not even these political charlatans can force him down their throats.

Jacob Zuma and his lawyer, Michael Hulley should do the right thing, obey a court order and produce the tapes. Or they do not want ANC branches to know the lies that got Jacob Zuma off the hook. This is really a shame!

AfricaRevolt2011

Posted 207 days ago
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Mr President, where are the tapes? Can someone phone the presedential hotline if it still exists and ask about the tapes?

ChwamaMahlulo

Posted 207 days ago
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@Progressive African Democrat. Your comment demonstrates the fact that you really understand your country politics as all the points you highlited are absolutely correct. Secondly, this has been long overdue for SA citizens that voted for this criminal over what SA needs. Further, it's the 1st time that every comment about this article is not defending (Inkintsela yase Nkandla) uZuma. He deserves 2b called by this name as he's leading SA 2b a land of lawlessness. Impeachment is the only solution for this thief dictator. I wonder what are his political prosttutes like Gwede, Jackson Mthembu, Angie Motshega, Nathi Mthethwa, Mlibo Qoboshiyane, Cwele, Hannekom,Thulas Nxesi, Jeff Radebe, Ace Magashule etc are saying when they made so much noise for this criminal? Or they have not made enough money for their strugle for their stomachs as they new all along the inexistance of these trascripts.

AfricaRevolt2011

Posted 207 days ago
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Lekota is right, Zuma should be impeached and there is a reasonable chance of success. Even the ANC in parliament is divided about this man. It is a risk worth taking.

ChwamaMahlulo

Posted 207 days ago
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@Progressive African Democrat. Your comment demonstrates the fact that you really understand your country politics as all the points you highlited are absolutely correct. Secondly, this has been long overdue for SA citizens that voted for this criminal over what SA needs. Further, it's the 1st time that every comment about this article is not defending (Inkintsela yase Nkandla) uZuma. He deserves 2b called by this name as he's leading SA 2b a land of lawlessness. Impeachment is the only solution for this thief dictator. I wonder what are his political prostitutes like Gwede, Jackson Mthembu, Angie Motshega, Nathi Mthethwa, Mlibo Qoboshiyane, Cwele, Hannekom,Thulas Nxesi, Jeff Radebe, Ace Magashule etc are saying when they made so much noise for this criminal? Or they have not made enough money for their strugle for their stomachs as they new all along the inexistance of these trascripts.

buddi

Posted 207 days ago
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In the apartheid days I used to be ashamed to be a white South African and nothing I could say could defend the policies of the country.
Now, I am equally ashamed.

m1si2zi3nzo4

Posted 207 days ago
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A louse lives off a human body, without obeying the rules. It cannot be arrested for breaching one's right to bodily integrity, because it can plead ignorance, if it could. Similarly, barbarianism knows no rules, except the kill-or-be-killed one, a natural element of both animals and the louts.

rahima

Posted 207 days ago
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I believe that there never were tapes and there never will be tapes.

It was one big ANCpf lie to loophole for 783. What a disaster he has been for SA.

WillGranzier

Posted 207 days ago
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Chuck Norris can find those tapes....... !

WillGranzier

Posted 207 days ago
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And I bet you Chuck Norris can sort Malema out as well !