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Fri May 24 16:17:35 SAST 2013

HIGH ALERT

GRAEME HOSKEN and AMUKELANI CHAUKE | 12 September, 2012 00:28
Expelled ANC Youth League president Julius Malema addresses mineworkers at the Gold Fields KDC Gold mine in Carletonville, west of Johannesburg, yesterday Picture: ANTONIO MUCHAVE .

Military bases were placed on high alert last night.

The status - the first of its kind since the advent of democracy - comes as axed ANC Youth League president Julius Malema is expected to meet soldiers near a military base in Lenasia, south of Johannesburg, today.

At the same time, Defence Minister Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula issued a strongly worded statement which said, in part, that ill-discipline in the military was a direct threat to the country's security.

Today's meeting comes after sources told The Times that top security intelligence briefings, involving several government ministers, were held last night.

In a statement issued late yesterday by Friends of the ANC Youth League, Malema said he would address soldiers after listening to their "cries and demands".

The meeting comes after Malema met disgruntled mineworkers from various companies around Gauteng over the past two weeks.

Malema's planned address has been slammed by the Ministry of Defence and Military Veterans slammed as incitement. He yesterday called for mineworkers to go on a five-day nationwide strike every month until mine bosses had listened to their demand for better wages and for National Union of Mineworkers leaders to step down.

Malema has called on the miners not to give up on their struggle for a R12500 a month salary.

It is a move economists say will shut down mines and affect pension savings.

Malema's spokesman, Floyd Shivambu, said: "The meeting is as a result of the pleas and requests the armed forces - soldiers of the SANDF - sent to Malema to come listen to and voice the military and soldiers' cries and demands.

"For a considerable amount of time now, South Africa's important component of its defence force has been marginalised and threatened with dismissal whenever they raised concerns about conditions of work."

Defence Ministry spokesman Siphiwe Dlamini said all bases had been placed on "high alert".

"The situation is being monitored. We cannot elaborate. Directives have been issued to base commanders and certain steps are being taken," he said.

Dlamini said it was the first time that something like this had happened in the military.

"The military is a non-partisan organisation ... this is being viewed as incitement ... which is a criminal offence ... it will be treated as such," Dlamini said.

Mapisa-Nqakula said Malema's intentions had been noted.

"It has been the expressed intention of Malema that his activities in the mining sector are aimed at rendering the sector 'ungovernable', thereby undermining the economy. The country cannot afford for similar instability in the military. The SANDF is the last line of defence of the sovereignty of the country. We cannot allow anyone to play political football with this institution," she said.

Mapisa-Nqakula said any attempt to destabilise the military would be regarded as anti-South African and counter-revolutionary at the highest level.

"It is not going to be tolerated. It must be stated in no unclear terms that the military operates within an environment of command and control wherein discipline forms an integral part.

"Any actions outside this realm will be dealt with decisively by the chief of the SANDF.

"The minister calls on all members of the SANDF and the public to distance themselves from these actions of Malema.

"No permission has been granted by the SANDF's command structures for any soldiers to participate in the proposed gathering.

"Any member who does without proper permission will be subjected to the disciplinary code of the SANDF. The compromise of discipline within the SANDF is a threat to the security of our country and all our people."

Military analyst Helmoed Heitman said it was clear the military was the next target.

"Malema turned his sights on the mines and unions, but did not succeed. Now he is targeting the military in an attempt to continue with his campaign.

"If you are intending to plot sedition, the military is a good place to start. If you want to destabilise the state you demoralise the military."

Heitman said a dim view should be taken of pseudo-politicians who addressing the military, which is meant to be "apolitical".

"It is definitely something to keep an eye on. Despite there being numerous systems such as the military ombudsman, the Defence Review Commission and service commission being in place to address soldiers' concerns, some troops will fall for Malema's rhetoric," he said.

SA National Defence Union spokesman Pikkie Greeff said the meeting was not union-driven.

"We have nothing to do with this. The information we have is that among the matters to be discussed are concerns over the deployment of ANC cadres to the top structures of the defence force, poor salaries and grievances around dismissals and disciplinary matters."

NUM spokesman Lesiba Seshoka said heeding the firebrand's calls would lead to massive job losses.

"To call on workers to embark on illegal strikes is totally irresponsible and childish.

"NUM condemns his attack on its leadership and the desperate behaviour of taking advantage of vulnerable people and trampling on rights of families of the deceased in Marikana in an attempt to score cheap political points.

"The National Union of Mineworkers appeals to all its loyal members to reject Malema's hogwash and to return to work.

"Cosatu called on mineworkers not to allow themselves to be used as a "political football".

"[Malema] is playing a dangerous game, exploiting the emotions of angry workers. This can only inflame tensions within the mining industry, flames which he is quite incapable of quenching.

"It is revealing that his main target is not the capitalist employers, who are responsible for the mineworkers' low wages and terrible conditions, but their union, the National Union of Mineworkers."

Peter Major, a mining consultant at Cadiz Corporate Solutions, said companies would lose $192-million a day should the national strike take place, a move that would lead to massive retrenchments.

"Eventually everyone would sell their shares. They would rather put their money in the banks, property and bonds.

"All these pension funds - the government pension funds, the mineworkers' pension funds and foreign pension funds - they will obviously sell all their South African mining shares," he said.

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SecretVoice

Posted 254 days ago
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The time has come to deal decisively with this criminal. Any reluctance to do so must be seen as a total collapse of the ANC as a political party.
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MsLee

Posted 254 days ago
Yep, this sure seems like sedition against a democratically-elected government to me ...
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Nstruggle

Posted 254 days ago
It is more than fact, is long our govenment were lead by sharks, thanks we had voice like Chris Hani, and he was assassinated by the evil forces, Long leave the spirit of Chris hani. Malema is a true fearless comrade we have in our time.

Thuka-Thuka

Posted 254 days ago
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Easy for him to say, he's worth millions, so this does not affect him in any way as much as it will the workers. But it is a sure way of him furthering his nationalisation agenda. So easy to be a populist, much harder to be a genuine leader.
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MicaParis

Posted 253 days ago
It is like fighting snakes to get anything done by the Government and Juju is clearly wasting his time and energy.
ANC ‘’hired’’ Juju to weed (as a garden boy) as ANCYL President and he went at it like a boy killing snakes, that is now currently haunting the ANC. It is upsetting to learn that someone (Juju) you once viewed as a good colleague / comrade is in fact a snake in the grass. In my opinion, government measures in containing and managing Juju’s over flows of fallacy are just so much snake oil.
But however Juju might be provoking extremely dangerous haystack giant snakes that can swallow him and excrete him as feces without any traces and identity!

RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 254 days ago
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Thaar she blows, Captain Ahab.

So Malema knows that if the mines get out of control, they will have to call in the military to help keep the peace so he is targeting them. Someone isn't as stupid as they look
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mmugabe

Posted 254 days ago
The future president is genuine man and fearless, this is what this lack at the moment leader like him.
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staren

Posted 254 days ago
By genuine and fearless, I'm sure you meant lazy and opportunistic... must have been a typo...
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mmugabe

Posted 254 days ago
staren

That is your views not mine,the future president don't need you to ok anything for him.
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i_stub_born

Posted 254 days ago
......"genuine and fearless`' when surrounded by six armed bodyguards and right in the middle of the last rows followed by his Land Rover ready to fetch him when the sh.t starts........

.........A courageous thug indeed!!!!!!............................
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staren

Posted 254 days ago
mugabe, you're right, he doesnt - it just amazes me how loyal you are to someone who has never anything for anyone other than himself, and right now seems hell-bent on destroying our country...
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mmugabe

Posted 254 days ago
i_stub_born

Your logic is amazing my man, the future president is not like an ordinary person like you but enemy of liars and cheaters.
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staren

hey i am not loyal to Malema but happy to see him remove zuma from the high office. Don't you see all the attempt is to unseat zuma and get someone who will take my country forward.
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staren

Posted 254 days ago
I do mugabe, but not at the expense of the miners, soldiers and everyone else that he is trying to exploit.

The mining situation for example, is an easy way for him to score political points, but if he has his way and thing continue unabated, the entire mining industry in SA has the potential to collapse, which in turn will destroy our economy, which in turn will produce more widespread unemployment, joblessness and poverty than we've ever seen before...

Ultimately in the long run, someone like Malema is nothing more than a danger to our country, and the ironic part is that his actions will end up affecting and hurting the poorest of the poor and the unemployed more than anyone else...
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i_stub_born

Posted 254 days ago
....irrespective of my logic, your "future president" is just an ordinary alley thug ready to pounce in the weaker soul, clever to run away if the victim is more powerful and insidious enough to start a fight between two parties without getting involved............Since you don't read history books, it is full of sadly famous characters alike, only the dimwitted cannot recognize them...........
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mmugabe

Posted 254 days ago
i_stub_born

Malema will be a president in your life time mark my lips DA agent.
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mohapisepeesa

Posted 253 days ago
@mmugabe dream on dreamer. U think that the majority of south Africans r as stupid as u r? U Si jwayela kabi

Wort

Posted 254 days ago
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Mapisa-Nqakula said any attempt to destabilise the military would be regarded as anti-South African and counter-revolutionary at the highest level.

So what? Is he breaking the LAW? If not, there's sweet blowall you can do to stop him.

xivavula

Posted 254 days ago
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Stupid is as stupid does.

Ntebaleng

Posted 254 days ago
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I have mentioned in this forum sometimes ago that leaving a gap in leadership encourages the Napoleons to take the space. Our leadership is too farr removed from the masses and the space is now being occupied by those with better sound bites.Malema may be branded an inciter of violence but he is voicing the voices of the voiceless. Today NUM statements are like those of capitalists and they tell the poor masses that if they stand up for their rights the investors will pull out.

If one listened to NUM now and what the DA/FF and Business is saying there is no difference which means the poor and the working class are now on their own.What alternative does NUM have as the counter offer to the R12500 pay hike the miners want from the employers nada, all they are saying is that the miners should not listen to Juju but who else is making the correct sound bites be it not Juju.

Juju speaks in the base with the masses and NUM speaks from the boardroom, from this narration who is on the side of the miners NUM in their ivory air conditioned high towers or Juju who is in the filed woth the workers.Juju reminds me much more of the former retired and late leaders of the strugle, their prejudices did not disuade them from the course.To me NUM leaders and most of the national democratic movement leaders are more like the BCM leaders who were co-opted by the apartheid system after the death of Biko. Biko belived in a classles society and encouraged Blacks especially Africans do to something for themselves to liberate themselves.

The current BCM leaders including our esteemed leaders in the Alliance remind us how we must submit to the status quo with the hope that thing will change. Perhaps Cyril was planted by capitalists in the NDM that is why he is always punted as the best leader. The Cyril who startyed NUM is not the same Cyril we know today. The Cyril we see today is no different from the colonist capitalist, he is no different from the Openheimer or Helen Suzman who claimed to fight in our corner when in actual fact the were reaping the fruits of exploitation of the oppresed class i mean the Africans.

In a way the masses are being told that halve a loaf is better than no bread, remeber Mary Antoinette saying that let them have cakes.Why is the CCMA in wage negotiations when the employer has not even given a counter offer.The CCMA should in actual fact be roped in when the dispute has been accepted but what happens now smacks of mthe Gupta strategy to play with the minds of the poor and uneducated so they can think that they their case will be properly represented when in actual fact they are being played by a capitalist system.

Our capitalist Cyril buys a buffalo for R20mil but pays R2mil compensation for the death of 34 + 10 dead at the mines. These are his employees he reminds me of how farm workers were made to submit by being offered rashioned milk,maize meal and vegies when they were supposed to be payed.These are treated like animals they do not desrve money as payment but food to have energy to continue doing hard manual labour.

Loggenberg

Posted 254 days ago
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Mapisa-Nqakula said: "anti-South African and counter-revolutionary at the highest level"
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The ANC is out of their dept in running the country. They are still an underground movement and will never transform to be a government. Hiding behind apartheid. 10 more years of the ANC and SA will never recover
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buddi

Posted 254 days ago
They anc haven't got the faintest at the moment. They don't know where to start, and I cannot see that there is anyone in the anc that is any better than zuma.
So we are doomed.

MartBotha

Posted 254 days ago
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Surely Malema's calls for insurrection and disobedience and the general undermining of authority are tantamount to treason or terrorism......at the very least it should be sufficient to have him arrested. Now I realise that this action may cause a pot to boil over, but the way I see it, this is going to happen sooner or later. Why do you think that ANC cadre deployments have stolen and corrupted at will for the last number of years ?. It is because they know what is coming...this country is a seething cauldron that will soon explode into total anarchy and chaos....who is going to police crime when a war of attrition...and survival, is on the go ! Foreign powers too are privy to what is coming...an example of this is the migration of labour to this country (chinese) and the stripping and destruction of national assets.
This is not as far fetched as you may think. The country erupts, the Chinese move in and take over and strip the mines of gold, platinum and diamonds plus whatever else they need, They use their own labour and import the Chinese Red Army to protect their interests...mines become fortresses/no-go areas while insurrection and civil war goes on all around.
Why not in South Africa ?.....it is going on in African countries to our north as I write this.
Last week the Finance Minister (sic) in Mugabes government complained about revenue from diamonds....quite simply the money is in Beijing Boet.

Francis

Posted 254 days ago
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How will South Africa look in a few months time when the military act like the police and shoot selectively another 44 from the rulers camp?

LeeMsipha

Posted 254 days ago
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I had said this before that Malema will bring SA to a halt -they made him - and in the making they underestimated him - these nothing they can do about it now - if you follow him all his interviews this was long coming - forget about his arrogance listen to every story told add it up you will find a reason why this is happening today im behind JUJU 100 %

ChristianityforEver

Posted 254 days ago
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Stop being emotional. Nationalisation will never work in Africa because of corruption. It has failed in zim. Nationalisation only benefits politicians. Zim keeps asking for money. We zimbabweans know better. Mugabe used nationalisation to woo voters after his corrupt ministers had looted the country and couldn't sustain the economy. We zims came this die to sout africa. If south africa goes down where will you go to. Jump into the sea. Refugee life is not easy.

MuhammedSal'Allah

Posted 254 days ago
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I work and reside in a mining area called Orkney in the North West where abject poverty is as visible as day light. The enslavement of the people is still visible but this time around in a different weight and size.

A large percentage of underground working class is perpoted as "the main team of production" whereas on the otherhand are being remunarated unaccordingly. It is heartrenching to see how miners are being treated, from housing or lack thereof, to illtreatment by mine management, to cruel working conditions they work under, etc.

The mines are a ticking time bomb, the miners blindfolds are being lifted from their eyes each day that passes. At the nearby Gold Plant, miners know of how gold dust is being sold on black markets and how loaded their white masters are due to this corrupt activity and only blacks get arrested when caught by Asset Protectors, whereas the main benefector is living it up with no hint of being arrested cross his mind.

Juju is only pointing out to what the miners have been calling for for years, but with NUM leadership squashing their demands and letting them settle for 8,9 and 10% increase annualy, which is nowhere near what the miners demand.

NUM, COSATU and ANC have only themselves to blaim for the current uproar.
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MsLee

Posted 254 days ago
This, I feel, gets to the very heart of the issue. Unless the economic inequality in SA is addressed, we're headed for a very torrid time indeed. And the fact that the Lonmin CEO earns 125 times what the average rock drill operator earns is just a symptom of a far greater problem. Not only is this kind of remuneration gap unjustifiable, it's immoral. People who put in hard, dangerours working days deserve to be able to live decently - and to have their needs for food, housing, clothing, education, basic services and health met. Sadly, in the leadership vacuum left by the current government, we have an opportunist like Juju taking the reigns. And I fear we're too far down the line to turn the tide ...

SuiGeneris

Posted 254 days ago
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Zuma should act swiftly against malema.

It is crystal clear that malema have a vendetta against Zuma and he is out and out busy to try and destroy him !

Clearly malema is conspiring to create mutiny in the defense force, which of course is a criminal offence !

STOP BEING TIMID MR ZUMA !

ACT NOW ! THIS IS YOUR CHANCE !

Khadaffi15833

Posted 254 days ago
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And there goes the neighbourhood....

Ntebaleng

Posted 254 days ago
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If anything stupid can be done to Juju this country will be in flames and there will be no turning back. When Chris Hani was killed there was a Mandela to steer the cource and emotions . Right now there is nobody who will stop the bloodbath, Maphisa Nqakula and friends must be very careful of the concogtion they brew, it might be like a drug taken by Muslim fundamentalists suicide bombers.

If one takes that drug there is no turning back but only death and destruction.
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SuiGeneris

Posted 254 days ago
''''''If anything stupid can be done to Juju'''''''

What would you consider to be ''anything stupid'' ?

We have laws. Should malema act against these laws and the government take action and charge him, would you consider that as stupid ?
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i_stub_born

Posted 254 days ago
The Purple Fatso is much of a coward to become a "martyr"................
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m1si2zi3nzo4

Posted 254 days ago
Our vampires are a nervous wreck. All it takes is for a Malema to shake his torso, then feathers fly all over the place. A nervous country will go Bang, bang, bang, just like the Marikana massacre, at a drop of a pin, or a Malema's cough. Its clear now who, really, is "Malema-phobic"

Stirrer

Posted 254 days ago
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A hallmark of any good soldier is discipline.
Funny that they should plea to be addressed by someone as ill-disciplined as Foolius!

Makoya1zn

Posted 254 days ago
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As a SAn citizen & a card carrying member of the ANC i think we created a monster. Malema is what we call a factory fault, if u listen to his interviews u begin to understand that he(Malema) was made & trained to lead the ANC one day but they have since chased him from the movement. As much a i hate to admit it the only time he will shut up is when he is dead.

They say sometimes one life has to be sacrificed for the greater good of the country. We have seen about 45 already dead in Marikana all because of his incitement of the workers. His problem is he shoots from the hip & is lazy to think. Even if Zuma is not re-elected in Mangaung there is no way someone sane will allow him to come back within the movement.

Malema wants to hijack the ANC & country & that is not how things are done under democracy. Just like Zuma did those who want to lead the ANC are using him & will dump him like a used condom that he is. I seriously think something has to be done to shut this spoilt brat up otherwise SA will suffer more in years to come. Please shut him up by hook or crook i honestly don't care how.

My ANC My Home My religion
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SuiGeneris

Posted 254 days ago
''''''As much a i hate to admit it the only time he will shut up is when he is dead.''''''

I think you are right......Some people do know when not to overstep the boundaries.....

malema's IQ doesn't !!
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Thuka-Thuka

Posted 254 days ago
"Malema is what we call a factory fault..." is the most fantastic line I have read in many months. Brilliant!

staren

Posted 254 days ago
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Honestly, I dont know how people can support him so blindly. His only motivation is to create chaos with the intention of hopefully being the one left standing when the dust settles - he couldnt care less about this country or the people he's exploiting... cmon people, read between the lines and use your grey matter...

i_stub_born

Posted 254 days ago
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A soldier is not a union member. By definition he/she obeys commands and swears an oath to defend the country when ordered so. There are moral and ethical issues if he/she does not agree with an order, e.g.: 'shoot yourself' or 'kill this baby', (these are extreme examples), then there must be a protocol to process the situation. Inversely, the higher ranking officers and specialized people appointed to deal with this must take over until the problem is solved........well, that is in theory anyway!!......

When the ANC took over and stuck its paws in the institution, this ceased to be an effective one. You cannot trust elements with high calibre weaponry who might fraternize with the enemy, because ït is their constitutional right"....or sell their guns if they don't have cash.....

When a low class demagogue like the Purple Fatso with his dark Friends are going to subvert the institution, logically to create chaos and yes, hoping for a civil war of "blacks vs whites" out of which he can become a "democratic dictator" (HA HA HA HA HA)......then he should be subjected to the existing laws and Constitution........Otherwise, the convicted Boeremag would have to be allowed to subvert the country from the other end, is that not???.......
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SuiGeneris

Posted 254 days ago
[2] Section 126B of the Defence Act provides as follows:

“(1) A member of the Permanent Force shall not be or become a member of any trade union as defined in section 1 of the Labour Relations Act, 1956 (Act 28 of 1956): Provided that this provision shall not preclude any member of such Force from being or becoming a member of any professional or vocational institute, society, association or like body approved by the Minister.
(2) Without derogating from the provisions of sections 4(h) and 10 of the Military Discipline Code, a member of the South African Defence Force who is subject to the said Military Discipline Code, shall not strike or perform any act of public protest or participate in any strike or act of public protest or conspire with or incite or encourage, instigate or command any other person (whether or not such person is a member of the South African Defence Force or an officer or employee referred to in section 83A(2) serving in the South African Defence Force or a member of any auxiliary or nursing service established under this Act) to strike or to perform such an act or to participate in a strike or such an act.
(3) A member of the South African Defence Force who contravenes subsection (1) or (2), shall be guilty of an offence.

MicaParis

Posted 254 days ago
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The politician is like an acrobat, he keeps his balance by saying the opposite of what he does.
Every political system is an accumulation of habits, customs, prejudices, and principles that have survived a long process of trial and error and of ceaseless response to changing circumstances.
If the system works well on the whole, it is a lucky accident, the luckiest, indeed, that can befall a society.
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SuiGeneris

Posted 254 days ago
''''''''The politician is like an acrobat, he keeps his balance by saying the opposite of what he does.'''''''

There is a saying - One can only fool some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time.

Some of us do know the difference.
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MicaParis

Posted 254 days ago
SuiGeneris

Throwing punches at thine air will make others think otherwise about you!

Read my last sentence on the comment very carefully! Surely the irony and meaning behind that sentence is exactly the relevant answer to your reply! Better up your game to be able to cope in media commentary game otherwise you will burn your fingers thereby portray yourself to be a mockery by those who can cope at that level! Certain sentences have traps and deeper understanding to separate chaff commentary from reasonable commentary and reasonable commentators, be careful before you ''eat yourself up''!
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SuiGeneris

Posted 254 days ago
''''''Better up your game to be able to cope in media commentary game otherwise you will burn your fingers thereby portray yourself to be a mockery by those who can cope at that level!'''''

Ditto !

Your rhetoric has become real boring and even more, most of it is a lot of balderdash.
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MicaParis

Posted 254 days ago
If you thought you are the only ''best'' available than you were wrong!

You sound too much of a woman in ''domestic violence'' situation but however you have the freedom of opinion and expression in terms of the purport and spirit of the constitution.

If my comments are boring you! Why not, simply ignore them or read and keep quite. I am telling you if I were you (an intellect) I would act like wise to avoid being laughed by those who does not share the same view!?

I for one read certain comments and totally avoid hogwash commentary and commentators. I never reply to chaff commentary unless mistakenly or relevantly directed to me like you are doing! And if your replies were not leveled against me I would never respond to you ever!?

Timelive website is visited by many people all over the world as such my comments are in any way directed to anybody like you! If you could have kept quite! We would have avoided the whole situation after all!
From today I will never entertain or take you any serious, you have just ''judged'' yourself by the attributes of your misdeeds that an intellect can easily avoid by ''keeping quite''

Remember if you comment sense I will reply and congratulate you, I play the ball not an individual!
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SuiGeneris

Posted 254 days ago
''''''''you have just ''judged'' yourself by the attributes of your misdeeds that an intellect can easily avoid by ''keeping quite'''''''''

Margaret Thatcher once said, ''If you have to tell people that you are a lady, then you are not.''

Same applies to you trying to tell everybody how smart an intellectual you are !

You suffer from a huge superiority complex and in the process you are making a fool of yourself !

Makoya1zn

Posted 254 days ago
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Out of all the things that Malema is doing we all know what he is trying to do, which is removing Zuma from ANC & GOV. How is this different from what the Boeremag were doing? Why isn't he charged with high treason? Trying to overthrow GOV is a very serious offence of which he(JUJU) should spend the rest of his pathetic life behind bars.
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SuiGeneris

Posted 254 days ago
Lets see if Zuma is capable of using his testicular fortitude for matters other than reproduction.

Luren

Posted 254 days ago
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I quote from our great leader ...
“I have walked that long road to freedom. I have tried not to falter; I have made missteps along the way. But I have discovered the secret that after climbing a great hill, one only finds that there are many more hills to climb. I have taken a moment here to rest, to steal a view of the glorious vista that surrounds me, to look back on the distance I have come. But I can only rest for a moment, for with freedom come responsibilities, and I dare not linger, for my long walk is not ended.” ― Nelson Mandela?

I have read the comments .... Interesting and scary that people are ready to follow a person like Julius. History in Africa should make much more aware of the risks facing our country...I will name a few Idi Amin (Uganda), Robert Mugabe ( Zimbabwe once a shining light...now??),
Charles Taylor – Liberia, Siad Barre – Somalia.
Remember Rome was not built in a day...our country is still a fledgling democracy. Most successful democracies have taken hundreds of years to get where they are. South Africa is a shining light in Africa, we need to keep it this way. Future leaders are being born everyday, let's give them a chance to progress our country otherwise their future and ours will be refugees in our own country! Ask the Somalians, the Congolese, the Egyptians, the Sudanese....should I go on?
Julius brings these rewards with all his incitements. Julius if you truly love this country and people...think About our great leader's wise, wise words of freedom and responsibility. Isineke (patience) people of South Africa, Amandla (strength) people of South Africa, izinhlakanipho ( Wisdom!).
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m1si2zi3nzo4

Posted 254 days ago
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High Alert! on a citizen adressing soldiers? Or was his banning order not applicable only to the ANC, but also to the country? How much apartheid practices do we need to prove that we are duds?
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MicaParis

Posted 254 days ago
m1si2zi3nzo4

That makes sense to me!

The government mischief that the so called 'Juju' in media spoofs has got freedom of speech and a certain equality to the law in terms of the spirit and purport of the constitution just like any ordinary citizen such as political commentators like Justice Malala and Ephraim Habib!?
Or may be in terms of the Minister (government) all those things only become grievous and dangerous if they only come from Malem's mouth!?

Pity the ANC did not realise that expelling him from the ANC would give him free leverage and perpetual over flow of fallacy as he is currently a free loose cannon that ANC is unable to contain. Well the ANC read the calculations very well but have failed dismally to read the danger and instability that Juju might cause before they expel him out of the gravy train, the move which Juju did not take lightly but very seriously unlike the ANC!?

rrza

Posted 254 days ago
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Unfortunately the biggest fear of our current government is to be likened to the previous government. This has totally disempowered them when it comes to dealing with situations like this. As soon as any politician speaks against the likes of Juju someone just has to mention the dreaded phrase "...like the Apartheid era" and immediately said politician dives for cover.Effectively Juju is a seditionist and should be treated as such.