I think the fate of the ANC is in who they choose to lead the organisation. For me, if Ramaphosa's decision is not to accept the nomination, it tells me that his priorities are elsewhere and frankly it's a vote of no confidence in Zuma. With all the recent news around Zuma, I think he'd be well advised to stay as far away as possible....

Doubt this Ramaphosa will stand with the CORRUPT ZUMA....

If he does, that will be the end of his Mac Donalds empire....

I don't favour this guy after Marikana. As far as I am concerned, he is a puppet, just like Phosa.

While I have no doubt the position of deputy pres. in the ANC and RSA is very important and will play a very important role in the future of the ANC and RSA, BUT it is the ANC's policies and how/if they implement them correctly, that emerge from Manguang that will determine its fate ultimately !

In particular:
1) Their policies around empowering those +-15.5 million people living under the tribal authorities rule, who have no land in their name and thus cannot even get a simple bank loan ! The ANC needs to fight the good fight on these peoples behalf against decades and centuaries of poor governance and OFTEN abuse of power by those very tribal authorities. Those good honest poverty stricken people require title deeds to be empowered, the ANC MUST negotiate with the tribal authorities to give each and every family who earns less than "x" a month, a title deed and land in their name! These people need/require and ultimately will DEMAND liberty, in every sense of the word....and if the ANC is not going to liberate them.....someone or something else will !

2)Their policies around good, clean, transparent governance and how they deal with greed, self-enrichment, corruption, nepotism and cronyism! They and RSA cannot and should NOT be seen as an "animal farm" , where some are considered more equal than others.....this perception(true or false) MUST be challenged and changed for the benefit of all.....without fear or favour!

3) Their micro and macro-economic policies, job creation and the implementation thereof! In essence.....much more sowing and way less reaping is required!

4) Basic education and how they plan to fix the rot.

5) Taking a firm stand and implementing and/or renewing their policies to eradicate the racialism, tribalism and factionalism that has recently come to forefront on multiple levels....unfortunately!

Thats my 2 c worth!

he will never turned down that nomination, Cryril was supposed to be a president after Mandela but things changed. now its his oportunity to become a president in 2019

I don't think that Cosatu or Zuma will allow Cyril to be voted that high up in the party. The last thing they will want is someone with a strong personality.

It depends on how desperately Cyfril wants to become president. Some of us saw this coming a long time ago that desperate Zuma supporters who know that their candidate has no credibility will turn to Cyril Ramaphosa in order to confuse ANC supporters. They probably think that he is desperate enough to become president. Cyril Ramaphosa and Kgalema Motlanthe are both men of integrity. Both believe that all South Africans are equal before the law. They are both former General Secretary of National Union of Mineworkers. But there are differences between the two gentlemen. kgalema Motlanthe had access to state secrets and intelligence when he was president and whatever he saw must have made him sick to the stomach. It is okay to defend a man out of ignorance but once you dicover the big stench, it is very difficult to do so. Ramaphosa has got no idea what acob Zuma's legal woes are like, but when dets access to state secrets and intelligence he is going to puke. And then he will realise that he has been used. At that time he will have to decide whether he wants to play along with deliberate falsehoods and deception or listen to his conscience. If he flinches Zuma supporters are going to replace him with Zweli Mkhize. Ramaphosa and Trevor Manuel should know that they have been used in the Julius Malema disciplinary hearing to take out a man who was a big threat to Jacob Zuma's second term. If Ramaphosa decides to cline the nomination, if Zuma supporters do not trust Motlanthe, they will just nominate Zweli Mkhize from the floor. But they ae not sure that it is a good idea to nominate Mkhize from the floor, because they do not want the Top Six contested as that will expose divisions and the rigging and fraud that took place during provincial nominations. Only a foold cannot see that the reuslts from provincial nominations are deeply flawed. The results from Limpopo, Gauteng , Northern Cape, and Western Cape are normal and democratic outcomes. But the results from KZN, Free State, Mpumalanga and North-West clearly show manipulation of ANC processes. How does one explain Motlanthe not getting a single vote in the Free State, 5 votes in KZN, 17 votes in Mpumalanga and 14 votes in North-West. This is the dishonesty and fraud that will kill the ANC. This fraud started in KZN and Mpumalanga and has now being repeated with success also in Free State and North-West. It is eventually going to prevail in Gauteng, Western Cape and Limpopo, turn the ANC completely into a Zanu-PF like outfit. Ramaphosa will be well-advised to say NO and stop this fraud or he could decide to sell his soul for a mess of pottage. The choice is with him, and the next 6 days will decide what he is made out of.

The split in the ANC(orruption) was always going to become a reality. And many will debate the various reasons why this is happening. My take on it is that there is so much money to be made that people will step on each others faces to get to it. If you examine the huge salaries, perks, tenders and power (immunity to prosecution) that comes with being on the inside, it is no wonder they are literally killing each other to get in.
Ask them to do it for the people and you will find an empty parliament building!

Mothlanthe a man of integrity???..His lack of spine and statements with bloopers show him as a man prone to disintegration rather........

Ramaphosa former NUM......did he ever claimed for the Aurora miners....still unpaid by the "Ursus' sized Khulubuse and that Mandela relative??.......Could he have done something else to avoid the Marikana killings, thanks to which Zuma awarded himself a Marikana Platinum Shick II medal???........

Politics is such a dirty and dishonest game. No one can explain why Ramaphosa cannot replace Zuma in Mangaung, if he is the 'savior' of the ANC. If, really, the ANC's 'fate' lies in his hands, why could he not change its unstoppable fall as an very important NEC member and a DC head? Can he curb Zuma's excesses and corruption as his direct employee, when he couldn't as his colleague? Surely, he carries more clout as an NEC member than as accountable to the president.

If Zuma knows 'what he is doing' then why not continue with the status quo? Or are his supporters anticipating his arrest and thus their loss of control of the state coffers? If he is an ANC leader, then why is he carried by anything but the ANC itself? All we hear is the SACP, WL, and the provinces led by his appointees, as his support base. Or is there still any ANC to talk about?

Even the media is deeply involved in this skulduggery, and confusing everyone else.

Why does Cyril have to go through being deputy-president before becoming president? Surely he is more skilled than Zuma? I think he will make a good president (just like Africa's greatest statesman, Thabo Mbeki, was)! Their priorities will be very similar, unlike this dude who is hell-bent on feathering his own nest!