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Fri May 24 00:01:27 SAST 2013

Facebook racist opens wounds

ANDILE NDLOVU | 06 February, 2013 00:19
A 1985 photograph of the Westdene Dam in Johannesburg after a school bus plunged into its waters Picture: JUHAN KUUS

Katherine Shaddock was shocked when she logged on to Facebook to find that plans were being made to celebrate the death of her half-sister in the Westdene Dam disaster 28 years ago.

Zama Khumalo had told his 493 Facebook friends he would be sending out invitations to a "Big Black Braai" to celebrate that 42 white children died when their school bus plunged into the Johannesburg dam in 1985.

Khumalo, 24, who claims to be promoting a "black superiority complex", said the braai would be on the anniversary of the disaster, March 27, and that there would be DJs and fireworks .

"It was terrible," Shaddock said of the post yesterday. Her half-sister, Mary-Ann Miles, who was in Grade 11 at the time, was one of the victims of the bus disaster.

The post had also upset Shaddock's brother Michael.

"They grew up together - they were like twins. It is just shocking to think that in this day and age, when we're living in a democracy, somebody could be grateful for the death of anybody."

Khumalo had posted the names of 24 of the 42 victims with the comment that their deaths were "much appreciated, my Lord!".

Yesterday, the Daily Sun distanced itself from Khumalo, who describes himself on Facebook as a journalist for the paper. Publisher Jeremy Gordin said Khumalo had not worked there since the beginning of last year.

"I don't want to get into a debate [about Khumalo] because he is not employed by us. I repeat, he is not employed by us in any way, shape or form," said Gordin.

"We are trying to find out what we can do about having his Facebook page changed. I believe there is some kind of legal recourse."

SA Human Rights Commission spokesman Isaac Mangena said yesterday that the watchdog had not received a formal complaint about Khumalo. But he agreed that "on the face of it the posting is full of hatred for another race".

Hate speech is prohibited by the constitution.

By Saturday, Khumalo had changed his tune somewhat. He posted: "I have taken time to consider and reflect on the Westdene Facebook post that I made earlier this week . The matter has been such a huge personal pressure . I received inbox threats.

"I heartily apologise and deeply regret the post, and the pains [sic] that I have caused to the parties touched [sic]. I'm sorry."

Another look at his page suggests he enjoys making provocative statements.

A day after his apology, Khumalo posted that the DA-run suburb of Brixton, where he lives, was strewn with dying trees, uncollected refuse bags and weedy pathways, which he said, was "part of a white hollow belief that black people are starving 'cretins' who must live in a [sic] filth".

One of his Facebook friends, Hendryck Matjaola Nkoana, replied: "Zama man if u got nothing better to post man just keep it into urself the blame game wont help us SA citizens both black en white we are all Africans [sic]."

Mangena said the Human Rights Commission was considering contacting Khumalo "with the view to initiating a proper investigation".

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SecretVoice

Posted 106 days ago
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Sounds like a deranged individual looking for attention. Shame!!!
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Abelde_Baltus

Posted 106 days ago
Where can I find this man?
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Scribbles

Posted 106 days ago
Abelde_Baltus,

Why would you want to find him?

I honestly hope nobody decides to dispense their own "justice" against Zama Khumalo as I imagine it would only exasperate the situation, not bring any form of closure.
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Loggenberg

Posted 106 days ago
His Facebook profile says divorced. No surprises there. Run Woman, Run
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ZamaMofokeng

Posted 105 days ago
Now that a white person is on the receiving end you start making a BIG noise about it? You call also sorts of actions to be taken against Zama yet we always hear of stories about how whites treat black people. What about the man who took a picture pressing a black kid down lying down with his foot and caring a hunting rifle on his hand? What about the picture of a white toddler ridding on black boy’s back? What about those of you who condoned the Marikana killings on this blog. Hands of Zama, everyone is entitled to his opinion.
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Scribbles

Posted 105 days ago
ZamaMofokeng,

I haven't heard of the toddler one but as for the others...

It's one thing to have an opinion on whether the police or strikers were in the right (Marikana - Before so much evidence piled against the police), or whether a photo taken in so-called jest is in poor taste or not (the child and rifle reference), but another entirely to CELEBRATE the death of children. That's not an opinion, that's a celebration... over the death of children. You're quick to condemn others for not speaking out on the issues you care about and yet go so far as to endorse Zama for his racist party. You're not only a hypocrite, you're just as bad as any WHITE racist for jumping to Zama's defence. I emphasised "white" since you seem to respond so well to skin colour, hopefully this will nail home how similar you are to the people you hate. Maybe the lot of you racists can go have a braai together and celebrate death, hate, suffering and all the other sickening things in life you love so much.

By the by, you not only conveniently ignored the white bloggers who have spoken out against the incidents which you mentioned, you've also ignored the most prominent times they have spoken out against racism. Remember the Free-State incident, or the moronic models? Both were heavily condemned by whites, not only here but overseas. Or how about those nut-jobs who went on a random killing spree through the township? They were also reviled and shunned. Please take the racist blinkers off before making such ignorant comments.

P.S.
How is the Marikana incident even a race issue? Are you willing to cry racism over ANYTHING?
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ZamaMofokeng

Posted 105 days ago
Scribbles

About the Marikana: you can no deny that most bloggers on this site we condoning the shooting. It is race related because black people died while exercising their rights. Posting comments such as “why they were caring traditional weapons” or “why did they engage the sangoma” is actually saying they deserved to die.

I don’t see why we should make such a fuss about his facebook status.
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Scribbles

Posted 105 days ago
ZamaMofokeng,

It was a striker vs police issue, an abuse of authority issue, a wage issue, not a race issue. If the strikers had overwhelmed the police, would we say it's a race issue because African police died? That's just silly as it would mean that you feel it's a race issue either way so long as there are African deaths. And yeah, people said some stupid things on Marikana but you've conveniently ignored the more thoughtful comments, or the ones which decried the police over recent evidence, and instead have used the disgusting ones to excuse your argument that it's okay to celebrate the death of children. You've also ignored that many were siding with the police because they initially felt that the officers may have been justified, believing that the men and women may have been threatened by numbers and weapons. And believing that they had followed protocol.

Also, we're making a fuss just as we've done with many others, or are you implying that we should treat Zama Khumalo differently based on nothing more than the colour of his skin? My opinion is that we should name and shame ANY events or people which promote racism.
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ZamaMofokeng

Posted 105 days ago
@Scribbles

I do not condone Zama’s sentiments BUT what I am saying is why white bloggers don’t share the same sentiments as they have always done when black people were on the receiving end. Why don’t they say “he is just a crazy kid” or “this is just a joke?”

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Scribbles

Posted 105 days ago
ZamaMofokeng,

Because he's not a kid and because this isn't a joke, Zama didn't even hint it was a joke and actually went out of his way to find and list the children which died. And there were people who decried the photo (I haven't read the one on the toddler, so no comment), you're simply blocking them out because you don't want the same done to Zama for some bizarre reason. You're also ignoring the backlash over the models and Reitz students again, or does worldwide disdain not count? Zama hasn't even reached that far. He didn't even feature for long on South Africa's own media, compared to those two, and he's gone beyond words to throwing a party. Seriously, I can't believe you've missed so much commentary, on top of those who denounced the photo. I'm hesitant to say but it sounds as if you have an extreme case of selective memory.
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Scribbles

Posted 105 days ago
Honestly, why is it even important what certain individuals have or have not done? This sort of conduct should be looked down upon either way, not defended.

Gormogon1

Posted 106 days ago
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Wow! This is really sad, and extremely insensitive. I'll pray for you boet.

Scribbles

Posted 106 days ago
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It takes a truly pathetic creature to celebrate the death of children...
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RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 106 days ago
Spain,
I don't know where in the world there are mothers and fathers who celebrate the death of ANY child. Please do enlighten us as to where these celebrations take place.
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spain2

Posted 106 days ago

Sorry, i don't think I made myself clear - bye bye you racist psychopathic trash - ED

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Scribbles

Posted 106 days ago
spain2,

Who cares what colour Khumalo is, the act is disgusting either way...

Seriously, perhaps you should address your own racist tendencies before preaching your nonsense to anyone else?
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RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 106 days ago

No Spain, you had said that there are many places where the death of children is celebrated. I want to know WHERE and WHEN as this is something that, in all my many years on this planet, I have never heard of.

ED, I know you are trying to keep this civil but could we try and have a dialogue about this?

If somebody needs convincing that celebrating the deaths of children is something civilised people do not do, then no amount of discussion will convince them - ED

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RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 106 days ago
.... and far worse has been done to many. So give us a 'for instance' where the death of a child has been celebrated by anyone. Come on Spain, don't be shy,
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Scribbles

Posted 106 days ago
spain2,

You're attempting to justify or lessen the impact of Khumalo's garbage by proclaiming, "worse has been done by white people to black children." It's not only disgusting, it's distubring that you feel compelled to keep track of which skin-colour has done worse. By the way, I just scanned the comments and nobody has called anyone a baboon, that's only you dreaming up nonsense to bolster your racist preaching.
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RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 106 days ago

You will be surprised, ED.
Spain obviously has an issue with this and it may be prevalent. It may be interesting to see how his tangled mind manages to make the tragic, accidental death of children into a political argument

Very well, I will unban him for now - but I will be watching this thread closely - ED

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RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 106 days ago
Thanks ED :)
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spain2

Posted 106 days ago
Wow I'm touched ED,
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SuiGeneris

Posted 106 days ago
Unfortunately one have to accept the fact that some people are sick to the core.
In fact, so sick that it effect every atom of their body.
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BokfanSaffer

Posted 106 days ago
Morning Ed.

Of course I agree with your summary of Spain's "character" but I'd like us to reflect on the steps taken to deal with his vitriol.

I do not think it is a bad thing for would-be racists of all colours to see the logical end point of their attitudes. I am hopeful that by expressing revulsion at such grotesque views a middle ground is created where more evolved and sane standpoints hold sway. Of course that middle ground is still very shaky since there are enough crazies in SA to keep a race war burning for years. But it is nevertheless essential to keep the construction going. For it to be a sturdy foundation it must be tested from time to time.

I'd far rather see what non-racists of all colours have to say about them and have that stand as the record than have his comments removed by your well-meaning self.



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Timbuck10

Posted 106 days ago
ONE SICK TROLL!

proudmbongwa

Posted 106 days ago
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Bye bye - ED

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ZamaMofokeng

Posted 105 days ago
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Sorry, i don't think I made myself clear - bye bye you racist psychopathic trash - ED
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Last time I checked the policy said "You should not make personal attacks and You should not use vulgar, discriminatory, obscene or abusive language."

Mr/Miss Editor you are out of order here. Read your own terms and conditions for commenting. You should have just banned the blogger and not swear at him.

You are acting like a tyrant. You do not own this blog.

RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 106 days ago
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Zama-zama Khumalo seems to be hell bent and determined to steal some attention. Either that or it is Crazy Rori's twin brother and he is off the meds again

NkululekoKhumalo

Posted 106 days ago
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I remember this incident and the hero that went back to the sunken bus over & over to save other kids. This imbecile is an embarassment!
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sechaba30

Posted 106 days ago
Are you related to this racist man?

Territc

Posted 106 days ago
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Only 24 and such a racist. Thought he would be part of the new generation who have so many opportunities available to them. Shame.

Stirrer

Posted 106 days ago
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"Khumalo, 24, who claims to be promoting a "black superiority complex",..."

This imbecile should immediately apply for enrolment in Kgalema's new political education school! At the height of oppression, even the greats like Steve Bantu Biko and Nelson Mandela were calling for equal rights for all races, not superior rights for some based on complexion.
To paraphrase the words of Haile Sellassie (in his address to the UN in the '60's) : "...until the philosophy that holds one race superior and another- inferior, is finally and permanently discredited and abandoned, there will be no peace!"
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Timbuck10

Posted 106 days ago
After all... racism is only a PIGMENT OF YOUR IMAGINATION!

AaronGumede

Posted 106 days ago
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Ha banna, Zama was not yet born moes? It happened 28 years ago and he is just 24, four years younger. Is he this angry about the past, to an extend of celebrating the pain of the lost life. Sad hey, very sad.

muendanyi

Posted 106 days ago
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He is 24, and im 30, even if my parents have sufferes racial injustice in the past, this is unafrican, i have find comments of white people in this website more mature and non-racial, unlike iol, and there is no room for khumalo in this age and time. On behalf of Khumalo, I apologise to the affected parties
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JustinSly

Posted 106 days ago
I understand why you are apologising on his behalf, but there is no need to. Unfortunately in this world you get truly sick people, Zama is one of those. Hopefully the level headed people like us in this country will prevail over the extremists. At first I was livid when I read this story, but I now feel sorry for Zama, he cannot be leading a happy life at all.
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RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 106 days ago
That is so sweet :)
Nothing for you to apologise for. There are lunatics on all sides and you should simply be grateful not be be one of them. I sometimes wish we could make use of one of our stadiums and turn it into a gladiator contest with the extreme racists from both sides slogging it out without putting us in the middle

Duzula

Posted 106 days ago
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This are the issues that are affecting us South Africans, and we can't ignore this. I don't think this was a matter of attention, but I stand to be corrected...
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BokfanSaffer

Posted 106 days ago
Duzula this is a place where you can say what you mean and not indulge in elleptical and formless vagueries. Make your point so we can know what you are saying.
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Duzula

Posted 106 days ago
We still have a long way to go with racism. (Black or White) a

Abelde_Baltus

Posted 106 days ago
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Scribbles

It is not about justice nor about closure.

Just some personal attention for feel good Friday.

WillGranzier

Posted 106 days ago
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Well I doubt 'Khumalo " is white.... But then again Sipho Van der Merve cud be ??? Useless pork chop this Khumalo idiot... Who cares

TjoVtjo

Posted 106 days ago
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And this illustrates the fact that many adults are still angry about apartheid and we are seeing the results through their children. Remember the African expression that it takes a village to raise a child. Clearly he is reflecting the views of his community, wherever they are. Remember Skirlik and the rest of the atrociuos views that we have seen from both black and white children. We are still an angry nation and chastising these kids without peeling back a few layers will never adequately resolve this issue. The Rainbow nation is still colour blocked and the Truth and Reconciliation commission was a farce. Thats the reality.

Wiseguy

Posted 106 days ago
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This racist incident, like so many others, is indeed very unfortunate, another bad/horrible blotch on our non-racial agenda as a society and should be dealt with appropriately by all responsible members of our society, especially our political leadership!!

I have stated this before on timeslive, we, as in every single citizen of this country who lived under apartheid is a victim of that system in one way or another! The psychological damaged caused by this needs to be addressed on a continual, and ongoing basis if we, as a modern society, are to progress beyond our racist past!
There is no doubt that "previously disadvantaged people" were greater victims than those who were advantaged by that system.....but ALL were victims and many still are !

We also(as a society and as individuals) need to consider, the dignity of so called "black" people and what the history of this country did to that sense of dignity and self-worth! We need leadership that addresses these imbalances, seeks to give back and generate a sense of dignity and self-worth to those whose has been lost/taken away by the horrendous policies of the past! Political leadership that does all in ts power to create a tolerant, progressive society of civilised, dignified, non-racial, non-sexist, people which is fair and equitable to all and no longer judges individuals on their skin color but on their actions(performance).

What we are seeing today is the emergence of "black nationalism" which in many ways seeks to restore that dignity, largely due to our current political leadership, and what we should be seeing(as was the case under Mandela) is really a sense of "unifying non-racial" nationalism which would restore that dignity in a much more holistic way and form.

NOTE:This is NOT justification, nor can there be ANY justification for any racism. FULLSTOP! The postings of this individual, like any other racially based are deeply regretable to ALL.

The ills and wounds of the past can NEVER justify any racism or racial agenda.....EVER>>>REGARDLESS!

Tokolosh

Posted 106 days ago
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Shame he does not know better and he probably never will!

VictorRapulane

Posted 106 days ago
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Thank God the comments did not turn political.. if this was News24, Zuma, Malema, ANC and the govt would have been blamed for this wacko's behaviour. Maybe there is hope afterall.
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ProtKpax

Posted 106 days ago
Well I blame zuma and the whole of the anc for this, its them who makes sure that racial hatred is alive and kicking, that's how they get their votes. Do you remember the song, kill the boer?

RenierVisagie

Posted 106 days ago
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Apparently after “apologising” he posted the following on his Facebook page:

“There has been a lot of mew-mew and squirrel voices about me here; I don't wish to be subjected to a South African media bullying that targets blacks and give the wrong impression of them in order to defend a white interests in our Mother-Land. I think de-colonisation should begin with the media.”

He also commented that we must not forget the past and remember history. This is not history being remembered – this is just plain racist hatred and vindictiveness which has become very popular in the social media and online forums. These kind of statements belong in the very history he claims to keep alive.

https://profiles.google.com/zamkhum/about

UDFSupporter

Posted 106 days ago
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Morons come in all colours, shapes, sizes and ages. Even 101-year old dinosaurs were 24 years of age at some stage. I was waiting to receive medical treatment at a high-end clinic and was forced to listen to the banter of the obviously well-heeled fellow patients. When they happen to be in the majority and are well-known to most of the group, old men and women are quick to let their guards down and think nothing of making overtly racist comments. This is quite sad actually and only disproves the myth of ours being a rainbow nation. Many on these blog sites are quick to ask others (including my new black oppressors) to put the past behind them. Of course they are correct and we all need to move on. If only my past oppressors could do the same...
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RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 106 days ago
Its hard to teach an old dog new tricks. A life time of propaganda and ignorance is not something that is easily changed - just look at our dear Mbongwam. This, however, is a young man who has no excuse.

Stirrer

Posted 106 days ago
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I and I commemorate Robert "Nesta" Marley's birthday today - positive vibrations, Rastafari!
Bob Marley's gone - his reggae lives on!
Rastafari - ever living, ever faithful, ever sure.