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Wed May 22 13:05:25 SAST 2013

I deserve 8/10, says Angie

KATHARINE CHILD | 13 July, 2012 00:42
Basic Education Minister Angie Motshekga. File photo

While the country's education system lurches in a crisis, Minister of Basic Education Angie Motshekga believes she deserves an almost perfect score for her performance.

Speaking at the launch of study materials to help more than 100000 matric pupils this year, Motshekga was pushed by the media to rate her performance. She said she had done "many things well".

"I would give myself eight out of 10," she said.

Motshekga said she should be judged on the policy she had introduced and not on the problems the department found itself in.

"I don't deliver workbooks. I am not in the classroom. I don't know what all 12 million learners are doing," she said.

Pushed to explain where she had succeeded as minister, Motshekga said she had implemented the new Curriculum Assessment Policy Statement system for Grades 1-3 and Grade 10.

She said she was also proud of having delivered more than 88 million workbooks to pupils across the country.

The department is, however, facing huge challenges.

Several non-governmental organisations have brought a number of court cases against it, with many commentators calling the situation a "crisis".

In May, Motshekga was taken to the Pretoria High Court by rights organisation Section27 to force the department to deliver books to schools in Limpopo by June 15.

In his judgment, Judge Jody Kollapen said the department had violated the constitution.

The department later asked for an extension to June 27. However, many of the textbooks were found dumped in parts of the province.

Three task teams are investigating the Limpopo textbook saga.

One is headed by education specialist Mary Metcalfe, another was appointed by President Jacob Zuma and the third by the Limpopo provincial government. It is headed by the province's director-general, Rachel Molepo-Modipa.

Motshekga said she could not comment on the saga until the investigations were complete.

Yesterday, the department also asked for a postponement in a case brought against it in the Grahamstown High Court by the Legal Resources Centre for failure to fill 3200 teachers' posts in Eastern Cape.

Ann Skelton, who was in court yesterday, says in some schools pupils were not being taught at all.

Skelton said the minister's lawyers appeared unprepared and "without a substantive argument".

DA education spokesman Annette Lovemore said the Eastern Cape education department, which is under administration, is R19.6-million in arrears in teachers' salaries.

In a separate case, Equal Education - whose supporters took part in a march in Tembisa, Ekurhuleni, to demand better education yesterday - has taken the minister to court for failing to determine norms and standards for schools, arguing that all schools should have a basic level of infrastructure.

Papers were filed in March and the minister only responded last week.

"Despite the minister not denying the facts of our case, she has decided to continue with business as usual," Equal Education's Doron Isaacs said.

Yesterday, Motshekga said she did not know the details of the court cases and refused to comment further.

Last year, the department achieved a 70.2% matric pass rate, a 2.4 percentage point increase compared with the previous year's performance of 67.8%. - Additional reporting by Sapa

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Gormogon1

Posted 313 days ago
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I had to rub my eyes a number of times to make sure I was reading this right. What arrogance.
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m1si2zi3nzo4

Posted 313 days ago
Arrogance at its best, indeed. But it stems from the SA'n vulgar politics - that her party of 1m people owns 50m+ South African citizens. It therefore, has the sole entitlement to dish out any of its dreams of 'transforming' it into a vehicle for the elite enrichment, including the Verwoerdian indoctrination through education policies it cares less about. She showed her gross disregard of the future of this country long before she was granted the largesse. In such way she has shown the rest how to get something one doesn't deserve. And now we must grace ourselves for a repeat of this practice until the 'son of man' returns.
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BornintheRSA

Posted 313 days ago
There are none so blind as those who will not see. Even our biblical ancestors understood this potential human failing.
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keith.palmer

Posted 313 days ago
What arrogance - I agree. First she says she is not responsible for delivering books (in order to avoid blame) then in the next breadth she says she is responsible for delivering 88 million workbooks to the pupils. Obviously this is to try and get kudos. What do we have to do next to get rid of this idiot
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Loggenberg

Posted 313 days ago
"I deserve 8/10, says Angie" as Limpopo and EC kids are not important.
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Gormogon1

Posted 313 days ago
Francis, I am still blinded by that headings of 8/10. I have further developed one crazy headache trying to get my thoughts around her reason(s) for saying this :)
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Francis

Posted 313 days ago
Gormogon1,
Trying to understand the South African ruling party is an exhausting exercise. I know.
Up to date nobody took offence for my little nap every hour to recuperate from the nightmares with pictures from these morons.
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Mazomba

Posted 313 days ago
hatred aside. i think you people fail to contextualise issues. motshekga is just an escape goat in this whole saga. what would you do as a Minister if you know that you cannot cancel out a dysfunctional contract simply because the contracted person/ company has connections at the higher echolons of power.
I don't think it is fair for Motshekga to be crucified alone in this particular issue. Let us all wait for the final reports of the investigative task teams. It is unhelpful for people critique only from teh shallowness of tehir skin colour.
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DoubleTrouble1

Posted 312 days ago
"I don't deliver workbooks. I am not in the classroom. I don't know what all 12 million learners are doing," she said.
"She said she was also proud of having delivered more than 88 million workbooks to pupils across the country."

Is it me or Angie has lost it?


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LancelotBlack

Posted 312 days ago
Not only do you not deserve 8/10, nor even a pass mark, but you should be sent to the principal's office for a damn good hiding!
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v_3

Posted 312 days ago
The only reason she can give herself 8/10 is that she has not got a cooking clue what's happening in her department.

Dr Hendrik Frans Verwoerd would give her 10/10. She has implemented his insane and vile policies perfectly

Thuka-Thuka

Posted 313 days ago
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And modest too....

Frankly, you're missing a few zeros in the denominator there, love!

Mike123

Posted 313 days ago
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This is pretty much indicative of the way the ANC think. If they only manage to sit behind a desk for an entire day, without falling off the chair, they think they are brilliant.

No wonder the country is in such a mess!
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nghunghunyane

Posted 313 days ago
LOL Mike...good one
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ER2

Posted 313 days ago
A WHOLE day???

Impossible.

SuiGeneris

Posted 313 days ago
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8/10 for incompetence.....Agreed !
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Timbuck10

Posted 313 days ago
8/10 shoes are STUCK UP HER FAT BUTT!
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ER2

Posted 313 days ago
For incompetence she gets 10/8.
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SuiGeneris

Posted 313 days ago
Check this - Absolutely shocking !

mg.co.za/article/2012-07-12-damning-report-fails-motshekga

GregQuinn

Posted 313 days ago
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Your score should be based on the current state of education in South Africa.
And yes, 8 divided by 10 is 0.8

Which is about right.

rahima

Posted 313 days ago
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So she only does policy and has nothing to do with implementation.

Another disgraceful ANCpf deployed cadre. Is this a laugh, a cry, a vomit? Or all three?

tiredofstupids

Posted 313 days ago
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I heard this on the news yesterday and hoped it would be opened up for comments here today.

Angies attitude sums up exactly what goes on in most ANC deployed cadres heads. They believe they are doing a sterling job whilst all that they are accountable for is falling into ruin around them. They just don't get it do they??

Theye

Posted 313 days ago
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If ANC education policy get an 8/10 then Bantu education gets 100% pass mark.

Ntebaleng

Posted 313 days ago
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Mom Comrade Angie this bungle in Limpopo and Eastern Cape education rests solely on you and the treasury. You took over the administration of this departments without fore thought , you used expedience in this matter. The reason there are no text books and shortage ogf teachers in these two provinces is precisly because of you and treasury.

Perhaps you have to explain what plan you had when you took over the administration of this department. I do understand that JZ is stupid and every thing he touches goes to waste but you are educated and there are alot of people in treasury with level heads but you got hood winked into this mess that will have to be paid by the children.

You better stop backing JZ blindly and start seeing for the menace he is, this man has cost the Alliance deeply since from him becoming chair in KZN up to date. Please look back and think about how much harm this man has brought to our beloved movement, apply your head and make sure this man does not get re-elected in Mangaung, the honors is on you mama.

Dont know if you will read this but i hope the TML can forward this to you then it will be posible for us to read ourselves of the menace called JZ. Two votes from you and you husband and the influence you give to the ANCWL, my vote and other sober headed members of the Alliance will assist in getting us out of this quagmire call JZ leadership.

He is worse that Stalin, Stalin claimed to be a Leningrad but he destroyed and anhiliated the Russian population.Remember JZ requested the MK to instill descipline in the ALLIANCE and to me that looked like a coded message and i was not supprised with what happened in Shiyandima. Now Jim is being followed by possible assasins and this i squarly put again on JZ. Remember Stalin followed Trosky up Mexico and he also poisined Lenin. please mama and comrade make sure JZ does not get re-elected.

Please TML pass this message to mom comrade Angie
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DonaldKnight

Posted 313 days ago
I think you should consider joining some other political organization...
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BokFan

Posted 313 days ago
Bra Tebz is it true that you want cholesterol bomb malema to take over the destruction of SA?

ppss

Posted 313 days ago
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list of things Angie deserves 8/10 for:
- showing up for work on time almost every day
- making sure she eats her bran so her bowel movements are regular
- never using her work computer to surf porn
- being a good cadre
- did i mention bowel movements?
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SuiGeneris

Posted 313 days ago
I don't think she has any problem with bowel movements after this fiasco !

Daffy

Posted 313 days ago
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in what school a tree school or a mud school? gee Angie never stops amazing ! @PPS you missed and farting at a press conference lol!!

muk1

Posted 313 days ago
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What arrogance. Like Adi Amin, she is awarding herself medals. If you a in charge of policy; then your DG that runs the department needs to be held accountable. One thing that Kadar Ismail did was nail his colours to the mast; he published in newpapers what his objectives were so that the public could guage the progress of his department. You minister are not ashamed for passing matrics with 30% pass rate. What future are you provinding for these students?
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SuiGeneris

Posted 313 days ago
''''''You minister are not ashamed for passing matrics with 30% pass rate.''''''''

Only 30% needed to pass....

With only a 2.4% increase in the pass rate from 2010 to 2011

What a fantastic achievement !!!!.....8/10.....Brilliant !!!

nghunghunyane

Posted 313 days ago
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if i wasnt sure previously now i am, our education minister is taking drugs....or she is out of touch with reality, actually i guess its the first one,

TheUnknownTruth

Posted 313 days ago
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Should we start looking out for scholar "refugees" heading for Gauteng?

Klip_in_die_Bos

Posted 313 days ago
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Wow. Angie, you seem to be like an alcoholic. You will only make a change (and a difference in children's lifes) if you are thruthful with the person in the mirror and acknowledge you have a problem.
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fynboslandscapes

Posted 312 days ago
Mum, you are responsible for what is happening in those schools, you have destroyed the future of those poor kids. You are responsible for their books, teachers, classrooms, true leaders do not run away from their responsibilities. If you were in this post in a country that respects education you would have gone to jail.
Do you know that your education system is the worst in Africa despite abundance resources?
Do you know that a grade 12 child in Swaziland, Lesotho, Zimbabwe, Malawi, Zambia, and all your neighbours are well informed than yours? they know how to read and write properly.
It is people like you Lady who causes these mess. Go university and see what is happening there/ THERE IS A HIGH LEVEL OF DROP OUTS AND FAILURES because of your poor system.
if you do not care what happened to the books then why are you keeping your job? are you dating your womanizing boss? are you going to be the 6th wife of him?

MicaParis

Posted 313 days ago
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The President must fire this irresponsible Minister in the blink of an eye, she must be followed by the Premier of Limpopo and the concerned MEC and HOD of Education in Limpopo! Well ANC will never solve the text books debacle because, Zuma does not have a matric, Motshekga have got Junior teachers Diploma, Mathale have got a ''bought'' BA in Administration, which equals matric because is not real, Masemola have got a matric and the HOD, Mr Thamaga have got a Junior teachers Diploma, how the hell can this misachievers lead our beloved children Education Department and moreover our precious Government!! Tell me! This is a stunning display of individual and group stupidity and mismanagement!
The second noble thing that he should do is to change leadership elective style of the ruling party which is something that should have been included in the policy document. That must pave a way to let the people in a form of an Act of Parliament to take center stage as far as the election of President, Deputy President, Ministers, Deputy Ministers, Premiers, MEC's and Mayors are concerned. We cannot tolerate a system of Government were the minority of 500 ANC friend related Cadres will decide for about 50 million South Africans who are most of them far much better educated than the likes of Nathi Mthetwa and Beki Cele to elect a leader who has all the capabilities of being a leader. We are tired of leaders like Yenkeni, Mathale, Mabuza, Nyanda, Block and Winnie, if the majority of South Africans can take over to elect leaders who can lead them not leave their faith to a political party which in turn elect their corrupt friends to lead us this country will be too far by now. Look at how countries like USA, Germany and Britain are well doing under this kind of system. I say let us let the majority to elect leaders not the minority branches of ANC who form 3% of South African population what about the other 97% we need to be represented as well as Comrades has dismally failed for the past 18 years to do exactly just that!!!ENOUGH! This will also be a test to see whether Comrades like Makgashule, Mathale, Block, Mabuza and other Comrades who are famous of buying and bribing delegates, that they will be able to buy and bribe 59 million South Africans to vote for them than bribing few branch delegates who are puppets and does not know nothing about leadership as they are completely illiterate many of them!!
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Ntebaleng

Posted 313 days ago
This has got mothing to do with the limpopo administration since it's powers were curtailed when the department was put under administration. The problem lies solely with your president ,Angie and treasury
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Francis

Posted 313 days ago
Its good that somebody from inside clean the windows, Thank you.
Transparency is most necessary at the moment.
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MicaParis

Posted 313 days ago
''Doctor Zuma'' and Angie have failed the Country big time!, they should go back to school and finish their studies before they can qualify to direct the education of our future prospective brilliant leaders! As they currently does not understand what the words ''leadership and management'' clearly mean. This is impossible and hopeless! You cannot let a Rat to run a cheese factory! Clearly a dog cannot guard over a roasted meat, what the hell were we thinking!?
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BokFan

Posted 313 days ago
@Ntebaleng

Bra Tebz

Dimpopo was put under admin in feb/march 2012.

The books should have been delivered in December 2011

Stop making excuses for criminals otherwise you will be getting the same marks as MS Angie

i.e shoe marks all over your backside and rope marks round your neck.


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Wiseguy

Posted 312 days ago
"This is a stunning display of individual and group stupidity and mismanagement! " ......hit the nail so hard I had to laugh out loud!!
I like and respect your comments a lot....please keep them coming!

davgol

Posted 313 days ago
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Angie is just an ignorant Tea Girl, she should get a job which suits her education !
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deebee

Posted 313 days ago
But Helen already has a tea girl - ask Juju!

m1si2zi3nzo4

Posted 313 days ago
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If the ANC elite do not know that the performance of public services is one of the central policy issues across the globe, it is not only incompetent to rule, but also incapable of learning. Comprehensive and robust knowledge on the knowledge on the impact of management on public services has important application to the world of both policy and practice. Whilst the ANC was still wondering listlessly in the African jungles service consumers, voters, citizens, regulators and other public, private and voluntary sector organizations, throughout the world, were taking strides towards realising a 'bang for their buck'. This was after realizing that politicians are giving them a raw deal (characterised by rampant corruption) from conflicting and meaningless policies dished out by shallow-minded politicians. The public service pale insignificantly in the face of the fat salaries they vote themselves every year. Service delivery decreases at double the rate of increase in politican salaries and the level of corruption.
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MicaParis

Posted 313 days ago
Absolutely right Comrade M1si2zi3nzo4.
Whilst at it you forgot to mention sex addiction which makes our Top Political Service Delivery Driver to spend 75% of their normal working time in Hotels all over the World holding lapdog and leisure holiday motivated International Trips to witness the world as some of them have never visited those countries before and is a lifetime mission accomplished for them but very sad because it is being done at the expense of the poor tax payer's money, for individual adventure and adult addictive entertainment antics that our top executives are currently displaying!!

RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 313 days ago
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Everyone is a comedian.
If it wasn't so bloody tragic, it would be hilarious.
Angie deserves to be tried for high treason. She is the Minister and she is ultimately responsible for taking the potential futures of our children and treating it like toilet paper.
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mbongwa_mugabe

Posted 313 days ago
I hate to agree with you but you right if this country was run by legitimate leaders not mickey mouse leasders we have here, Angie should answer.

Wort

Posted 313 days ago
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She says she gets 8/10 for not delivering. That sounds about right to me.

cANCerSurvivor

Posted 313 days ago
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*facepalm ...

ominous6996

Posted 313 days ago
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I normally dont comment much if not at all on these discussions but REALLY Angie? Really???
mxm
You dont get brownie points for being in your position!?! SMFH

mbongwa_mugabe

Posted 313 days ago
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"I don't deliver workbooks. I am not in the classroom. I don't know what all 12 million learners are doing," she said.
..

This is beyond arrogance but something else an alein behaver from our public servants.
The most corrupt organisation[ANC] should recall Angie before further damage. This is what you get when you voted the charmer to lead our country.

Thuka-Thuka

Posted 313 days ago
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"I don't know what all 12 million learners are doing". No. You haven't a clue what any of them are doing. Wow. Hey, why didn't you give yourself 10 out of 10? Why were you so harsh on yourself? Idiot.

Francis

Posted 313 days ago
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With the adventures of Madam andy and ilk, mustn't we keep the background of our ruling party in mind?.
Google: camp quatro zuma's involvement
Apartheid: A Crime; or Race Realism?: Uncensored: ANC's ...
and open the website:
h t t p://mbokodo-quatro-uncensored.co.nr/

With 783 in charge of the anc - intelligence/security section, the inmates had little change to proper education.
A paragraph out of Camp Quatro
"A crucial part of Mr Mngqibisa's evidence concerned the sexual abuse of young women exiles by members of the ANC security department."

In 2012 we still have the results and are ruled by a party where education, ethics, morals, decency and honour are laying in their bottom drawer.
For how long? Till the following election, hopefully.

deebee

Posted 313 days ago
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I for one think that the minister deserves 8 to 10. In maximum security.

SAHARAPAUL

Posted 313 days ago
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There is a song from the 70's which starts off: Oh Lord it's hard to be humble, when youre prefect in every way". There is some-one in this country who should be the MEC, in fact, this person could be a second Nelson Mandela, and that is Prof. Jonathan Jansen who is the Dean of the Bloemfontein University. This man has got vision, intelect, is not a racist, is humble and sees the good in all people. Come South Africa what is wrong with you???????????? Give this man the opportunity and we may have a brighter future - all of us.

GermanMouser

Posted 313 days ago
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I’m a fan of Basic Education minister. It is fun to listen to her & what I like the most; she doesn’t run out of Jokes. she is a star indeed 8/10. I have to tell my grandmother this joke I know she will laugh too. Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...


Minister you are no deferent from former Police Commissioner, do our Country & poor children a favour, please resign.....
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TSOENYANA

Posted 310 days ago
When Trevor Noah(The comedian) said the politicians will soon take their jobs because they are funnier than comedians, all the comedians needs to do is to simply tell the story as it unfolded I thought he was just doing his job, I mean making a joke.

Sadly though, that is be coming a reality."I don't deliver books,I don't go to class and I don't know what 12 million kids do".

Your common sense, if you have it and is common too, should tell you that you can't know wha other people are doing when you don't even know what you are doing yourself Madam Minister!

If I hear Zuma say the words "cabinet reshuffle" one more time, I promise you i am going to lose it!Nxa!!!!!!!