Kabul tragedy: SA bleeds
"We just want our boys home. They were ordinary okes, doing extraordinary work in extraordinary circumstances to provide for their families."
This is the message from families of the eight South African aviation experts killed in yesterday's suicide bomb attack in the Afghanistan capital, Kabul.
Though details of the fatal blast are sketchy, it is believed the eight - two of whom were to have married their loved ones soon - stopped for fuel while travelling along the city's main road.
It was a stop the killer, a 20-year-old woman whose terror group was apparently enraged by the recent anti-Islamic US-made movie Innocence of Muslims was prepared for.
The bomb is believed to have been hidden in the Toyota Corolla that the woman drove into the men's minibus.
The blast completely destroyed the minibus, ripping the South Africans' bodies from the vehicle as it and several others burst into flames. In total, 12 people were killed.
The eight South Africans, who included pilots, engineers and aviation support staff, were working for aircraft chartering company BalmOral Central Contracts and the aviation sub-contracting firm CemAir.
CemAir leases aircraft to BalmOral, which has logistical chartering contracts with the allied forces and the Afghanistan government.
Mark van Buuren, the uncle of aircraft maintenance engineer Johan Bouchaud, 30 - who along with Fraser Carey, 31 - was killed in the blast, said: "None of us can believe it. It does not make any sense. There are no words to describe our pain.
"You see this on TV every day, but you don't expect it to happen to your family."
He described Bouchaud as an ordinary person "like you or me", who loved aircraft.
"Flying and aircraft were his life, his passion. This was not the first time [he went] to Afghanistan.
"Johan, who worked for CemAir, went to Afghanistan because he wanted to help his family. The money was good and he wanted to be able to support them," he said.
Van Buuren said Bouchaud was due to return to South Africa next week. "We were all looking forward to seeing him again. He had been gone for more than six weeks."
Van Buuren said all the family wanted was to get Bouchaud's remains home.
"That is the priority. All we want is our boy home, but it is not going to be easy. They still have to identify all of them before we can bury him."
Messages of support and love flooded the Facebook pages of some of the men.
"RIP chine, you will never be forgotten!! The way you took life in your stride and always put a smile on our faces," read one to Carey.
"Frankie my boy! Your shenanigans will never be forgotten neither your eternal thirst! Clear skies all the way my boy!"
Carey's former Johannesburg high school, King Edward VII, tweeted condolences to his family in a tribute to him.
BalmOral CEO Sej Dunning said Afghanistan had become chaotic following the anti-Islamic video, making it dangerous to travel from one side of Kabul to the other.
He said identifying the bodies was extremely difficult. "We are in the process of identifying bodies."
Many of the families of South African pilots and support staff working in Afghanistan waited in anguish yesterday for information about their loved ones.
Some received brief messages from men in Afghanistan informing them that they were okay. The men could not speak by phone because their communications are monitored by the US military.
A BalmOral staff member said the company provided aircraft, pilots, maintenance crew, administrators and "everything else their clients needed to run their own private flights". He declined to name its Afghanistan clients.
President Jacob Zuma sent condolences to the victim's families.
"I am deeply saddened by the deaths. Our thoughts and prayers are with the families of the deceased," he said.
The US embassy condemned the incident, with US ambassador Donald Gips saying: "This vicious attack again shows the insurgents have no respect for human life.
"As Secretary [of State Hillary] Clinton has said, there is never any justification for violent acts of this kind."
Nelson Kgwete, spokesman for the Department of International Relations and Cooperation, said it was offering consular support to the victims' families.
"The department is in contact with the aviation company that employed the deceased.
"The department is also in possession of the list of names of the deceased. Efforts to confirm their identities and to contact their next-of-kin are currently under way," he said.
"The department wishes to express its sincere condolences to the families, friends and colleagues of the deceased."


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Posted 246 days agoRemote
muk1
Shongweni
Posted 246 days agoMicaParis
Posted 246 days agoThe sentence says it all, I feel very pity for the families involved, especially young children who had been left destitute.
The world is a strange mysterious place which is full of many questions in respect to its miseries, fictions, filth and folklore, of which will forever remain unanswered, the questions and answers of which will forever remain the same.
donorfatigued
Posted 246 days agoIf ever the claims of a 'religion' being devoted to psychopathic violence have been proven by events, this is it!
ppss
Posted 246 days agoMercenary
Posted 246 days agoI pray for the family cannot imagine loosing a loved one, hope they rest in peace and their family find the strenght to continue with their lives.
bugsy
SuiGeneris
Posted 246 days agoMuhammedAbdulRahman
Posted 246 days agoHate speech (which is a crime in this country) will not be tolerated on this website. This comment qualified as hate speech and has thus been removed - ED
DaveinSA
"Kill all the unbelievers and the world is a better place for all humanity?"
QPCLCD308
you have just misplaced the litmus paper! all animals are equal none are equal than others.
mzansi-wanda
Condolences to the families of the innocent people (bread winners) who were slained without cause. May the Gods cover them in a blanket of love, solace and understanding in these trying times.
Sad indeed.
Stirrer
Surely only an insecure religion can harbour such extreme ideas? Do you have evidence that Muslims are being killed by the "unbelievers" simply because they are Muslims? Barbaric actions by radical fundamentalists only strengthen other Faith-based religions like Christianity, which are based on love rather than hate!
muk1
Your thinking is definitely outdated. How can you say kill all the unbelievers? Where does this logic stop? Next you will kill all gay Muslims, then all women that don't wear parda (black ninja outfit? Tolerence and education brother is the way to go. If Islam is about peace; then there is NO place to justify killings.
staren
So just because someone doesnt share the same religious OPINIONS as you, you think you have some god-given right to take their lives? On the one hand you tell us God is Merciful, God is Compassionate and God is Great and responsible for the life and beauty that surrounds us, then the other you us its your duty to take the lives of those same creatures that your God created, simply because they dont hold the same beliefs as you...
Please, until the moment that God or his Angel actually appears to you in person and commands you to go and "Kill all the unbelievers and the world is a better place for all humanity", please, please, start thinking for yourself, and stop believing everything simply because you are told it is so by other men (and yes, reality check, the Quran was written by men - that it the word of God, is nothing more than your opinion).
RIP the victims.
Mercenary
Solm
SuiGeneris
Explain this.
Why do these islam suicide bombers [martyrs] believe that they will go straight to heaven when they kill people of another religion ?
Is this what your islam god teaches you ?
muk1
People interpret holy scripts differently. Jihad has 100 different explainations. A few extremists have taken the words and minced the meaning; hence you have these crazies that believe that dying for the cause will guarantee a seat in heaven. All religions advocate peace; but the followers are the worst examples. Lets all strive to become like Mahatma Ghandi and the world will be a better place to live in.
Anticrooks
QPCLCD308
Posted 246 days agoHanifManjoo
Posted 246 days agoWasn't that the mantra of you whites during 'apartheid' days (and still is in the west to this day about Muslims)?
Even Chrisitianity & Judaism preach and practise violence; and all religions teach peace (what a contradiction)!
So, take your pick!
BobbyBob
Thats the difference.
Solm
Posted 246 days agoSecretVoice
Anticrooks
Solm
You didnt get my logic at all.I said these mercenaries are AIDING the occupation of Afghanistan.Why are you making an example about Zimbabweans and others?I didnt know this country was under military occupation, let alone having these nationalities aiding our occupation.
BobbyBob
Solm
What Afghan government are you talking about?The one installed by the Americans that control 10% of Afghanistan?Its more like these people are contracted by the Western forces to help manage Afghanistan.This is the cover they using but they most probably mercenaries.
BobbyBob
Solm
Who doesnt like education?Who doesnt like woman?Who doesnt like justice?What are you on about?
BobbyBob
Solm
Yeah the invasion of Muslims countries and the killing of Muslims is in my brain! Its all in my brain right?
BobbyBob
I hope one day you get a life man. Shed the cloak of misery.
Solm
EddyDeepfield
Posted 246 days agoppss
Solm
Syrian rebels are armed by the West and their Arab allies.So these rebels might be Muslims technically but they are fighting for a Western agenda.Therefore the blood being spilled in Sryria (and the Lybian one) is in the hands of the West.
BobbyBob
Solm
Yeah you right, they just want their resources.
BobbyBob
Solm
Yes they pay for the oil.The same money they invest in the West.You tell me who benefits from such a relationship.Even the money these idiots invest in the West, they cant disinvest it.You tell me who benefit.
BobbyBob
Solm
seen_it_all
Quick reality check: what you see happening between East and West at the moment IS the real 21st century and exploitation by the west is a massive problem now just as it was in the past. Claiming that muslims should join YOUR special vision/version of the 21st century is like telling them to just shut up and let themselves be exploited a little bit more. Quoting Tony Blair is even more ridiculous - people are calling for him to be put on trial for crimes against humanity!!! Should we simply forget that he and Bush pulled off an invasion of a foreign country with the west believing the lies about weapons of mass destruction? I can't remember any cases of muslim countries invading western ones - can you???
The "Jesus who" era is just about as far away as the "Mohammed who"? era? or "Yahweh who"? era. Sorry, but taking away anyones religion is just not a solution.
Christians no longer torture????? Never heard of WATERBOARDING or Guantanamo Bay, I guess!!!
You talk about "religious indoctrination and anti West politics" - what better example for "religious indoctrination and ANTI-EAST politics" than the ridiculous video clip causing all this outrage and bloodshed. Just goes to show that Western religious fundamentalism is alive and well...
Man, there are more holes than arguments in your arguments...!!!!
EddyDeepfield
Posted 246 days agoSolm
Your logic is twisted.The solution is the West getting the heck out of Muslim countries and minding their own business.The real core of the problem here is the quest of the West to dominate and plunder the resources of other countries.This is the problem here that you seem to ignore.Stop sticking your head in the sand and wake up.
EddyDeepfield
Solm
Im not against globalisation if it means working together while each country maintain their sovereignty.If globalisation means being under the Western control, then Im not interested.Globalisation and Western control are not synonymous.You seem to be confusing the two.
BobbyBob
Solm
You naive now you think everybody is.With your globalisation, its everybody under who? I cant drop the West thing,as you say, its very much a big part of the problem in the world.
BobbyBob
Solm
AllanWhitehead
Posted 245 days agoRIP, knowing that God Is a Great GOD....
i_stub_born
Posted 245 days agoWhy the Muslims don't get the heck out of Western countries then, go back to their countries of origin and administer their own resources??????......
Solm
Its the Western countries occupying Muslim countries, not the other way around.
i_stub_born
Solm
Muslims live in the West, they not militarily occupying the West.Surely you know that.
i_stub_born
......for these same fanatic lunatics a single westerner, and I am not talking about military, in a muslim country represents an "infidel" who must be dealt with..........
Solm
.......why do they prefer to live in the Western countries instead of their own???......Why are there fanatic muslims milking from western economies instead of going back to enslave their own?.......
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Most Muslims in the West are independent professionals or business people.Yes there are refugees too in Spain/France/ Italy from North African countries.These North African Muslims are in the countries that colonised and plandered their countries and left it rapped.These refugees are running away from corrupt regimes in their countries supported by the same former colonisers.This is the reality, far from the simplistic rhetoric you spewing here.
......for these same fanatic lunatics a single westerner, and I am not talking about military, in a muslim country represents an "infidel" who must be dealt with..........
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Thats another simplisic statement.There are Muslim countries with non-Muslims like Iran, which has a very large Jewish population that has been there for over 2500 years.Egypt has a Christian population that has been there for almost 2000 years.The same with Tunisia and Morroco.This distortion of trying to make Muslims intolerant to others is a new thing.Muslims have lived with non-Muslims for over a thousand years, in peace.Its only recent, after the discovery oil in Muslim countries, that the problem with between the West and Muslims started.
i_stub_born
""Kill all Jews and annihilate Israel!' Iran's Ayatollah lays out legal and religious justification for attack"".......
So, because oil was discovered, the previous "tolerant-to-each-other" "benign" fanatic moslems of today have decided that whoever is not a muslim is an infidel and must be killed..........
i_stub_born
Solm
.........educated professionals and others, like the non-muslim ones precisely do not want to live under any tyranny, neither political nor "religious".
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Actually most of these people left after WW2, a long time ago for the West.They are 3 generations in the West.It wasnt the issue of political or religious tyranny.They were dupped into aiding the allies durring WW2 in return for many niceties.After the war, when the allies won, they were left high and dry.
They contribute to the societies where they live. If they would believe in the bullsh.t west vs east, they would return would they not?.....
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A lot of them are coming back by the way, after realising that what is preached in the media about the West is one things and living in the West is another.
Where are the many Libyans now that Gadaffi is enjoying his 'virgins'....are they returning to prevent the west to colonize them again??.........
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Lybia is chaotic now.It will take Lybia a very long time to stabilise.I dont even know if they will ever get rid of all the weapons the West supplied the rebels that removed Gaddafi.
""Kill all Jews and annihilate Israel!' Iran's Ayatollah lays out legal and religious justification for attack"".......
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Thats propganda.If that was the attitude of the Ayatollahs, there wouldnt be any Jews in Iran.Those Jews in Iran refused to go to Israel, even with bribes, they still prefered Iran.They feel more safer and comfortable in Iran than in Israel.They have been in Iran for over 2500 years.
So, because oil was discovered, the previous "tolerant-to-each-other" "benign" fanatic moslems of today have decided that whoever is not a muslim is an infidel and must be killed..........
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Again another BS.The animosity was created by the West imposing and supporting corrupt regimes in the mideast to get a constant supply of oil.This is the problem, not your 'fanatic' obsession.
Solm
"""The country's 8 million Coptic Christians were already feeling increasingly cornered amid the rise to power of hard-line Islamists in Egypt following the ouster of Hosni Mubarak.""""""
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You need to lay off the propaganda for a while.Hoew can the Coptics feel cornered when they took part in removing Mubarak?Some of the Coptics voted for Muslim Brotherhood.Please get your facts right, stop circulating the BS you pick from the net and pasting it here.
i_stub_born
Posted 245 days agoSolm
It all depdends on what do you mean by civilization! If you mean technological development, the current Western technology owes its existence to many contributions (including Muslim ones).So we all had a hand in this, no one can claim exclusive rights to any technological developments.
i_stub_born
BobbyBob
Solm
Destroy mankind?Can you be more specific?
Solm
No, I think wholistically.We are here today because of a series of particular events.We just didnt 'land' here.
i_stub_born
.....ha ha ha.....that sound so "ANC"......
....Can you give "specific" examples how fanatic muslims respect other cultures and creeds ???..........
BobbyBob
that may be so, but our future is more imporant than our past. Let future generations not say that people living today did not progress because they only had a rearview mirror, they could not look forward. By the way its "holistically " sparky.
Solm
""""""Destroy mankind?Can you be more specific?""""""
.....ha ha ha.....that sound so "ANC"......
....Can you give "specific" examples how fanatic muslims respect other cultures and creeds ???..........
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Do you realise that you havent told me what I asked you?
Solm
Solm,
that may be so, but our future is more imporant than our past. Let future generations not say that people living today did not progress because they only had a rearview mirror, they could not look forward. By the way its "holistically " sparky.
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Without the past you got no future.Who said knowing your history is against progress?You have a very strange way of looking at things.By the way thanks for the correction
seen_it_all
Thanks for your contributions here - I love your logic and insight and your ability to keep a cool head. That alone should really be enough proof for idiots like "SPARKY" Bobbybob (sounds like a KKK member) or i_stub_born (great pseudonym for someone who is likely himself a "fanatic lunatic" ) that the situation cannot be explained as simply as they believe and that not all muslims are blind fanatics....Good work Solm!