Ramphele's party not settling for second best
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Mamphela Ramphele's sermon on the hill revealed that she is in fact entering politics and now has 14 months to build an organisation to contest next year's general elections.
Agang, meaning "Build SA" in SeSotho, is the name of the "party political platform" she launched yesterday that will now enter into consultations as it gears up to be a political party.
Her announcement, made in the former woman's prison on Constitution Hill, Braamfontein, had been hyped up for weeks.
Ramphele, an academic and struggle stalwart, pulled no punches yesterday as she said South Africa was being "undermined by a massive failure of government" and a disconnect between trade unions and their members.
She said that party lists in elections gave party bosses "disproportionate" power and the country's citizens were effectively being excluded from governing.
Ramphele has her sights set on reforming the electoral system.
"Our society's greatness is being fundamentally undermined by a massive failure of governance," she said.
". we should be able to vote for the person in our own area we want to represent us in parliament so we can hold them accountable for the electoral promises they make."
The organisation will soon start gathering a million signatures to campaign for a change in the way elections are conducted. Ramphele said she would also campaign to "depoliticise the public service".
She said failure to create a competent, professional and non-partisan public service undermined the quality of governance at all levels.
On the economy and high levels of poverty, she said there was no justification for so much need in the midst of so much opulence.
"It is appalling that an estimated 71% of South Africans in the 15-34 age group are not participating in the economy, and are instead forced to accept the humiliating substitute of social grants."
Agang, Ramphele said, was not aiming for a specific percentage of the vote in the elections, and would not settle for being "an also-ran".
She said when Agang became a political party, it would not merely be "in the opposition business".
United Democratic Movement president Bantu Holomisa said he has had a number of discussions with Ramphele since last year.
"We've discussed this issue [of her forming a political party platform]. I think now she will now be moving from province to province to sell her vision and discuss the possible launch of a political party," said Holomisa.
DA national spokesman Mmusi Maimane said the party had been in ongoing discussions with Ramphele regarding the realignment of politics.
"No deals have been brokered. [DA leader] Helen Zille has a long-standing relationship with Dr Ramphele. The discussion [around political realignment] has been ongoing for years," said Maimane.
"We'll wait and see. We'll have to see what her platform looks like to make a decision in the long term [regarding collaboration]."
The ANC said it believed that the Ramphele-led initiative was ''grievance-driven''.
The ruling said in a statement that Ramphele rehashed ''the known challenges facing our country'', and did not bring any new suggestions to the table.
At a joint briefing by opposition parties last week, FF Plus leader and Agriculture Deputy Minister Pieter Mulder said Ramphele needed to think carefully about which party she aligned herself with.
COPE leader Mosiuoa Lekota said there had been discussions about "some kind of union". He said, however, that no formal deals had been brokered.


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Posted 120 days agoNevertheless, it's too early to predict where this will go. An internal ANC initiative to replace the useless leadership may still be a better option.
Wiseguy
Posted 120 days agoWe live in hope then ?
Dr Ramphele stated.."we should be able to vote for the person in our own area we want to represent us in parliament so we can hold them accountable for the electoral promises they make.".......now how can anyone or political party disagree with this.....surely this is in the best interests of EVERYONE and the NATION!!?
SuiGeneris
Posted 120 days agoSmack !! In the face of the ''Nkandla king''
Loggenberg
Posted 120 days ago-------------------
For a moment I thought they are talking about Ramaphosa. For a moment I just thought that Cosatu might have a problem with Lonmin Mining Company. That cannot be true. Lonmin is definitely not exploitative. Ramaphosa is a perfect candidate to lead the pro-poor party.
SiyabongaBiyela
Loggenberg
KazGong
This lady just wants to be the catalyst of a party deep rooted in serving its people, with integrity, with dreams, with real inclusivity of its diverse society.
That is what I want too.
AWA
Posted 120 days agoYou can already see the ANC squirming by the comments they are handing out. Expect a lot more of this and worse as their panic grows.
Sasha*-Fierce
Posted 120 days agoWe need a political party that will enrich all the people fairly not individuals and their families as it is done by all the present political parties in their respective departments, provinces and municipalities, every party is currently benefiting its cronies be it DA or ANC, they are all the same under their respective auspices.
We need a party which will not discriminate anybody on color, political affiliation and nepotism.
KazGong
Iktav
Posted 120 days agoStarting yet another political party just muddies the political water and serves no real purpose other than to dilute the opposition.
Mama you are well respected but you are not sly enough to be a politician (I mean that as a compliment) Please lend your credibility to a party which can pose a REAL threat to the ANC.
Even if the ANC is not voted out in the next election - it is imperative that they are severely weakened - to drive the message home that the voters will no longer tolerate their behavior and lies. We can only do that with a strong and unified opposition - not a with a mishmash of wannabe hopefuls like Cope, the IFP and the dozens of other splinter parties.
KazGong
I do not want anyone to shut down what MR is saying as that is what will save this country
Robrt014Mugabe99
Posted 120 days agoLoggenberg
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For a moment I thought you are referring to the ANC
Bono
It is just a matter of time!!!
RSA.MommaCyndi
Bono
Ok Bob i take back the "nice"part......there is really no hope for you....your heart is full of hate.......goodbye!!!
What do you expect? He named himself after a genocidal, homophobic dictator with a penchant for torturing his political enemies - ED
Loggenberg
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Land issue is something I would leave alone if I as the ANC. I am not white but am from the SAN tribe. The government will change the land issue to include land that was taken before 1913. Our land was taken by other tribes originating in East Africa. We will claim it as soon as the law is changed. It may also include land now in the hands of the Bafokeng
Robrt014Mugabe99
Posted 5 minutes ago
Ok Bob i take back the "nice"part......there is really no hope for you....your heart is full of hate.......goodbye!!!
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so what
Bono
Black-Moses
The history books you read, are very fallacious, to an extent that they have made you look and sound like a fool. This one is for you...he that loves glass without G, takes away L, and that is you!
Robrt014Mugabe99
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yes he is a father of Africa, proud of what he did in Zim for taking back land from the hands of 20k minority white people , distributed amongst 80k black famers. During the fin yr 2011/2012 these farmers made GDP of $850m each farmer taking home $75k , which is something never happened before in Zim, driving brand new Land Cruisers etc says Business Rep 17 Feb. Endless queues from Middle East and Asia waiting for bus licences.
Again thank you Rob for fighting a good battle atlast blacks enjoy fruits of their forefathers, even Morgan Tshangarai has seen why Mugabe was fighting for. I refer you to read Sunday Times Business 17 feb , dont hate me I got from business report on Sunday times
Robrt014Mugabe99
Posted 17 minutes ago
The books that Im reading are prescribed textbooks for masters level authorised by professors I wont know whoa er you to tell me and those professors those books are not authentic , first of all what is you NQF level perhaps.
Above all Im talking about something I witnessed in the late 80s here in Vryheid where blacks were removed to areas very unfavourable for farming , since then they lost all their live stocks 200 cattles,gots,sheeps,horses etc were gone , left empty handed Von Abbo in Zim rushed to Supreme Crt cried loud whereas he forgot he did the same situation to those people occupied that land before same situation with black farmers in Vryheid KZN.
Black-Moses
The books that you are reading are prescibed textbooks for masters disaster,authorised by proffesors of doom, from a bogus university, ne!
Black-Moses
That old saying comes to reality...never argue with a fool, it will beat you hands down by experience. I rest my case.
Robrt014Mugabe99
Posted 57 minutes ago
Bob
That old saying comes to reality...never argue with a fool, it will beat you hands down by experience. I rest my case
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mcxxm foolishness now you are short of intellectual debate resorting to vernom
CynthiaMulomba
Posted 120 days agoAlso alignments with people who have different agendas don't last.
Marx007
KazGong
Jakes_Mathews#
Posted 120 days agospain2
KazGong
Stirrer
Posted 120 days ago(if Mamphela does well, no doubt these caps will go on sale at a robot near you soon!)
POST94
Posted 120 days agoYou can also ask Madam Zille about the challenges of reigning in the former Nats. They literally run the show.
Good luck oulady.
KazGong
She would do well to avoid this bunch, and I think this will be the biggest problem for the party
zapatriot
Posted 120 days agoShe has come out with something totally new and which none of the current parties have suggested. No more blank cheque mandates through handing our votes to self-serving parties who have done nothing for us. Its time to change the electoral system and start voting all leadership directly, from the local elections all the way to the president of the country. For a change we can have leaders we are actually proud of and we can vote for directly, not be stuck with morons forced down our throats by some party inner circle. Enough with mediocrity and looting of state coffers. I don't know about you critics who like to make pronouncements while our beloved SA is going down the tubes, but I am definitely going to contribute to making Agang SA the next government. Spread the word! Donate! Stop the gravy train!
Robrt014Mugabe99
KazGong
Marx007
Posted 120 days agomanga2
Posted 120 days agoMangqeshane
Posted 120 days ago(b) RSA is 1 of the most stable if not the MOST STABLE country in the world, and yes there are ppl who do not like this. History has shown us 2 things (i) there is money to be made in destabilizing countries (ii) the USA is 1 country that continues to benefit when such destabilization takes place. So the idea of that gogo Ramphele is backed by some USA backers is not far fetched, she has a very vast network which includes the Roosevelts. C'mon she is 65 yrs old where is she getting energy/funding from? I bet you she will not reveal them. If they trully believe in NO SECRECY, why is it difficult for them to tell South Africans who is funding them?
(c) The 2 main things that she mentioned (corruption and education failures). What I know for a fact is this. NO ILLITERATE PERSONS messed up our education, it was leanered people like her, so really, what is she offering differently.... I am yet to meet an ILLITERATE PERSON stealing from govt coffers, it is always the well educated ones
Marx007
Robrt014Mugabe99
One of the key questions I have is,
1) how come US is very quick to detect terrorism against US yet very silent against CIA and Mercenaries like these arrested in Modimolle
2) How come SAfricans are so blind like that to follow HZille adopting all US models, receiving funds from US and cant see the lies by US
3) How come OAU is nt tackling the source of the matter other than dealing with secondary mechanism, instead of investigating funders of all these rebels in Africa.
Scribbles
Robrt014Mugabe99
Posted < 1 minute ago
I wonder how/where south african whites get info or what do they read , on Sunday Times if you did bother reading Business Report , it has reprted that SA is ranked 16 in the world 1st in the sadec reg in terms of FDI , go and read Sun Times Bus rep , stop being a scumbag
Scribbles
Listen "scumbag", here's some actual info for that blinkered vision of yours. First I'll address your own facts, the ones which you like to pretty up rather than lay out bare. Instead of proudly barking over how well Zim is doing with its GDP why don't you paint everyone a more elaborate picture, like how their GDP was quadruple the amount before Mugabe's insanity, or how the beneficiaries are the big land holders (the minority) and not the small ones (the majority).
Also, a high FDI rating might support stability but says nothing of a countries actual stability. Only your type will nitpick a single good point and proclaim a win. Meanwhile, those of us with a little perspective will only acknowledge stability when we're not seeing strikers being massacred, constant violent strikes, unchecked corruption, rampant violent crimes and failure to deliver with education. We can't even supply a few public schools with books, that's not stability, that's just insanity.
Robrt014Mugabe99
Posted 1 minutes ago
no sir its from the authentic source dont shoot the messanger
Scribbles
Are you illiterate? I NEVER said anywhere that your source wasn't authentic, so you can stop sniveling about "shooting the messenger", I actually elaborated on your points and gave them a bit of perspective. It shows how short-sighted you are as you apparently only read what suits you while stopping right before the gritty details.
Robrt014Mugabe99
Posted 15 minutes ago
.Also, a high FDI rating might support stability but says nothing of a countries actual stability. Only your type will nitpick a single bad point and proclaim a win
idiot
Robrt014Mugabe99
Posted 23 minutes ago
“……Also, a high FDI rating might support stability but says nothing of a countries actual stability. Only your type will nitpick a single good point and proclaim a win…..”
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I know you domkops whenever you are cornered you think in Afrikaans and write in English, blahblahblahblah
Scribbles
Nowhere in that comment does it say that your source wasn't authentic, "idiot." It's almost laughable that you have the gall to call anyone an idiot considering the fact that I have to explain a simple sentence to you. This will be my final response since I have no patience for elaborating on basic sentences... It's incredibly tiring and a waste of my time.
"A high FDI rating might support stability" - This line says that a high FDI rating is GOOD, and that it supports stability. It says nothing about the authenticity of your source.
"But says nothing of a countries actual stability." - This sentence goes on to elaborate that even though the FDI rating might be high (Again, note that there's no mention of your source being authentic or not) that it says nothing of the countries stability as a whole and only acts a small part of it.
Okay, school lesson over, for further lessons might I suggest attending an actual school?
Scribbles
You say that I'm cornered and yet you haven't refuted a single point of mine. All you've done is somehow misread a basic sentence (might I suggest English lessons) and resort to childish name calling.
Wiseguy
Posted 120 days agoNevertheless, I honestly believe Dr Ramphele to be a true patriot to this country and ALL its people and I wish her well in her endevours ! I don't believe she would let or be party to a world superpower taking advanatge of her or the country she loves!!
PS> I found the above comment by post94 interesting....." You can also ask Madam Zille about the challenges of reigning in the former Nats. They literally run the show."......might explain why the more things change....the more they stay the same!!
Imfeni
Posted 120 days agoThey have entered into a contract with their voters, by promising to deliver certain promises should the voter vote for them and they get elected (This is what contract law states) Should they not deliver on the promise they have broken the contract and should be liable for doing so.
And we as voters should be able to take them to court for braking this contract
Wiseguy
Posted 120 days agoRobrt014Mugabe99
Scribbles
I don't know how you do it from day to day, especially when Rob's type ignores everything said. I know how some can have a blinkered outlook but I figured that they would at least be able to see the info in a comment shoved right under their noses.