Zuma to marry - again!
PRESIDENT Jacob Zuma will tie the knot again next weekend in a traditional ceremony in Nkandla.
Gloria Bongekile Ngema will become Zuma's fourth wife after having been engaged to him for a number of years.
Zuma's spokesman, Mac Maharaj, confirmed yesterday: "The president is to formalise his relationship with his fiancée, Ms Bongi Ngema, next week at a private traditional ceremony in Nkandla."
Zuma has a three-year-old son with Ngema. He reputedly has about 20 children in total.
Last year, Ngema joined Zuma on a diplomatic trip to France, her first state visit. The privilege is usually reserved for the first lady.
Hailing from Durban's Umlazi township, Ngema was described as devoutly religious by friends in a Sunday Times profile story two years ago. She has various academic qualifications, including a business degree.
But she may be the last bride Zuma takes. At a lavish birthday bash in Durban on Friday evening, more than 1000 guests watched a video montage in which he said his marrying days were over.
He turned 70 on Thursday and has married twice during his presidential term.
Zuma's other wives are Sizakele Khumalo, whom he met in 1959, Nompumelelo "MaNtuli" Zuma and Thobeka Stacey Mabhija.
He divorced Home Affairs Minister Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma in 1998, and another wife, Kate Zuma, committed suicide two years later.
Zuma was born into a polygamous family. His father had two wives, Zuma's mother being the junior.
Yesterday, Nkandla locals were in the dark about the nuptials. Even close family members expressed surprise.
The homestead, which has undergone a massive R64-million renovation, hosted a second birthday party yesterday. The renovations included the construction of six double-storey thatch rondavels for Zuma's wives and family.
A guest with knowledge of the compound said the buildings were ready to be handed over to the wives. The sixth one is still being built.
He said there was 32mm armoured glass in the windows.
Sunday Times has reliably learnt that each of the main bedrooms were connected to Zuma's main house by underground tunnels.
The president acknowledged his wives : "I have them; they are many. They know that who comes in does not close the door behind [her] because it was not shut behind her."
Ngema and Zuma's other three wives were all on hand to cut his R12500 birthday cake at the International Convention Centre on Friday. The celebration was organised by his daughters.
Political heavyweights, diplomats and top businessmen, including billionaire Patrice Motsepe and his wife, Precious Moloi, attended.
Also there were government spokesman Jimmy Manyi and his wife, Stella; South Africa's high commissioner in London, Zola Skweyiya, and his wife, Thuthu; KwaZulu-Natal MEC for economic development Mike Mabuyakhulu; Minister of Finance Pravin Gordhan; sports administrator Danny Jordaan; and Durban businessman and ANC funder Vivian Reddy.
Among the traditional items on the menu were pickled ox tongue with chakalaka, braised lamb shank stew, samp and beans, amadumbe (potatoes) and mieliepap. Guests were treated to boxes of chocolates and personalised bottles of water.
Zulu King Goodwill Zwelithini supplied his signature wine, Bayede, a huge bottle of which went to Zuma as a gift.
Intimate details of his personal life were revealed when guests were shown video clips of 70 questions put to him by his daughters.
He disclosed that he would happily go on a date with DA leader Helen Zille and that his first car was a used Ford Cortina.
Asked if he was done with marriage and children, he answered "I think so" to the first and "Yes" to the second. And how does he like his women? "I like one with some body."


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Posted 403 days agoHi--Jack
Having had a look at the picture, it seems all the woman are fighting for something inside the Pres' hand.
I would have thought it to be the purse strings, but....
GregSmith
LuthandoLukhozi
Posted 403 days agoI must say, if I was giving an opportunity to steal from your kitchen, I would aim for Thobeka (hmmmm, what a wonderful lady she is). I just wish your cultural confidence would extend to the way you run the government as well!!!
ThembaThwala
ZwelakheSithole
LuthandoLukhozi
Mine is merely values and practices that have over time been practiced by people of a particular grouping, which they seek not to change but restore over time, even if those practices and values are threatened by changing times & younger generations.
Why is Lobola still our African custom today, when your domestic maid (not your lobola paid wife) is likey to serve you your meal?
Even when your domestic maid has cooked the meal (well assuming your wife was at work when the cooking resumed), these modern wives won't even at least serve you the meal then (even though they didn't cook it). Yet we pay lobola fo such.
But settling the bill in a restaurant will never cease to be a man'sjob. The fact remains we pay lobola bcos it is our culture, that s how it has allways been. Therefore, let us not be at a supermarket when it comes to which aspects of culture we retain and which we ignore. Let's embrace our culture fully, including polygamy - which in my mind will solve many marital problems & reduce AIDS!!!
I think it's about time man come out in the open about the fact that they can't sleep with one woman for the rest of their lives!!!
Mike123
Posted 403 days agoTooClip
a_stub_born
Posted 403 days ago.........It shows the quality of "brains" used to govern a nation.....100 Gordhans could not do better !!!!
ZwelakheSithole
a_stub_born
In any case, the only thing we have seen "smart" in Jacob Zuma so far, is the way he dresses.............with exceptions......
TooClip
Posted 403 days agobrencis
Posted 403 days agoa_stub_born
Posted 403 days ago"06 March 2011 | CITIZEN REPORTER, AFP
JOHANNESBURG - At a gala dinner in Nelspruit, Mpumalanga, at the weekend, ANC Youth League (ANCYL) leader Julius Malema seized the opportunity to exhort black South Africans to have more babies.
Malema urged a full hall in the Ehlanzeni municipal administration building to have as many babies as possible – “to prevent the revolution from losing steam”.
Why do we moan then??
"Our teens swap books for babies"
"""TEACHERS blame poor sex-education lessons in schools for the sharp increase in the number of teenage pregnancies.....
""....In a bid to curb these pregnancies, several schools in Pietermaritzburg have enlisted the services of well-known virginity "tester" Nomagugu Ngobese to spread the message of sexual abstinence among their pupils.....""""
That must be a variation of "stealing from the kitchen"...........
Maxi
TooClip
Posted 403 days agoAt the end of a busy night, he must be drained of ever ounce of bodily fluid.
ThembaThwala
a_stub_born
ScarfaceReturns
Posted 403 days agoBangene Msholozi but Thobeka makes wanna...........?
a_stub_born
TooClip
Get the picture?
BornintheRSA
a_stub_born
Posted 403 days ago"I like one with some body."
pan
Posted 403 days agoIt certainly can't be Zuma, who prior to his presidency was almost broke, and his annual salary would take over R30 years to pay for this "upgrade".
LuthandoLukhozi
Posted 403 days agoMy brother, you are a midget in reasoning terms. Who told you that the only people at risk of HIV are those who 'diversify their domestic portfolio? '
Latest reaserch indicate that married people are even more at risk of HIV than singles, they can't always bargain for use of condoms.
I still see nothing wrong with Zuma taking more wives, as long as he can support them - which it seems he is, as he has extended his homestead in Nkandla.
I agree with TooClip that the older chick seems grumpy. Maybe she was expecting to be the one next to the Mr while cutting the cake, not the sexy yummy voluptuous Thobeka.
Those who are criticising our culture must also criticise those Spanish chaps when they are doing that annual madness of chasing and abusing a bull down the streets!!!
m1si2zi3nzo4
Magnum_Octopus
a_stub_born
ZwelakheSithole
ThembaThwala
You seem to be suffering from ignorance. Zuma hardly touches his salary. The taxpayer pays for the state house he lives in, and each of his wives have assistant director level "PAs" who are paid for by the state. So Zuma can afford his wives as long as that money used to support them is from the taxpayer.
Lastly, if you want your wife to cook and serve you, then you must fire your domestic worker and let your wife resign from formal employment in order to serve you
LundiGcabeni
Posted 403 days agoI'm embarrassed to be South African.
ZwelakheSithole
BornintheRSA
Posted 403 days agom1si2zi3nzo4
Spitfire
Posted 403 days agotiredofuselessness
Posted 403 days agoI think not.
Zuma needs to go ASAP.
a_stub_born
Posted 403 days ago......where in Europe or anywhere else in the world have you read about a youth leader addressing to a gathering encouraging copulation just so the 'revolution does not loose steam' ??????........
.....and having 'the ways and means' does not signify "in case of need, copulate !!"".......at least not in "my culture".............
Maxi
a_stub_born
....but then again, according to your way of thinking, even the Bible sanctions the practice: "go forth and multiply".(Genesis).......ne ????
Hi--Jack
Also applicable to your previous post..
This is true. I have an Austrian friend who benefited from the same, BUT there is a mark able difference. Europe's native populations are in decline. The developed /Industrial ones in Europe anyway. They need a workforce and a base which in future, can sustain the current ever more ageing population, i.e. pay their medical and pensions. Maintain the pyramid scheme if you like...
Call it future planning if you will.
In SA, quite the opposite is true.
Maxi
When you refer to below indicators where do you think there is a real need for population grow?
- 50 million of South African population on1,221,037 km2 of land
- 82 million of Germany population on 357,021 km2 of land
- 65 million French population on 674,843 km2 of land
a_stub_born
Hi--Jack
No.
Hi--Jack
There is no need for growth. Best not in the EU countries you listed. What you pointed out is that Africa has space, right?
Not true my friend. It's not a matter of debate, but of reality. Not your reality or my dream, but unfortunately fact.
Population growth has, and will kill us all.
Make a long story short(for now), I mean no disrepect, but the case for eg Rwanda, the Chiefs has no more land to share. His crying has not resolved anything, but to make case for war.
You know very well that Europe has less land required because of Industrialization etc. I stated it before
a_stub_born
Posted 403 days ago....was she shelved after the grand "slam-dunk" ???.........
LuthandoLukhozi
Posted 403 days agoWhat is wrong with an African man following his African culture? His father was a polygamist, he comes from a polygamist society, so what is wrong if he exercises his right to be a polygamist?
What if the wives genuinely do not mind his polygamist ways, so who are we to interfere in their President's bedroom affairs?
The Presidency has been taking care (through The Spousal Office in the Presidency) of ALL former Presidents wives (including die-hard racists like Verwoerd) at taxpayers wallet all these years, why should Msholozi be treated differently?
Msholozi is a former herdsboy with a strong rural background, who was born into a polygamous family - so all that Zuma is doing is to take on from his forefathers. Just because you cheaters do not have either the guts nor the budget to officialise your mistresses now you want to judge Msholozi out of jealously? Show me a man who doesn't wish to have multiple consenting sexual partners & I will show you Jesus Christ's signature!!!
As much as on the political front I differ with Msholozi, but I will on this one (as a Zulu man) vehemently defend him!!!
a_stub_born
...if you can PERSONALLY afford to have 5 women or 5 partners, and in between have affairs with whoever you fancy, it's OK by me, but call the things by its proper name.......don't use foolish justifications.....and don't misuse the PUBLIC MONEY destined to other uses.....and we are in desperate need for proper uses.....
If you are the 'leader' engaging in tribal tendencies, don't expect your subjects behave differently and with all the risks involved and the damage to society in general.......
Can you name presidents in the past who had had five wives+partners+lovers, all of them "officially" recognized and paid by State expenses ?????......
"""""Show me a man who doesn't wish to have multiple consenting sexual partners & I will show you Jesus Christ's signature!!!""""""
.........most of us grow up our highly hormonal teen-age years loaded with sexual fantasies and stop reading Playboy or Penthouse in the toilet........unless you become Saddam Hussein's child or a russian mafia boss..........or a swazi little king.........
a_stub_born
the_original_MommaCyndi
We know for a fact that our president has no problem with sleeping with HIV positive young women and we know for a fact that our president doesn't seem to know what a condom is. That directly puts his various wives and mistresses at high risk. Which part of all that can be blamed on any SA 'culture"?
GreenRoom
Posted 403 days agoSome people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way you can understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic. Someone over there has it figured out. We have a lot of work to do. The danger to South Africa is not Jacob Zuma but a citizenry capable
of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency.
It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of a Zuma presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Zuma, who is a mere symptom of what ails South Africa.
Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Jacob Zuma, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their President.
GreenRoom
Posted 403 days agoa_stub_born
LuthandoLukhozi
I think I'm more of a praise singer for facts (or atleast what I consider to be facts). Somewhere earlier in this forum I indicated to another fellow blogger the following:
Mr Sithole, what is your definition of culture?
Mine is merely values and practices that have over time been practiced by people of a particular grouping, which they seek not to change but restore over time, even if those practices and values are threatened by changing times & younger generations.
Why is Lobola still our African custom today, when your domestic maid (not your lobola paid wife) is likey to serve you your meal?
Even when your domestic maid has cooked the meal (well assuming your wife was at work when the cooking resumed), these modern wives won't even at least serve you the meal then (even though they didn't cook it). Yet we pay lobola fo such.
But settling the bill in a restaurant will never cease to be a man'sjob. The fact remains we pay lobola bcos it is our culture, that s how it has allways been. Therefore, let us not be at a supermarket when it comes to which aspects of culture we retain and which we ignore. Let's embrace our culture fully, including polygamy - which in my mind will solve many marital problems & reduce AIDS!!!
I think it's about time man come out in the open about the fact that they can't sleep with one woman for the rest of their lives!!!
So DarkRoom, that is what makes me stand by Zuma on this one (even though I differ with him politically.
I am reminded of a quote: "In matters of style, swim like a fish. But in matters of principle, stand firm like a rock"!!!
a_stub_born
.......you can disguise "promiscuity" under any justification, be 'cultural', 'zoological', 'religious', 'spiritual', etc.......
...if you can PERSONALLY afford to have 5 women or 5 partners, and in between have affairs with whoever you fancy, it's OK by me, but call the things by its proper name.......don't use foolish justifications.....and don't misuse the PUBLIC MONEY destined to other uses.....and we are in desperate need for proper uses.....
If you are the 'leader' engaging in tribal tendencies, don't expect your subjects behave differently and with all the risks involved and the damage to society in general.......
Can you name presidents in the past who had had five wives+partners+lovers, all of them "officially" recognized and paid by State expenses ?????......
"""""Show me a man who doesn't wish to have multiple consenting sexual partners & I will show you Jesus Christ's signature!!!""""""
.........most of us grow up our highly hormonal teen-age years loaded with sexual fantasies and stop reading Playboy or Penthouse in the toilet........unless you become Saddam Hussein's child or a russian mafia boss..........or a swazi little king.........
........and what about Zulu, or any other African women ????........are they really happy to be considered walking "semen receptacles" in different shapes and sizes according to you???........