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Mon May 20 02:33:35 SAST 2013

Twelve million going to bed hungry in SA

GRAEME HOSKEN | 30 January, 2013 00:00
Education in the Eastern Cape
Queueing for food at a school in Eastern Cape Picture: SHELLEY CHRISTIANS
Image by: The Times / Shelley Christians / Gallo Images

More than 12million South Africans will go to bed hungry tonight.

Though this country produces sufficient food for its population, skyrocketing prices prevent the poor - most of them urban households - from getting adequate nutrition .

The hungriest people are in Cape Town (80%) and Msunduzi, in KwaZulu-Natal (87%).

A five-year study by the University of Cape Town's African Food Security Unit Network has exposed a food crisis that constitutes a "death sentence" for many and which the government has labelled as "serious".

It found that, in Johannesburg, 43% of the poor faced starvation and malnutrition. Researchers believe the figure could be higher.

According to the UN Food and Agricultural Organisation, 870 million people worldwide are chronically undernourished, 234million of them living in sub-Saharan Africa.

The plight of the hungry was highlighted in 2011 when four children, aged between two and nine, died in a farmer's field as they began an 18km walk in search of their mother and food in Verdwaal, North West. It was later discovered that they had not eaten for more than a week.

The Department of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries last week revealed that 12million South Africans are "food insecure".

Food security refers to the ability to access adequate nutrition - food that is affordable, hygienic and culturally accepted.

Food Bank SA spokesman Keri Uys said yesterday: "South Africa is in dire straights. The entire country is affected. It is not just rural areas.

"Every day millions of people go to be bed hungry. There are children whose daily food is half a white-bread sandwich. How can you bring up a nation on this?"

"The implication is a death sentence."

The network's Dr Jane Battersby-Lennard said the University of Cape Town study focused on poor areas in 11 cities in the Southern African Development Community, including Cape Town, Johannesburg and Msunduzi.

The survey covered 1060 households in each city.

Battersby-Lennard said the number of South Africans subject to food insecurity could be far higher than the survey suggested.

"The figures from the surveyed cities show 77% of all households were either moderately or severely food insecure.

"When it comes to South Africa, two of the surveyed cities were higher than this, which is dire. The challenge of food security in our cities is greater than imagined."

She said the problem was access to adequate nutrition, not the availability of food.

"This is because of poverty. People are simply too poor to buy food. On top of this, poor areas have seven times fewer supermarkets than rich areas, making it a struggle to access nutritional food.

"This forces households, especially those that run out of money before the end of the month, to borrow and buy food on credit.

"If supermarkets do move to these [poor] areas it often forces informal food traders out of business, making people more food insecure."

She said the government had identified food security as a "critical challenge".

"Though a higher proportion of rural households face food insecurity, when you look at the different scales of food insecurity - which range from mild to moderate and severe - more urban households fall within the severe food insecurity category.

"Severe food insecurity means households are forced to cut back on meal sizes and numbers, with people going hungry for days. Our urban population is facing severe malnourishment."

The study found two distinct heightened hunger periods - January, and during winter. On average, the poorest households surveyed spent 53% of their income on food.

Department of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries spokesman Palesa Mokomele said that if 12million people were subject to food insecurity it implied that about 4million households faced starvation.

"These are families often relying on only one kind of food, such as maize, often not in regular supply.

"The government is concerned ... it is a crisis."

Joe Kgobokoe, the department's chief director for food security and agrarian reform, said a "host of programmes" addressed the crisis.

"[The department] promotes food gardens at homes and schools, and assists rural smallhold ers to produce food."

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Mike123

Posted 109 days ago
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Who cares?! Let's spend more money on Nkandla!

RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 109 days ago
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The one redeeming thing about Manto was her implementation of food fortification. I shudder to think where we would be now without it.

The discrepancy between farm gate prices and end user prices is a big factor. Transport, Cosatu and Sasol also play their parts. The manipulation of the cost of living index doesn't help much either.

Gormogon1

Posted 109 days ago
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Zuma sits on his mountain of tax payers’ money and laughs.

Duzula

Posted 109 days ago
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And this Government spend R200 Million on one people, and we still going to vote for the ANC.
This is just sickening, people of South Africa wake up and bring change.

Robrt010Mugabe99

Posted 109 days ago
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As a member of the ANC in good standing I would like to dismiss this report as complete fallacy, nt that Im defending the ANC. It is the ANC govt that proposed grants for orphanages these people dont know what they want to spread about our country, all the above comments about R200m is just hatred and hiding the truth that since 1913 Land Act of the barbaric apartheid racists left black people without land, live stock where they were making living by milking cattles for maas, it must be clear that since people were pushed into the ghettos by these barbaric apartheid racists black lives changed to extreme poverty.
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buddi

Posted 109 days ago
If you really believe in your namesake, go back to Zimbabwe - they now have $217 in their bank account.
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deebee

Posted 109 days ago
"As a member of the ANC in good standing..."

Sorry Bob, but that statement makes everything that follows complete rubbish. The ANC has become the enemy of the people; the ANC is racist; the ANC is unpatriotic - it is filled with bloody agents!
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Duzula

Posted 109 days ago
@RM99
Wake up man.
And you blame apartheid for all this corruption in the ANC government...
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Robrt010Mugabe99

Posted 109 days ago
@Duzula
Posted 5 minutes ago


govt corruption is nt linked to a black mans hunger/poverty/unemployment, as I said black people were nt dependant on the state they had their own wealth which is livestocks,(cattles,goats,chickens,sheeps,horses,land etc) after they were pushed into the ghettos thats when hunger started. listen from me who is from the farm (talking about something I know nt hearsay, Im here kwa Nongoma, with cattles our parents sent us to universities, being polygamists with 30 children all children go to universities (Ongoye) today you cant have that life, come here kwa Nongoma for understudy how black man lives. On top of that govt provides grants, the report should tell us there are people who wre left out who must be registered for grants, make use of your head, think.
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RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 109 days ago
sustenance farming won't feed a whole country
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deebee

Posted 109 days ago
Momma Cyndi

I think you mean subsistence farming! Sustenance farming probably would feed everyone! :)
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Robrt010Mugabe99

Posted 109 days ago
@RSA.MommaCyndi
Posted 11 minutes ago


farming is business, people have different goals, in each and every business, others want to create jobs for other, others need legacy,others aspired by creativity/innovations , others want better life for themselves with their families,greediness, etc it is nt correct to say when you venture into business it is because you want to meet the needs of the entire society in the world

As I told you our grandfathers were polygamists with 30 children all of them were afforded an opportunity to go to universities.
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RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 109 days ago
Deebee,
LoL
Damn dyslexia :-P Thanks for fixing that

Bob Moogabe,
Then the tooth mouse and tinkerbell petitioned santa for some lovely socks
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Mahen

Posted 109 days ago
What about all the other african countries that are even worse off than SA?

Was it also the white man that stole from them or was it the black dictators who robbed their own kind and are still watching them starve?

You clearly are an ANC fool who thinks that they can only blame the white man for all their ills.

Keep on voting for thieves and lets see how much worse the masses will suffer

buddi

Posted 109 days ago
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Why not send them to the New Age breakfasts?

Jakes_Mathews#

Posted 109 days ago
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Of course they will go to bed hungry until they learn to vote with their heads or continue suffering from ANC schizophrenia until they die for real! I will never trust a political party as a human being which its leaders believe that a penis of a person is worth being striking for while people go to bed hungry? Is really a penis that important in some other peoples eyes?

Wiseguy

Posted 109 days ago
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Nobody is saying this problem of severe food shortage and mal-nutrition is the ANC's fault(@Mugabe).....but these are the REAL problems we have in this country!! Yes, and they are massive.....YES!!!

We as a nation, can have no time(as in ZERO) for self-enriching political leadership!! The tasks we face, as a nation, are of huge proportions, we do not have the luxury, nor can we afford the luxury of lining our senior politicians nests(with public funds) comrade Mugabe! WE need political leadership that puts the needs and the aspirations of the people FIRST.....and that means ALL the people!

This study was done mainly in peri-urban and urban areas.....it did NOT look at our rural areas or those under traditional leadership(undemocratically imposed rule) where the problems is MIUCH worse! Yet, the traditional leaders can do no wrong in the eyes of the ANC ?? The ANC government must, if it still wants to be considered the governmenet of the people, eject all compromised, self-enriching candidates(regardless of position) and put the people of this country FIRST! It should also enter into negotiations with the traditional leadership to bestow title deeds on those 15.5 million people living under the tradional leaders rule! This will empower those people tremendously and empower the entire nation with its positive economic spin-offs! No title deeds for these people----no more public money for traditional leaders!
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buddi

Posted 109 days ago
It may not be the anc's fault entirely, but, as government, it is their responsibility to solve the problem, and spending millions on themselves is not helping the situation.
I don't think the anc has the vaguest idea where to start with solving the many problems this country has got.
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Robrt010Mugabe99

Posted 109 days ago
May be there is something I dont know, explain to me what do you mean by title deed in the communal areas, please educate me , all what I know or have done I went to the Traditional Chief for "certificate of land wonership" I went to the bank for a loan. May be there is something I dont understand, and please if you are nt from the villages/rural area plse dont argue

Wiseguy

Posted 109 days ago
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My Login to timeslive is being systematically blocked by someone or something! Apologies...?

@Mugabe.....do you have any idea how many freedoms (and some responsibilities-yes!) come with a title deed to the land a person lives on ? Can you imagine cutting out all that tribalistic/cultural "red tape" ? This country would take off economically and if every other sense of the word ! Entrepeneurs(real/proper ones) would flourish......government just needs to facilitate the process!

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Robrt010Mugabe99

Posted 109 days ago
still nt clear with your explanation, as I said to you the bank doesnt need title deed if you want to setup a business under communal land they need "certificate of land ownership" which is signed by Traditional Chief . I went to Vryehid Land Bank branch the lady working there showed me samples of these letters from other applicants as I said dont comment if you nt from the villages because you are talking of hearsay.

Stirrer

Posted 109 days ago
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The acceleration of chronic hunger worldwide has got to be linked to global Capitalism. Until unadulterated Capitalism is abandoned or transformed into a more socialist-friendly economic system, we will see this unfortunate trend of worldwide hunger expanding.
There is enough food in the world to feed everyone, but the unsustainable Capitalist economic system determines who is fed, and who remains hungry!
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Black-Moses

Posted 109 days ago
Is the chronic hunger in Zim linked to global ''Capitalism''?

Wiseguy

Posted 109 days ago
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@Mugabe!
2012 Nov 22, city press...."FNB’s CEO for home loans, Jan Kleynhans, said: “FNB does not grant mortgage loans to individual applicants for residential properties that are developed on tribal land, as the individual properties are not held under separate title.”

The same at almost all banks!

From the same article, "FNB’s Kleynhans, said: “Legally, people who currently live on land owned by a tribal authority have no claim to ownership of the land but only rights of occupation.”

He said “in principle” the bank granted “several types of loans” secured in various ways including “rights of cession and traditional mortgage loans”.

“Only on exceptional grounds does the bank grant such loans which are not secured by a traditional mortgage bond and where there is an adequate form of security on the loan. These loans are reviewed on a case by case basis and granted based on low risk and minimal exposure to the bank,” he said.

FNB was asked how many bonds it issued using “permission to occupy” certificates as security in KwaZulu-Natal but had not yet responded."
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Robrt010Mugabe99

Posted 109 days ago
You see you are talking about something I dont have intersts thereof, I was telling you about business loan specifically in farming thats the reason I said Land Bank in Vryheid in Kwa Zulu Natal processed my application with what I told you, even Ithala bank is what they do, dont tell me about bonds Im talking about something I know

Wiseguy

Posted 109 days ago
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@Mugabe...."they need "certificate of land ownership" which is signed by Traditional Chief ." Ok, so what if the chief doesn't like you or for whatever subjective reason decides that person is not worthy of his/her time!! Then what?
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Robrt010Mugabe99

Posted 109 days ago
Intersting question , remember when your father asked to settle under a certain chief he was given a site to build and site to plough , thats is when you ask for that certificate, if the chief gives you a permission to settle in his area ask for that certificate , and he cant give you if he denied you a permission to settle in his place, mind you if you are a trouble maker in the area thats you problem
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Robrt010Mugabe99

Posted 109 days ago
take for instance Chief Mangosuthu Buthelezi granting Julius Malema a permission to settle in his place , ist possible?

Wiseguy

Posted 109 days ago
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@Mugabe..."if you are a trouble maker in the area thats you problem ", and "trouble maker" is defined by the laws of RSA or the subjective "tradional laws"! What if someone is deemed bewichted or the chiefs cousin wants that particular parcel of land they reside on....they are stuffed aren't they??

Are these "trouble makers" entitled to their constitutionally outlined human rights as signed by the honourable Mr Mandela?
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Robrt010Mugabe99

Posted 109 days ago
It is under customery law, thats ther reason I gave you a clear example of Malema vs Buthelezi and that was one of the priorities of Chief Justice if you follow/remember well on his interview to empower traditional courts even Zuma reiterated the call. All in all people like myself have no such animosities with our chiefs its only you who want to demonise our chiefs following the footsteps of apartheid who destroyed our traditional leaders.

If I may ask under which Chief do you belong to

Mzungu

Posted 109 days ago
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And not a single VEG garden in sight when you drive thru the rural areas. So many projects were started up but they rather sell the seedlings and the implements or just plainly ruin the setup by steeling the place empty.

Hunger is then well deserved, not? Pity for the children.

Sitting under a tree doing nothing else then counting there grants, is better, neh?
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RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 109 days ago
In all fairness, a lot have tried to start their own little veggie gardens but it just gets lost to theft the minute night falls. Humans have always found it easier to take stuff rather than do the work themselves and rural areas are no different to the rest of the world
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Mzungu

Posted 109 days ago
pffft....."stealing", "their"
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Mzungu

Posted 109 days ago
@Momma: that's what I said, stealing the place empty. Must be their nature, hey. And I cannot call this "fairness" because that would mean that I lower my standards to their level.
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RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 109 days ago
The point I was trying to make is that a lot of the folk do TRY to grow their own veggies but it is a bit like spitting against the wind.

Wiseguy

Posted 109 days ago
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@Mugabe..."All in all people like myself have no such animosities with our chiefs "...you may not/cannot or you would be off "your land" before you could say CAPICHE!

I hail no chief and belong to noone but have allegiance the land and ALL its people comrade Mugabe!
BTW, and for the record I am NOT trying to demonise your or ANY tribal chiefs but am commenting on issues of governance and how it affects the people living under that system of governance !! Big difference! Like Apartheid affected millions, so does the traditional model of governance affect millions.....and just like Apartheid, there is lots of bad governance and decisions of governing involved !!! The needs of the people are deemed subserviant to the needs of the masters(chiefs) in this case!

Traditional governance is of the people, by the chiefs, FOR the CHIEFS

Good democratic governance is of the people, by the people, FOR THE PEOPLE!!

Spot the difference Mugabe?
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Robrt010Mugabe99

Posted 109 days ago

I like your arguments with African Traditional Leaders is questionable with Queen evrything is perfect

What does Freddie Mercury have to do with anything? - ED

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Duzula

Posted 109 days ago
@ED... Nice one

Wiseguy

Posted 109 days ago
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@Mugabe, sorry but maybe you didn't read my post correctly? I serve no one, nor hold allegiance to any chief/queen/king or other undemocratically imposed ruler/imposter who serves their own selfish agenda! That would include ALL queens.

My allegiance is to this country and ALL its people! Are you able to comprehend that through your tribaly tinted views?
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Robrt010Mugabe99

Posted 109 days ago
"My allegiance is to this country and ALL its people! Are you able to comprehend that through your tribaly tinted views? "

I see you have a problem, to differentiate betwen state and government, these two institutions work hand in glove , unfortunately you cant seperate them. Under no circumstance your allegiance is with state but no to government, whereas the majority has shown interests with the govt of the day, unless it is a undemocratic rule

Wiseguy

Posted 109 days ago
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@Mugabe...what complete and utter hogwash?? Where do you get that from?? So according to your logic, when the Apartheid regime was government, all patriotic citizens who had/have allegiance to state(RSA the country) had allegiance with the Apartheid regime?? Complete and utter nonsense, but it could and does explain a lot about the way and those of a similar ilk to you think!
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Robrt010Mugabe99

Posted 109 days ago

my goodness , if they were nt allegiance why did they vote fo such evil regime for 350yrs

The Nationalist government only came into power in 1948, and the major legislation in favour of apartheid was in 1950. Either you are very bad at math, or you don't actually know much about South African history. As to Apartheid, it was a system put in place by a bunch of arch-traditionalists who argued that 'separate development' would be preferable for black people as it wouldn't encroach as much on traditional customs or laws. It is where the regime got its name, and what lay at the root of the Bantustan system, and it is currently one of the issues with land redistribution. Some tribal leaders were compensated for lands seized from their tribe, but the people who actually lived and worked on that land were not. If you are going to argue for traditional leadership, pointing to the apartheid government to fuel emotional blackmail makes zero sense, because you fundamentally agree with it - ED



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Black-Moses

Posted 109 days ago

@ ED

Your gramma and spelling leave a lot to be desired.

Care to get into specifics? - ED

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Robrt010Mugabe99

Posted 109 days ago

To ED

shame on you, you think you gonna teach me about SA , let me give you lessons, before 1948 SA was under British colony , what the Britons did , did nt write down all these stupid laws by Verwoed, why , because they were far clever than Verwoeds clan, Britons were practising aprtheid but not in writting, immediately Vrewoed came into power , started writting all this rubbish thats when SA was isolated.

I quote "the union of SA came into being in 1910 with blacks almost completely excluded from parliament" close quote from Eddie Webster et al, 1994, Work and Industrialisation in SA: Kohler Carton& Print, Pinetown.


Why King Shaka,Dingaan,Cetshwayo,Bhambatha were fighting with colonists. shame on you stop being a domkop

Colonialism and Apartheid, though both evils that involved a lot of racism, are not interchangeable terms and you know it. You use the wounds of this country's past to prop up your propaganda, and you do not even have the respect for those who died in the struggle to get it right. Shame on you and your dishonesty -ED

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RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 109 days ago
Who are all of these 400 year old people who keep voting?
They can't be women as we didn't get the vote until 1930. Ironically, the same year that black men were not allowed to vote any more.
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Sasha*-Fierce

Posted 109 days ago
Mr ED

Thank you very much for your constructive analysis! Clearly we have got a mosquito in the house but however as one of our intellectually challenged disabled person we need to tolerate and build him until he gets there!

Black Moses

Are you always perfect with your grammar and tense? I agree with you but however I advise you to keep quite next time, that will be so noble as we always makes mistakes so be on a safe side rather than coursing trouble that you might be unable to handle!

If a persons does not know what to say, they normally blame apartheid, grammar, English and racism, move away from those middle aged antics, they will never contribute to the unity in diversity which is constitutionally enshrined, the rights which the likes of Hellen Suzman and Mathew Goniwe, Babla Salooje and Jerry Masemola and ''others'' died for, if you can check all different races died for the freedom we are enjoying at the moment.
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Robrt010Mugabe99

Posted 109 days ago
Colonialism and Apartheid, though both evils that involved a lot of racism, are not interchangeable terms and you know it. You use the wounds of this country's past to prop up your propaganda, and you do not even have the respect for those who died in the struggle to get it right. Shame on you and your dishonesty -ED
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Colonoliasm + Apartheid = dogsvomit

In actual fact I gave you an academic literature if I were you I would go straight to exclusive books after work , in order to stop embarrassing yourself, disgracefull , in actual fact what is your level of education to tell me about politcs of SA

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Sasha*-Fierce

Posted 109 days ago
And the mouth diarrhea goes on! Does the Mosquito even have the education he is hauling about, it does not seem like suiting the ''education'' part, the only talent I can quietly spot is that the demagogue purple fatso Malema must have thought him very well, Juju clearly worked out his magic excellently on our beloved Mosquito?

Wiseguy

Posted 109 days ago
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@Mugabe, think you have completely lost it or NEVER studied history! Apartheid regime did NOT rule for 350 yrs ???

You also stated, "these two institutions work hand in glove"....this ONLY occurs in an ideal model of governance, which is VERY unusual the world over! When a democratically elected government starts looking after its own senior politicians needs at the EXPENSE of the state/peoples needs .....that can NO LONGER be considered a hand in glove relationship! That is in fact, grounds for divorce!!!!
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Robrt010Mugabe99

Posted 109 days ago
dont tell us sh!t aprtheid took 350yrs since 1652 , what are are you smoking, dont twist the arguement I told you, you voted aprtheid for 350yrs today you pretend as a custodian for progressive democracy , stay back who are to tell us
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RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 109 days ago
mmm ok so if Wiseguy voted in 1652 and he would have to have been over the age of 21 back then to do so. That makes him 382 years old this year. A veritable Methuselah!

I wonder if our own version of Mad Bob is just as old. That brings up the question of why he voted for Hertzhog and lost the black males the vote to start with

Wiseguy

Posted 109 days ago
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@Mugabe, paranoid much? You I think are suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder care of the Apartheid regime, there are some good psychologists around, find one ! I am sorry but that had nothing to do with me!

Secondly, I am not here to teach you objective history, as if you could be objective about anything??....go to a library or use the net!

What did MommaC say, the tooth fairy and cindarella may be your best bet at this particular point in time! Cause reality, it has left you....gone! Possibly never to return!
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Robrt010Mugabe99

Posted 109 days ago
Its nt that Im paranoid or post traumatic partheid, Im trying to prove to you stop being hypocrite, stop it, nt long ago you were enriching yourself with apartheid today you claim to be a revolutionery, plse, and champion of the poor, where were you during your evil regime, stop bluffing us with cheap politics of democracy

UDFSupporter

Posted 109 days ago
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@Mugabe: Don't you have any work to do on your farm? When you get some quality "me-time", why not curl up with a good book? May I suggest you start with a simple dictionary...
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Sasha*-Fierce

Posted 109 days ago
UDFSupporter

Thank you sir! Mugabe spoke about something relating to ''be going to University'' with Cattle or farm money, with due respect I advise Mugabe to open a case of fraud against the concerned University, for clearly not learning anything of significance yet?
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Robrt010Mugabe99

Posted 109 days ago
@Sasha*-Fierce
Posted 6 minutes ago


my varsity gave me all and I shared with you to settle the argument I said take what I gave you , the title of the book , everything is clear , unless you dont have money to buy that book, thats what the unversity gave, go and buy the book stop being silly , bring intellectual debate nt sonsense
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Sasha*-Fierce

Posted 109 days ago
Mugabe

With due respect comrade Mugabe, are trying to write nonsense ibid? That must be nonsense indeed? Hmmmm is nonsense!? Talking about intellectual debate, do you see any on your arguments?

Wiseguy

Posted 109 days ago
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@Mugabe..@Mugabe..."cheap politics of democracy"...go tell that to all the families, especially your ANC membership cadres who lost loved ones in the fight for a free democratic South Africa. I dare you! "where were you during your evil regime"...correction, it wasn't my regime and I in fact did all I could(within the laws of the country) to get rid of it, as did many many like minded citizens! And if the current government abuses its powers, the country and its people for its own selfish agenda (enrichment) the GOOD people of this land will do to the ANC what we did to the Apartheid regime.....VOTE IT OUT! CAPICHE?
No bluffing on my part ?
The only hypocrite here is you, who claims to be a member of the ANC(in good standing) but is unable (for your own selfish reasons no doubt!) to use logic where good clean governance is required!
Remember Mugabe.....good, clean democratic governance is governance of the people, BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE! Now if your arguements(as an ANC member of good standing) were based on that fundmental principal......you wouldn't be a hypocrite! Unfortunately, your arguements are based on the provenly BAD principals of tribal governance....of the people, BY THE CHIEFS, FOR THE CHIEFS!!

PS. Ed, my access to your site is definitely being interfered with!
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Robrt010Mugabe99

Posted 109 days ago
We have been saying this over and over again, even in Dbn the Pres has said it , the ANC did nt fight to share toilet with white oppressor, we fought for econ liberation, land restitution etc

".....your arguements are based on the provenly BAD principals of tribal governance....of the people, BY THE CHIEFS, FOR THE CHIEFS!!....."===Traditional leaders are recognised by the Const of the RSA , 1996 , Chapter 2, p123, I dont know why you have problem with our Trad leaders or are you still moaning for being recognised after aprtheid

You only problem with me all your arguments have no evidence , thats what we call hogwash/boldadesh/gemmicks


RedCoat

Posted 109 days ago
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The fact that people go hungry at all in any democracy is in insult to the notion of humanity.

But given the above comments i wonder if any Koisan sre included in the hunger stats, after all they were removed/chased from their land and with that their access to abundant food sources.

Just had to ask, given certain historical practices are being blamed again.

Cassandra1

Posted 109 days ago
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When are people going to learn that overbreeding and then expecting other people to pay for their children by charity or taxes and the sympathy vote is UNACCEPTABLE!

Argue as you will, households with fewer children will be better able to afford to feed and educate them - both keys to development.

Can this cultural / religious practice of not exercising proper family planning please go the same way as suttee - soon!

Either that or pass laws that ensure that those of us who do not subscribe to any cultural or religious pressure to overbreed do not have to pay for it.