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Tue Jun 18 08:58:00 SAST 2013

Zille, Guptas row heats up

THABO MOKONE and QUINTON MTYALA | 31 January, 2013 00:01
DA national spokesman Mmusi Maimane with party leader Helen Zille during a media briefing in parliament about allegations that Zille was given political funding by the Gupta family.
Image by: ANTON SCHOLTZ

DA leader Helen Zille has accused top managers of The New Age newspaper - owned by the politically connected Gupta family - of intimidation.

Zille yesterday accused the paper's owner, Atul Gupta, editor Moegsien Williams and CEO of the TNA media group Nazeem Howa of being "heavy-handed" and trying to bully DA federal chairman Wilmot James.

The Guptas, responding through Howa, have denied Zille's accusations.

Zille alleged that Gupta, accompanied by Howa and Williams, had visited DA federal chairman Wilmot James at his Cape Town home last year under the guise of discussing the possibility of a meeting with the party's caucus. During the meeting, she said, James was warned to stop making an enemy of The New Age.

She said James had provoked the men's ire by questioning the Department of Public Enterprises in parliament about the funding by parastatals of The New Age's high-profile breakfast meetings.

"The three adopted a heavy-handed approach. They suggested that it would be best if the DA did not make an enemy of The New Age. [James] said the party would continue asking questions in parliament about the use of public funds," Zille said.

Howa confirmed visiting James at his home but denied telling him to "back off" .

"We certainly discussed the narrow focus of the questions the DA was asking and suggested that the questions be broadened to include other newspapers.

"Mr James, in fact, conceded this point and undertook to raise it within the party structures," said Howa.

The Guptas are known to be close to President Jacob Zuma and their paper has been accused of being sympathetic to him and his government.

It has been revealed that Transnet and Eskom gave R27-million towards the costs of the breakfasts, which politicians, including Zuma, have been invited to attend and speak at.

Zille has been accused of accepting money from the Guptas. She has claimed that the donor was Stephan Nel, an executive director of IT firm Sahara Computers, which is owned by the Guptas. She said he had donated R300000 to the DA in his personal capacity, though the money was received while she was having dinner at the Gupta family complex in Saxonwold in 2009.

"We won't give Stephan Nel's money back; it was [from] a personal account. I can't help it if he's going to newspapers to invent stories," said Zille.

Zille said she had written to Zuma asking him to institute a judicial commission of inquiry to investigate the funding model of The New Age. She has accused the newspaper of being used to channel funds to the ANC.

But the ANC reacted angrily to her claim late yesterday, accusing her of lying to the public.

"If Helen Zille was to be taken seriously she should have called for an investigation of all government expenditure on advertising, using all media.

"By narrowing the focus on The New Age, it is evident that she is not happy for having been exposed by the [newspaper] for who she is, a liar and an unreliable individual," said ANC spokesman Jackson Mthembu.

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Les4uu

Posted 138 days ago
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This Gupta-pf family has been caught with their pants down and with finger in the cookie jar.

RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 138 days ago
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.... and the soapy continues :)

You were played, Zille. You walked straight into this knowing full well that the Guptas were in bed with JZ and that you were getting money from a dodgy source. Spin it until the cows come home but you are scoring all own goals here.
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Gormogon1

Posted 138 days ago
Unfortunately, I must disagree with you on this. The ANC cannot match her commitment to service delivery, and her fight against corruption, thus they are now reverting to dirty tricks. I have read Zille’s response in detail via her DA newsletter. The journalists have a way of twisting issues for sensationalism. In my view, she is doing quite well, especially in the face of the spurious allegations being thrown at her.
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PaulBobs

Posted 138 days ago
I agree that HZ is doing an exceptional corruption free job, but i aslo agree that she was naive to go to the Gupta's home and accept money from a source like that. Thats how they entrap you and from then on they try to lverage the trap. It is very brave to come back from that fighting, it is good that it is all in the open and we can see the parties for what they are.
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PaulBobs

Posted 138 days ago
Robrt012Mugabe99
She did not receive a donation from the Gupta's , the DA received one from someoene employed by them. She seemed unaware that the Gupta's would try to leverage that to undermine the principles of the party. In any event the DA refused to be undermined.
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PaulBobs

Posted 138 days ago
Robrt012Mugabe99
i dont read the New Age, ever, but do you have a link to the article?
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PaulBobs

Posted 138 days ago

Robrt012Mugabe99

Thought so

RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 138 days ago
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.... and the dance begins. That sweet little two step shuffle used by political sycophants when their masters are compromised. The variations are small and it is often difficult to see the differences between the dance moves. Different clans, can, however be distinguished by the trained observer

(all done in a David Attenborough voice)
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Mike123

Posted 137 days ago
We think alike :)

Funny how similar they all are: trying really hard to cover their own slime trails.
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RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 137 days ago
They are peas in a pod, Mike.
Can you just imagine the comments if the parties were swapped. Almost identical .... except to a trained observer :)

Mike123

Posted 138 days ago
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When it comes to politicians, all of them, without exception, have dubious credibility. Even though I think that Zille is just another political skank, I'd believe her before believing anything that comes out of an ANC supporter's mouth.

PaulBobs

Posted 138 days ago
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I believe that our newspapers are unbiased, they tackle Zille with the same enthusiasm they tackle Zuma. Its just that the ANC corruption stories are more interesting than stories without corruption. Thats why the ANC gets more press.

But the New Age is a different animal, it appears that with the paper and the donation the parties tried to muzzle HZ from asking questions in parliament, and ,when she would not give in, they unleash the newspaer to attack her irrationally. I wonder how the New Age's editor sleeps at night, becoming the mouthpeace for the family......

Stirrer

Posted 138 days ago
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The best way forward for the DA is for Zille to play open cards. Admit where the DA failed, but expose the Gupta's and their new-Mayibuye newspaper for what it is - a platform for pro-ANC propoganda and a conduit for channelling taxpayers money into ANC coffers!

RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 138 days ago
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Oh dear!

Never mind the soapy. What is happening with the train crash in Pretoria?

Duzula

Posted 138 days ago
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i don't know why is she making all the noise about this Mrs Zille you got the money, this show that all the political party are the same one way or the other...
This means that the Guptas family runs South Africa
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Stirrer

Posted 137 days ago
The Gupta's influence in South Africa is very unhealthy. They are becoming something like the Rothschilds of old.
(except the Rothschilds controlled all the banks, whereas the Gupta's control all the leaders!)

Desmond-ct

Posted 138 days ago
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Mrs Zille yought with your finger in the money pie. Now that the s..t is hitting the fan, you now come up with conspiracy theories. What do they say, where there's smoke, there's fire. Ms Zille, you lied, period. Finish and klaar!
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PaulBobs

Posted 137 days ago
They are not theories dude, what she said hapenned.

Tjorts

Posted 137 days ago
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Helen, if you are right then there is no need to get angry and defend your actions, and if you are wrong then you don't have any right to get angry.

Fact - 12,5 million South Africans are going to sleep hungry tonight ...I don't see the DA challenging the Gupta/Shaik/ZumaANC-corruption-mafiosi to follow Motsepe's example and return the 'stolen-from-the-poor-tenderpreneural' loot to honourable organisations in order to create jobs for the poor. Instead wasting time trying to cover-up their ill-gotten gains...

Guptas should be in jail (where Shabir Shaik and Jacob Zuma should be) as we all know their evil and corrupt ways and motives with their biased New Age rubbish newspaper eye-blinder!

...de la Rey, de la Rey?!


KingAfrica

Posted 137 days ago
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Is it possible for South Africans to ask the Guptas to leave our beautiful country? They can go whereever they come from. If Zuma and all politicians want they can follow as well. Just checking!

chrish

Posted 137 days ago
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So what if HZ raised some cash from the Guptas - its called a party donation and its allowed (although in her party letter she says it was a business associate of the Guptas and not the family itself). If however the DA then started channelling government contracts to them then that would constitute all the who-hah that seems to have erupted over this. The question the DA rightfully asks is - when tickets to the Gupta New Age "breakfasts" cost 700 bucks and they are also receiving sponsorship from parastatals (i.e the government) to the tune of R28m+ , doesn't that smell a little fishy (or is that the bacon simmering away on what must amount to a few million bacon butties!!)

buddi

Posted 137 days ago
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I don't understand what the fuss is about - not from Zille, the New Age or the anc stooges.
The DA received and accepted a donation towards their party in May 2009 - so what?
They wrote a nice 'thank you' letter - so what?
Did they give the New Age or the Guptas anything in return - like a tender, or a contract, or a cell phone, or a car? No - so what?
I don't think the Guptas were as infamous then as they are now, so the DA changed its mind and decided that the New Age and the Guptas were now persona non grata - so what?
We all know the Guptas are actually in bed with the president and the anc, so probably regret donating any money to the DA in any case.

Stirrer

Posted 137 days ago
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This "breakfast" front must be exposed, and fully investigated by the Public Protector. It is little more than organised crime - stealing of taxpayers money by the ANC using a specially created benefactor's company (New Age) as the conduit.
The DA should hang their head in shame for their role in legitimising this farce!

Wiseguy

Posted 137 days ago
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Funding from parastatals "to the tune of R28m+".....enough to feed 8 million children? Maybe not, but if the Gupta clan followed in Mr Motsepe's footsteps and donated half of their wealth to philanthropic causes....maybe then it would be!
;)

bess

Posted 137 days ago
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Everyone is ignoring the fact that the DA accepted these relatively small donations in 2009 , when nothing was known about the Guptas.

Once it became evident that the Guptas and Zuma were filling each other's pockets Helen Zille REFUSED further donations.

I would say she did the honorable thing, and she certainly hid no facts about these donations from the public.

Sadly Zuma will not match her transparency regarding his economic relationship with the Guptas.

KZN

Posted 137 days ago
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zille & the da cannot be trusted.
how about also probing the da's involvement with the wasteman group? the same wasteman group that was prosecuted for dumping medical waste across the country. Did the da not receive "incentives" from wasteman to protect that company's interest?
the double agenda party is still living in the dark age of apartheid. all will be spilt before the 2014 elections.

SuiGeneris

Posted 137 days ago
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''....It has been revealed that Transnet and Eskom gave R27-million towards the costs of the breakfasts, which politicians, including Zuma, have been invited to attend and speak at...''

Priorities !!!!

KCUF the 12.5 million poor people who go to bed hungry every night !

With this amount of money they could have started thousands of soup kitchens all over the country to feed these hungry people but NO ! They are too selfish and their glutenous over-sized bellies is much more important !!!!
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SuiGeneris

Posted 137 days ago
glutenous = gluttonous
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OneShotStott

Posted 137 days ago
That's the only thing that blew my mind in this article, whilst everyone else here seems to be bickering over the politics, iI'm far more concerned with who approved R27m of our taxes so that the fat cats can havea flipping breakfast....?!

What the hell were they eating?! You could feed an entire province a breakfast with that type of money - how is it that Eskom is demanding a 16% increase over 5yrs, tallying up to an 80% increase in total as they 'lack the proper funding' and now they throw this type of amount of taxpayers money in our faces....for a breakfast!

It truly boggles my mind - in fact out of all the wrong in our country reported today, this has to be the most insulting and offensive.

Shot ANC - you the man.

shelatt

Posted 137 days ago
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Every time I read these comments it makes me realise that anyone voting for the Absolute National Corruption party in the next elections have to be the most unintelligent, brain washed and idiotic citizens of this country. They must also be totally heartless and selfish when it comes to the desperately poor and indigent people who number in the hundreds of thousands.....!
The Corruption party does not care a hoot for these people, and here is the proof. The salary bill for the two hundred odd (mostly corrupt) ministers et al runs into the hundreds of millions each year. They do not EARN this, they TAKE it for the least amount of work. How is it possible that Zuma (and his wives) earns more than Obama, the most powerful leader in the world....Come on you moronic Corruption supporters, make me understand why he deserves it. And what's the president of our country doing being a member or director of an untold number of companies and CC's. Does he not receive enough to stave off hunger and misery? It’s absolutely disgusting that he can take in all this money from the tax payers while the poor and indigent (who by the way helped him get voted in) suffer interminably. In fact to put it more succinctly , any politician who has ever indulged in the splurging of taxpayers’ money on self-indulgent pursuits is a disgusting lump of putrid faeces who should be stripped of everything they own and forced to live in a squatter shack for the rest of their lives. Wow, I’ve just realised the whole cabinet of Corruption will have to be moved to what would become the most well known squatter camp in the world....!!!
So you see dumb asses, by voting for these a-holes you are allowing the rape to continue. Having said this I realise there are certain people who HAVE to vote for the Corrupt....those that are already entwined in the quagmire that has been formed over the last few years and who rely on the largesse bestowed on them for playing the money and power game of the untouchables! Are YOU one of those leeches sucking up to the top six????
Now, one of the (unintelligent) arguments over “ who else to vote for...” can be solved right here...If you want to be guaranteed things like service delivery, a decent life for all, top class education among many others, all you need do is threaten the Corrupt with a loss of power. That’s all, just let their majority in parliamentary drop below 60% and watch the change happen instantly!!! Make them realise that power can be removed at the cross of a pen. At the next election arrange with groups of people you associate with to vote for various smaller parties like the ACDP etc so that not one party becomes too dominant. The worst thing you can do is to NOT vote. It is construed as voter apathy and not anti ANCorruption.
Another thought to ponder....What could be so wrong with giving another party just 4 years to prove itself? The Corruption party has taken nearly 20 years to fix poverty with negative results (more poor now than before 1994)and not forgetting losing 30 billion bucks per year to fraud and corruption!!
In just 4 years you can just as easily vote them out if you are not satisfied...simple! Realistically the only party who could make the changes you want is the DA, considering they have a fairly good track record in the Cape....I do also believe that most politicians lie and steal but as long as we have press freedom and involved citizens we can keep it in check.
Go on, give them 4 years, (it’s not a lifetime) and let’s see what they can do!!!!
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SuiGeneris

Posted 137 days ago
2014 elections will be a real shocker for the Absolute National Corruption !!!
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RedCoat

Posted 137 days ago
And there it is....when faced with and argument you cannot give logical respose to, haul out the race card. Very sad.

InExile

Posted 137 days ago
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Most writers on this subject seem young enough not to have been around in the 70's. Really nothing new with forming a pro government news paper and letting the tax payer fund it unbeknownst to them. It took R 32m to create The Citizen. When it all came out in the wash the government found a whipping boy called Rhoodie. Instead of collapsing the newspaper they sold it to Perskor (read govt news papers unlimited) for R4m. Dont feel too bad if you who purchase today's state funded paper continue to do so into the future: Many a useful idiot did it in the 70's and 80's and then still believed what they paid it to tell them.