Archbishop Tutu punts reparations tax
Archbishop Emeritus Desmond Tutu has repeated his call for white South Africans to pay a reparations wealth tax for benefiting from apartheid.
The retired cleric addressed students yesterday at the University of Cape Town, where the students' representative council launched its community outreach programme, Change Campaign.
Tutu drew a lot of criticism after proposing the wealth tax at a book launch at the University of Stellenbosch two weeks ago.
"I was not hoping that the response would be of people who still feel guilty but a response of people [who saw the tax] as a gesture of generosity and magnanimity.
"The problem would have been dealt with much better earlier. We had it in our report; unfortunately the government at the time didn't like the TRC so they didn't do that," said Tutu.
"In fact, for me now I could say that we are undermining what I had in mind by all the negativity, but there are people who saying let us look at it differently."
Yesterday, he also laid into the government over what he described as the poor standard of education, poorly managed health facilities and "cadre deployment". He said people often asked why he used the word "retired".
"It's difficult to shut up," he said.
Those who supported him on the wealth tax proposed that a fund be set up that would be administered by "people who are respected in the community so that people can benefit from that gesture".
The FW de Klerk Foundation dismissed Tutu's proposal as unconstitutional and said it would require the reintroduction of the racial classification and "other demeaning racial distinctions that were associated with apartheid".
"It would also be unfair. Would whites who opposed apartheid be expected to pay the same as those who supported it? Would there be different tax scales for whites who supported the ANC, the DP and the old National Party? And what about the many blacks who held well-paid positions in homeland governments?" the foundation said.
Tutu said he was appalled by the plight of school children who were still taught under trees.
"It's embarrassing. I went to a school in Mpumalanga four years ago and went into the library and there were no chairs and no desks. I said: 'No. Look at the standard of education.' We are beaten by the poorest countries in Africa. It's a disgrace," he said.
SRC president Amanda Ngwenya said the council believed Tutu would inspire others to help communities by participating in its outreach programme.
"We feel it's important for the students to take part in the society broadly and make a contribution. This is the second day in a week of events and I think someone with Desmond Tutu's calibre will inspire students into action," said Ngwenya.






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ClintonClark
Posted 638 days agocrazymedic1
Posted 638 days agojuju4president2013
RedCoat
acsteyn1652
Posted 638 days agoI think you have lost it. When you say "Whites who have benefited from Apartheid", how do you distinguish between these "whites"? Or is this just a blanket accusation that because you are white you automatically benefitted from Apartheid?
Why does this sound so racist? What do you have to say about black benefitting from democracy? Should whites be penalised for democracy?
So in your mind in our current democratic society whites are bad and black is good?
Perhaps it's time more time is spent on fleecing out the criminals now who steal as a result of this demovracy before it is destroyed. We will need more than reparation tax. We will need a few good solid prayers.
And please stop blaming the current situation on apartheid. It's almost twenty years later.
Why is it that there are so many enriching themselves like they did during apartheid. All that is changed is the skin colour. Now they feel entitled and owed, then they felt entitled and priviledged.
For God's sake, when will this stop? And, more importantly who is going to stop it?
You? I don't think so.
Razzo
Posted 638 days agoGus
Posted 638 days agoTronn
Posted 638 days agoTronn
Posted 638 days agoThis success story goes to prove that all the claims that young black children never had access to education prior to 1994 are not quite correct. The truth is that the opportunities were there for those that wanted to learn and made the effort.
As someone said the other day, the "whites" in Australia build up their wealth without apartheid, so Apartheid cannot be the reason that blacks did not benefitin RSA.
Tutu must retire or quitely "pass on"
fuzzypip
Posted 638 days agoRazzo
Posted 638 days agoIgnorance about what and how apartheid really affected black people coz you think 20 years is enoughto wipe out hundreds of years of white domination......and yes I do know that the terminology was only enforced in 1948 after Verwoed but it had already been in practice way before then......
Ill say it again for the arrogant ones: ......tick.........tick........tick........tick.......where will you be when the time bomb clock stops ticking!!!!!!!
Tronn
Why are we always using the Afrikaans word Apartheid?
The correct name was Separate Development.
The only reason it failed was because only one race was able to develop.
The other races were extremely jealous because they were unable to develop on their own, so they created a new word called Apartheid, because the rest of the world knew no better.
These other races created the impression that apartheid was an evil oppressive force that was preventing them from developing.
The whole world fell for this story and said "oh shame" and started boycotting our country.
Our "weak" government gave in to the pressure and handed the country over in 1994.
Unfortunately for the other races, they are still not able to develop, so they cry "compensation"and expect the world to hand out more and more freebies.
There is a limit to the amount of freebies that can be handed out though and already the world is backing off and saying not until either you help yourselves or you sell out to us so that we can come and grab all your mineral wealth.
The other races do not know how to develop the mineral wealth, so they will sell it off, just like the rest of Africa.
In most cases the countries in Africa have a ruling party that is cruel and corrupt and squanders all available money upon themselves.
They have created unemployment and poverty and misery for their people.
These people do not have their own homes or land and many of them seek refuge in other slightly stable countries.
This situation is not confined only Africa, but exists in many other counties too.
This dominance of one power over another has been ongoing since the beginning of time.
The stronger powers have overpowered the weaker powers and in many cases, dominated them through cruelty and suppression.
What do these people blame their misery on? Apartheid?
omni
Posted 638 days agojuju4president2013
SkyLukeWater
Posted 638 days ago1. Why don't we start by getting our hands on the arms-deal paybacks. That alone is worth an estimated billion rand, right?
2. Look at government over-spending on lease agreements and on the fancy cars and houses for ministers/mp's. I would estimate that to be another billion or two.
3. Laws should be ammended to strip assets from those who are found guilty of tenderpreneurship or corruption (they are stealing this country blind and do not contribute to an improved South Africa for all).
4. You cannot punish someone for being good at something. They are successful, already paying more tax than you and I, and they probably employ many people so leave them alone. They're white but that doesn't make them guilty of anything.
5. You cannot expect super wealthy to understand the problems of impoverished communities. And you cannot force them to do so. That would be unethical. You can lead them to water, but it is they who decide if the waters are worth drinking (i.e. where's the incentive? white guilt? puleez)
This country needs a change in policy - government is employing too many people and they are all being overpaid. Those that feel they deserve more are pulling strings while bending and breaking the law. Private sector wages no longer compete with Government - don't you find that a little strange? This government has run out of ideas, and its citizens are footing EACH AND EVERY SINGLE BILL. Something needs to change ...
Wiseguy
Posted 638 days agoWiseguy
Tronn
Posted 638 days agoYou are quite right. I left our the little details that you all like to highlight in order to gain sympathy from other countries, but the overall picture is 100% acurate.
If we were all the same colour, then it would make more sense to you
Sorry, I know it is a bitter pill to swallow..............
Wiseguy
Posted 638 days agoTronn
Posted 638 days agoHa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
drcrowley
Posted 638 days agoAs a 30-year-old white professional, I think the reactions from 'older commentators' to Tutu's suggestion indicates a basic SELFISHNESS on the one hand, and secondly COGNITIVE DISSONANCE because they believe acknowledging material benefit from Apartheid is the same as being responsible/guilty for Apartheid. This is a fallacy. I was born in 1980. If it weren't for my parents, I would not have been able to go to good schools, eat healthy food, have a dry bed every night, afford university and be in the job I am today.
This being said, my willingness to pay a tax to reflect this benefit is contingent upon whether the funds can be ring-fenced, and whether the Fund itself is going to resemble a pariah such as the National Lottery Board, or the Melinda and Bill Gates Foundation.
That is the real issue to be addressed, not the paranoid selfishness reflected in these comments.
Being an old English suburban liberal who once attended a political meeting does not negate the fact that you have benefited!
wong
Posted 638 days agoinkunzi
Posted 638 days agoWiseguy
Posted 638 days agoThe point I was trying to make is that Apartheid was a crime against humanity but to base any form of reparations on RACE is not the way to go! Why, well:
1) Not all current whites living here benefited from Apartheid, indeed those who opposed Apartheid were oppressed,intimidated and disenfranchised.
2) Many whites who currently live here, arrived after 1994 as emigrants.
3)Many whites who did benefit from Apartheid now live overseas and have taken their "loot" with them
4)There were a small number of influential and polically involved non-whites who also benefited from Apartheid.
So, while I like the idea of a reparation fund, it should be made up of monies claimed from those individuals and companies who can be PROVEN to have benefited from Apartheid and its laws.
This is one that should be resolved in the courts and by lawyers. Those who have fled this country, could be brought to justice and made to make financial amends with the aid of the international community.....who were very outspoken about the immoral and unethical nature of apartheid....so they shouldn't have any problem with a reparations fund and helping to persue those who benefited from it. I am suggesting something similar to what the German gov did for those who were disenfranchised and persecuted by the N@zi regime. But it must be based on fact and not race....we really need to move away from race based legislation in this country!!!!
disillusionedstill
Posted 638 days agoYou err similarly to the wh1te racists.
Your argument is against racism and your frustration is caused by the post 1994 individuals who have probably irrevocably ruined that which you, Mandela, Coetsee, Suzman, de Klerk, et al achieved.
No amount of money will fix the problem or reform the racists.
Perhaps the person who has done most damaged is Zille - her's has been a platform based on hatred which, via an accommodating media, she has deliberately infused into fear filled minds.
Sad and evil self-serving destruction of hope.
martinde_winter
Posted 580 days ago