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Wed May 22 02:42:40 SAST 2013

Miners choose death over 'wage slavery'

SIPHO MASOMBUKA and TJ STRYDOM | 20 August, 2012 00:06
Police check the scene after the Lonmin Marikana mine shooting. "People have died already so we have nothing more to lose ... we are going to continue fighting for what we believe is a legitimate fight for living wages. We would rather die like our comrades than back down," said miner Kaizer Madiba.
Image by: Alon Skuy

As Lonmin yesterday re-issued its ultimatum to about 3000 striking rock-drillers at its Marikana mine to return to work or be fired, the miners insisted that they would "rather die" than return to "slavery".

Thirty-four striking miners were shot and killed at the mine, near Rustenburg, in North West, on Thursday when they stormed a police line.

"People have died already so we have nothing more to lose ... we are going to continue fighting for what we believe is a legitimate fight for living wages. We would rather die like our comrades than back down," said miner Kaizer Madiba.

President Jacob Zuma yesterday called for a week of mourning after the tragedy and set up an interministerial commission to deal with the crisis. He reiterated his call for a judicial inquiry.

Lonmin has refused to give in to the demands.

The JSE and London-listed company stood by the court order, obtained on August 10, that the miners return to work or be fired.

Madiba and his co-strikers watched 34 of their colleagues being shot and killed by police.

Armed with pistols, shotguns, pangas and traditional weapons, the miners stormed a line of police carrying semi-automatic rifles and pistols.

Yesterday, the miners vowed to fight to the death.

"The only thing that will end this strike is a positive response from management. I am still asking myself why management refuses to negotiate with us.

"We only want R12000 for rock-drill operators and a minimum wage of R7500 for everyone working underground," he said.

Madiba said the strikers would meet today to decide what to do next.

All they wanted, he said, was to be able to create a better future for their children back home.

Thursday's killings were against the backdrop of a week-long violent illegal strike by the Lonmin miners, in which 10 people were killed, including two policemen sent to bring calm to the situation, and two security guards, who were burned to death in their car.

Lonmin spokesman Barnard Mokwena yesterday defended the company's decision to re-issue the ultimatum, saying it applied only to rock-drill operators.

"There are many options on the table. It is not as if 'To fire or not to fire' is all we are considering."

Mokwena said it was not the company's decision to re-issue the ultimatum. Instead, he said, the wording was a consequence of the court order the company had obtained.

"The company is going through a mourning period and is focused on the needs of its employees and their families," he said.

But the ultimatum has angered the Association of Mineworkers and Construction Union (Amcu).

"It is too harsh of management to talk in this way," said Amcu treasurer Jimmy Gama, describing the ultimatum as "very unfair".

Frans Baleni, the secretary-general of the National Union of Mineworkers, said the situation was still very "sensitive" and it could not be expected that workers would take up their duties if they were threatened by more violence.

Zuma said yesterday: "We must avoid finger-pointing and recrimination. We must unite against violence from whatever quarter."

The inter-ministerial committee, which will be led by Minister in The Presidency Collins Chabane, is made up of North West Premier Thandi Modise and ministers including Mineral Resources' Susan Shabangu and Police's Nathi Mthethwa. They are due to visit Marikana today.

Zuma's spokesman, Mac Maharaj, yesterday said details of the judicial inquiry into the deaths of the miners would be made public this week.

The "Marikana massacre" has highlighted the problems affecting South Africa's mining industry.

Baleni pointed to "other hot spots in the platinum sector", hinting that there was a risk of a spillover of violence into other sectors.

Gideon du Plessis, general secretary of trade union Solidarity, said he knew of "early signs of the same conflict" in other places.

Chief executives - drawn from various mining sectors - met top government and trade union officials, as well as the Chamber of Mines, on Saturday to discuss the problems besetting the mining industry.

The meeting reportedly ended with the following goals defined:

Repair damage to the image of the mining industry;

Avoid a spillover of violence into other industries in the mining sector; and

Stabilise the industry to limit opportunities for what the meeting's participants described as "militant opportunists".

It is believed the last goal was in reference to expelled ANC Youth League president Julius Malema, who visited Marikana on Saturday.

He called for Zuma and Mthethwa's resignations because of the massacre.

The miners took a break from protests yesterday, sitting around in groups drinking, shaving and sharing memories of their dead comrades.

Though on Thursday hundreds of heavily armed police were patrolling Wonderkop, where the shooting took place, the only sign of a police presence yesterday was a roadblock set up for the police to search vehicles for weapons.

Police spokesman Captain Dennis Adriao said that though the situation was quiet but tense, a strong police presence in the area will be maintained until everything was under control.

The 259 strikers arrested in connection with the violent protests will appear in the Rustenburg Magistrate's Court today.

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Timbuck10

Posted 274 days ago
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"WE WAANT"!!!

"WE DEMUND"!!!!!

Enough already...

BornintheRSA

Posted 274 days ago
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These miners are adults who choose their own behaviour. They can choose to die but they can’t choose to kill or harm others nor destroy property of others. If they do, they must accept the consequences of possible death as well as the tragedy which befalls their families. Last week's behaviour was unacceptable. Pity the policemen involved who now live with the trauma of this unnecessary situation.
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GerriMichalska

Posted 273 days ago
Yes. The violence of last week was unacceptable but is that the only thing that
you find unacceptable?
Is it acceptable that miners earn a minimum wage when they risk life and limb on a
daily basis? Who could find that acceptable?
Would they be living in shacks and shanty towns with no running water if they were
earning decent and fair wages??
Lonmin is unjust and it is time for Lonmin and the South African government to stop
ensconcing/enriching themselves on the backs of the workers on the bottom.

RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 274 days ago
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Could one of the journalists PLEASE find out what these people are earning now - for real.

My understanding is that rock drillers start at an entry level of around R7,000 - excluding housing, performance bonuses, pension, medical and various other bonuses. That amount doubles for experienced drillers.

It would also be interesting if someone could find out if the unions are aware of just how financially fragile Lonmin is at the moment.
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Abdulla-Saleeh

Posted 274 days ago
I spoke to some mine workers about 3 weeks ago and those figures sound correct, but the may be the net and not gross.
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RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 274 days ago
Thanks. Maybe the unions or mine officials could confirm?

Even if it is net, deductions of R3,000 would be abnormally high on that salary. Unless there were court ordered deductions going off as well.

mbongwamugabe

Posted 274 days ago
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We are back to police state like in the white apartheid regime wow>
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BornintheRSA

Posted 274 days ago
I disagree. We are still in a state of unruliness where individuals choose violence over negotiation and where thoughtlessness for others prevails. Too much "me" thinking. The police were doing their jobs and acting in self-defence so that they could continue to do their jobs.
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mbongwamugabe

Posted 274 days ago
BornintheRSA

Really ? it's fine if that is what you think happened there.
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Polony_Lips

Posted 274 days ago
Actually no.... What happened here is plain stupidity now that you mention it.

If you want to strike.... do so without the "monkeynastics"

The cops did the right thing... You are quick to comment a boy the cops and their actions from the recliner of you living room or the safety of your work office. You go and stand in front of a crown of "striking" wokaz and let them come at you with shot guns , pangs and knives.

Its the rules if engagement sweetie.... If you don't react when u have the opportunity to do so and you are in danger.... YOU WILL BE KILLED. Bottome line... If they didn't shoot they would have been killed.

I would have like to see pork chop JUJU infront leading them them. Then perhaps we would have been better off. But sadly he instigates from the side and then stands back. Sadly the poor miners know no difference and don't see that they are just the pawns
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mbongwamugabe

Posted 274 days ago
Polony_Lips

Your hatred towards the future president[mr Malema] is amazing. Your wish about him mean nothing as you are nothing but less God, only God has the power to decide about Malema's future not some mickey mouse alein.
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ForeignObserver

Posted 274 days ago
mbongwamugabe, what makes you so sure that Malema is the future president? A president is not an opportunist who takes advantage of a situation like this tragedy to garner support for his ill thought out political goals. Malema was tossed out of public life recently yet, still, the media publish his thoughts and interviews. It is the media who fuel Malema and it is the media who will one day be sorry they ever did so. Mark my words.

To directly address your original statement about being in a police state. Do you even live in South Africa? The police are a barely functioning organization - hardly able to tackle minor crime - let alone warrant the labelling of South Africa as a police state. Ridiculous hyperbole will get you no where.

You may also be amused that I disagree strongly with the tone struck by Polony_Lips on here as I find his comments are clearly written to agitate racial sensitivities. As such Polony_Lips should be ignored as much as possible. Even if he does make one or two good points there is no reason for dropping racial aspersions such as 'monkeynastics'.

With the notable exception of the Original Momma this website's commentators are largely internet trolls as far as can be ascertained.

MicaParis

Posted 274 days ago
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I was very heartbroken to witness in disbelieve what the CEO and CFO of Lonmin described the disaster as just another ''social exercise'' that we are used to, that was pathetic! Notwithstanding the fact that private sector unlike Public sector is ''profit driven'' but however for extremely injured miners to come back to work today or face dismissal after what happened is a little bid of unfair exaggeration from the mine bosses! Temporary labour may be employed and also Government might help a great deal on any temporary measure relief as the President seems to be making administrative sense of the situation.

As black and white South Africans we need to have tough conversations about how to heal the socially engineered wounds that resulted from that reality. These wounds continue to undermine our ability to reach for our dream as a nation. Accusations of being a pessimist, prophet of doom, traitor to the cause and worse are all cries of anguish by a wounded people who have a low tolerance for any hint of lack of sympathy or disloyalty.

To the many white South Africans who are impatient with the constant blaming of apartheid for our failures to govern and become a prosperous nation, I would like to plead for patience and self-reflection. We should not be mistaken to imagine that your higher social economic status is a product of superior effort if not ability. We should not succumb to amnesia of the corruption and incompetence of past colonial and apartheid governments. Neither should you be in denial about your responsibility for putting right what went wrong then. Our status as a citizen accords us rights but also demands responsibility from us to promote real unity.

One need only look at the disdain that many captains of industry have for the very people in political authority positions whom they corrupt. It is very sad to realize that Unions and top Government leaders are selling the soul and flash of our workers in exchange of fat BEE deals.
I remain convinced that ours is a country destined for greatness if only we are willing to commit to living our dreams of unity in diversity and respect for dignity every day at the personal, professional and political level.

This requires a commitment to conversations that may at times be uncomfortable, but in the web of the extended family setting there should be enough safety to allow for all to be heard. And if there isn’t, we need to start re-weaving these spaces to become safe.
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QPCLCD308

Posted 274 days ago
''One need only look at the disdain that many captains of industry have for the very people in political authority positions whom they corrupt. It is very sad to realize that Unions and top Government leaders are selling the soul and flash of our workers in exchange of fat BEE deals.''
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Very true, Mica, There is only one thing that ANC Politicians will always choose fat BEE deals even above the massacre of the poor workers and police! They have got nothing to loose, they are only gesturing as leaders, the leadership that might slip out of their hands at any time1 So why care a damn about the situation, better enrich your self with money before is too late! ANC Comrades know that politics are a temporary high risk game that in which must collect fortunes before it get too dark and late to collect, that is all!!

m1si2zi3nzo4

Posted 274 days ago
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The vampire state propaganda machinery has swung into action, whilst the bereaved people have to wait for 'inquiry' to find out about a labour relations problem - it will probably renegotiate the workers increase. Remember the mine owners control the media, the unions, the ruling party, the state, etc. Listening to NUM interview (still no AMCU) it is crystal clear where the problem lies. The irony was a question posed as to whether (read carefully) NUM is prepared to negotiate with AMCU. The answer was that they cannot, as long as it uses violence to recruit people. The collapse of the state, the party, government, unions, communists, has been raised several times. No one can be held accountable for anything in such a state, hence the tendency to blame the 'past'.

i_stub_born

Posted 274 days ago
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AMCU origins lie in the fact that NUM, like others (NEHAWU, NUMSA, etc) and COSATU-VAVI-SACP axis are leeches that suck from the workers salaries and survive only because they must attach to another criminal organization, such as the ANC Mafiosi.

Baleni, from NUM has a monthly salary of over 100000 (M&G), the rest of "leathers" are probably well paid as well. AMCU is not taken into account in the meetings between the concerned parties, obviously because ANC-COSATU must protect each other's backsides, and so the problems will go on and on..........
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m1si2zi3nzo4

Posted 274 days ago
Its all about Mangaung, and everything must work for one person only. We have been in this situation for a while now. It is very long since we started before Polokwane. Frankly, it is beginning to look like it will end with one person. Only a skeleton of the ruling party will remain after 2014. Unfortunately, this applies to the state called South Africa.
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mbongwamugabe

Posted 274 days ago
Baleni owe you nothing wena maan, so what he earns is not your business. you been telling us about his salary the whole weekend and again this week, boring twit.
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i_stub_born

Posted 274 days ago
sorry to hear your unique grey matter is giving you tummy ache...get some relief soon.....

RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 274 days ago
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"Don't be sorry about what happened," Phiyega was quoted as saying

..... some days our political masters are just too embarrassing for words. 34 men lay dead and over 100 are injured. Anyone involved who isn't sorry about how it turned out needs their heads read.
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Abdulla-Saleeh

Posted 274 days ago
phiyega proved not only to be physically ugly but also at heart. I would have expected this on bheki cele not her, being a mother (Maybe).
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RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 274 days ago
I just cannot believe it !
That takes callous to whole new lows !
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Gormogon1

Posted 274 days ago
RSA.MommaCyndi

I see where your heart is. However, the media have only showed the weeping families of the miners killed by police. Why are they not showing the weeping families of the two police and security guards who were killed for simply doing their job? For that matter, the media felt nothing, nor showed any footage of the weeping families of the10 miners killed by other miners before this event took place.

I simply deplore this selective media coverage, and how they make out that the police were at fault by playing the sympathy card for a bunch of savage killers.
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RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 274 days ago
Gormogon1

The media has always been guilty of going for the sensational aspect. Can't blame them, that is what sells and they are only supplying what we (the readers) demand.

My problem is the message this is sending. You can take a life and not feel regret? Even people who are defending themselves feel regret. If you don't, then you have lost all humanity. I shudder to think what the cops on the front line are going through. They must be completely traumatised by what happened. Now we have a woman (who has no idea what she is talking about) telling them they shouldn't feel 'sorry'. Yea, I don't see how that is going to encourage them to seek assistance from the police councillor.
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QPCLCD308

Posted 274 days ago
Phiyega is a nonsense nincompoop who deserve to resign with immediate effect!! If was illiterate Zuma I would have kicked the hell out of her after her foolish display! The ugly madam have got no clue about the Department and the working conditions, shame on her!!
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MicaParis

Posted 274 days ago
Ironically those who know pedi or tswana will know what the word ''phiyega'' means in vernacular! It means a ''running stomach'' so in those conditions never mind the results of a person who is suffering from a running stomach!
I guess the police top dog is living by her ''surname'', absolutely nothing but feces, she is very weak to manage the Police Department, cannot even make a meaningful and honorable speech as a leader, shame ANC, we are in trouble! Nathi Mthetwa and Zuma has just given us another deadwood amid others who are already keeping the riffle rumbling, firing blanks as usual!!

Zuma had been advised wrong by his cronies (frienemies) once again!! We are just waiting for another court action to declare ''Phiyega/diarrhea'' unqualified and not fit for the position! Another perpetual failure and off side blunder from our Comrade President!!

Wiseguy

Posted 274 days ago
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The NUM(Cosatu)-SACP-ANC alliance(Government) and some of the ANC's top people are major share holders in Lonmin and even on the Board........now the the new union AMCU is in a major labour dispute with Lonmin managment......can ANYONE explain how there is NOT a conflict of interests here for the ANC and its alliance to play any role in the negotiations of AMCU vs LONMIN management ??

The NUM, and its alliance partners MUST recuse themselves from ANY role in these negotiations both in and outside of the boardroom !

While AMCU may well be a more "militant" union and a new start up clearly in competition with NUM, as long as it brings its members peacefully to the negotiations and adhere's to the labour laws of the country....it should be allowed to pursue its industrial action until a win-win solution is reached. If its members choose to act outside of the laws of this country....then they must unfortunately accept the consequances.

So if AMCU cannot function peacefully within the very liberal labour laws of this country......then its licence should be removed/cancelled and it should be outlawed/banned.

That said, Union bosses, the world over, use their members for self-enrichment and self-empowerment......invariably at the workers expense.....without exception!
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Wiseguy

Posted 274 days ago
Correction, lest I be falsely accused of being a propogandist.....I am not aware of NUM(Cosatu)-SACP-ANC alliance olding shares in Lonmin, but there are certainly senior ANC figures who are shareholders in Lonmin, and COSATU is a major alliance partner with the ANC. NUM is COSATU's largest affiliated union..........CLEARLY a conflict of interests exists......one that seeks to exclude and undermine the new upstart AMCU. AMCU members acted outside of the laws of this country....UNFORTUNATELY for all concerned, but that doesn't mean the public or state should ignore the obvious conflict of interests....or we may well see another Marikana sooner than later!!

AMCU you need to reign your members in, make sure they and you as a union function within the laws of this country......

m1si2zi3nzo4

Posted 274 days ago
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Will propagandists stop, please, and let independent thinkers take a hard look at the snippets that keep cropping - and being stifled - in this massacre? How do we explain a multi-year wage agreement in an industry whose fortunes change every second, and globally? Only NEHAWU has managed to settle in this fashion, and it is in the public sector. Escom did, but came back for more the very following year, away from the public eye. Has anyone noticed that the "inhuman" hostel system is very much in place in the mines, 18years in "democracy"? I bet your 'investigators' will brush over these factors, in case it accidentally does its work.
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RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 274 days ago
Propagandists?
Word for the day?

To attempt to prevent the every year strikes, the mining industry and the unions agreed to a two year deal. The workers and the unions couldn't give a tinkers about the volatility of the market. Their only focus is the wages.

Somehow, the rock drillers were not part of the package that NUM negotiated. The rock drillers got angry (think Implats) and started shouting. They then went directly to management to negotiate a package for themselves. Management and the rock drillers came to an agreement. NUM went ballistic about the management dealing directly with the rock drillers and threatened a walk out. The management then told the rock drillers that it had to go through NUM. The rock drillers were not impressed and AMCU got a large number of new recruits. NUM lost their required +50% representation and the ish hit the fan.

Now that isn't 'propaganda' that is (to the best of my knowledge) what happened.
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m1si2zi3nzo4

Posted 274 days ago
Its called a 'system' Each part contributes to the purpose, but no part by itself can achieve that purpose. The purpose of the strike was a better living wage. A better living wage is purposeless under certain living conditions. Just like a car is composed of many parts, which serve certain individual purposes, but it would serve no purpose to build a beautiful car, if it cannot provide personal transportation. Perhaps we can add 'dumb' to the fact that we do make and buy cars up to 300kmph, although our speed is limited to 120kmph. I digress.
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RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 274 days ago
???? Sorry but that went right over my head.

Rudi7

Posted 274 days ago
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Cde Julius Malema has scored another valuable point, with only a few months to Mangaung. From now onwards, the call for nationalisation of mines will be top of the agenda. Zuma shld fire his spin-doctor (Jackson Mthembu) who failed, as usual, to spin the whole situation in the President's favour. Arrogant statements from Susan Shabangu, Phiyenga, Nathi Mthethwa, are misplaced and unfortunate.

Mangqeshane

Posted 274 days ago
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Though I support any1 cilian's right to exercise his/her right of demanding or fighting for what he/she believes he/she is worth. However, when a person is armed with a dangerous weapon/s that individual ceases to be a CIVILIAN. He/she becomes a threat and as threats must be eliminated. I can not wait to see what the commission of enquiry will reveal. I was amazed by what Al-Jazeera vidoe footage showed.

muk1

Posted 274 days ago
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Business is there to make profit. Without profit no one will want to invest. Without investments we'll become another communist state where there is no initiative to work hard to make profits. Agreed greed comes into play here. Greed and exploitation is a beast we need curtail. There are no clear cut solutions to this; except to have credible leaders that puts humans first above mega profits.

Polony_Lips

Posted 274 days ago
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May I just ask something...... Why does the killing of rampant miners carrying arms get classified as a MASSACRE ?

In no way was this a massacre... If it was 18 woman and children that got slain in a rural village it would be a MASSACRE . The fact that they had pangs, spears, Shotguns and sidearms is no MASSACRE. Is this an media trait or a ANC trait ?

Just like Bhisho in the 90's .... Its not a MASSACRE when the protestors carry weapons
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m1si2zi3nzo4

Posted 274 days ago
Ever heard of 1976? Anything about 1960? Can you imagine which side you would have chosen to be on? But your choice wouldn't feature there. Neatly made for you.

Brisvegas

Posted 274 days ago
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can you imagine...South Africa under the Julius Malema regime where all mines have been nationalised...

I reckon the ANC would have a hard time explaining this one...

Maybe a good time to rethink nationalising an industry on the decline
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Polony_Lips

Posted 274 days ago
Look carefully of what he is trying to instigate here..... Its a mere means to an end to further his own agenda

Polony_Lips

Posted 274 days ago
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You're preaching to the converted here m1si2zi3nzo4
But you're missing the point, what happened in 1976 or 1960 is history, as this will be soon, there it was unarmed youth.... YES that was a massacre, but this cannot be compared to either Sharpville or any other incident.

Point made and you argue against it, so you seem to attack my statement. The mine workers were armed... .POINT... That means its not a massacre... GET IT
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m1si2zi3nzo4

Posted 274 days ago
I may miss the point but hit the target. I may miss both, but still achieve nothing. The issue for me is that an unprecedented number of strikers have been mowed down in the most brutal fashion. This, at a time and age where technology has vastly advanced our means of communication. We have rehashed the fact that police presence is provocative enough on its own. In this case police stated their willingness to use force prior to following people to the mountain. NUM stated its position of non-willingness to 'negotiate' with invaders of their 'home'. All this preceding the massacre, does not need rocket science to figure the likely outcome.
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Polony_Lips

Posted 274 days ago
Its still not a massacre, its a sad state of affairs, but no massacre
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Polony_Lips

Posted 274 days ago
To compare your point then , would the senseless killing of farmers who are unarmed and elderly in many cases, be a massacre ?

Amazing 18 miners are killed and there is an inquiry...

4000 farmers are killed in less than 24 months and its all cool ..... Weird isn't it
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Fair&Just

Posted 274 days ago
The stronger SAPS contingent was deployed after the striking miners did not comply with a Court Order, Fellow Miners were killed, Security guards killed, Hit list with names of those to be killed intercepted & Fellow SAPS officers were killed as a matter of public order.

There wasn't merely a thought of SAPS might being attacked, they were attacked even after first (calling on striking protestors to lay down arms + do not cross barrier) instructions and second (rubber bullets and stun grandes) stages were used!

The defensive SAPS manoeuvre wasn't a killing spree or massacre but a last resort by did you know a vastly outnumbered SAPS contingent

There is a difference between striking miners illegally protesting and striking miners illegally protesting armed with pangas, spears, side arms and shot guns.

Whom have killed those before the defensive SAPS manoeuvre had to be used are most probably the same whom instigated the malicious act on the SAPS whom merely were present because of the dangerous weapons carried by the illegally protesting striking miners.

Wont be surprized if when those Protesting Leaders whom have been causing not comply with standing Court Order, Killing Fellow Miners, Killing Security guards, Compiling Hit list for those to be killed & Killing SAPS officers be sentenced that cries of punishment too harsh, will be heard!

Ironically sentences of 6 years for rape or 10 years
when a farmer is brutally murdered are given but 20 years for stealing money is given!
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donorfatigued

Posted 274 days ago
This was nothing less than an armed insurrection against the state.

You can not call it anything less, when 3000 lethally armed men congregate on a hillside in an illegal gathering, refuse to disperse and then threaten police, meanwhile killing rivals, butchering two policemen and burning to death 2 security guards.

All the while, for many days, their witch-doctors are getting them psyched up for war amidst cries and chants of a very warlike nature, and issuing muti to make the bullets bounce off!

Crazy but true - you cannot make this stuff up!

The were determined to fight - they got their fight. Having exhausted a graduated force-response, the cops had no other means left to them, other than to run away - this was not going to happen!