ANC rallies for Zuma
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The ANC in parliament has resolved to use its majority to block a motion of no confidence in President Jacob Zuma tabled by an alliance of opposition parties last week.
ANC MPs were summoned to a special caucus meeting yesterday, attended by Deputy President Kgalema Motlanthe, at which the motion of no confidence was discussed.
The opposition parties proposed the motion in terms of section 102 of the constitution, which stipulates that, for such a motion to succeed, the support of more than half of all members of the National Assembly is required.
The ANC holds 264 of the assembly's 400 seats and the opposition parties would have needed at least 67 ruling party legislators to support the motion for it to pass.
But ANC MPs have chosen to rally around Zuma by refusing to allow it to be debated in the National Assembly.
"The motion of the opposition about the alleged violation of the constitution by President Zuma is without foundation and cannot be supported by fact," said ANC chief whip Mathole Motshekga.
This is a blow to the opposition parties, which had hoped to lure those ANC MPs belonging to the anti-Zuma faction into supporting the no-confidence motion.
This would have required the speaker to give permission for a secret ballot, as had been requested by the leaders of the opposition parties when they announced their plans for tabling the motion.
The National Assembly's multi-party programme committee is scheduled to meet this morning to discuss the motion.
The ANC will use that meeting to rubber-stamp the decision of its caucus.
Motshekga said the opposition parties that tabled the motion did not have valid reasons for doing so.
"If the people of South Africa, the majority of whom overwhelmingly mandate this president and the ANC to lead this country, were to learn that this august institution has entertained a motion of no confidence in the president on the basis of such frivolous allegations, their trust in the ANC and parliament would have been violated," he said.
He advised opposition parties to use the 2014 general election to elect a president of their choice instead of attempting to use parliament to change the leadership of the country.
DA chief whip Watty Watson said he had written to Speaker Max Sisulu, reminding him that attempts by the ANC to use its majority to block the tabling of the motion were a violation of the constitution.
DA parliamentary leader Lindiwe Mazibuko said it was "unprecedented and unconstitutional" for the ANC to veto debate by parliament on the president's performance.
She said this proved that the ANC was not sure it could secure the support of all its MPs if the motion were put to a vote by secret ballot.
"It is clear that the ANC is running scared today. The real reason that the party does not want the vote to take place is that its leaders cannot secure the support they need within their own ranks to vote the motion down," Mazibuko said.



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Posted 215 days agoWhat trust?
Sasha*-Fierce
Ironically one of their illiterate master cannot even pronounce the word ''trust''! HAHAHAHA!
Thuka-Thuka
Sasha*-Fierce
Hahahah I like that, voting pig fodder gets ''fong kong'' t-shirts! While Cyril Ramaphosa gets an 18 million buffalo! Who is clever and who is a fool! Meanwhile Zuma is building himself a luxury bunker! Who needs, a bunker, fat BEE deals and all big tenders, the one who is clever and at the other hand the rest gets, social grants, once off free meals and a very poor education for their kids, that is a cherry on top! By the time fools wake up, it will be very late to redress anything!
PSG
Posted 215 days agoCan any of the legal heads or those that know the answer to my question please school me. What is unconstitutional as per Ms Mazibuko's pronouncement about the ANC exercising its majority to veto this motion?
l984
h t t p://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/in-a-democracy-the-court-of-public-opinion-is-king/
PSG
Prof says that Section 102(2) of the Constitution allows the National Assembly to debate and pass a motion of no confidence in the President by a simple majority of 200 of its members, the critical question IMO being what procedure must be followed with clear guidelines for the motion to be debated e.g. how many MPs must agree to this before it gets debated etc.
Prof De Vos is a constitutional expert and should give us his legal and axpert opinion rather than attacking the person of Mr Motshekga or the position that he holds as a leader in the ANC in traditional matters ". Earlier on he even refered to him as an intellectual not once have I heard Mr Motshekga refering to himself as an intellectual.
Sasha*-Fierce
In law, a motion of no confidence is a parliamentary motion which when passed would demonstrate to the head that the elected parliament no longer has confidence in one or more members of the appointed government. A motion is proposed by a member of the body, for the consideration of the body as a whole. With the exception of certain incidental and privileged motions, the person making the motion, known as the mover, must first be recognized by the Speaker of Parliament as being entitled to speak; this is known as obtaining the floor.
Section 89(1) of the constitution outline that the National Assembly, by a resolution adopted with a supporting vote of at least two thirds of its members, may remove the President from office only on the grounds of ¬a serious violation of the Constitution or the law; serious misconduct; or inability to perform the functions of office, those are the reason they can provide which suits very well with the Zuma version of story!
Section102 (1) of the constitution provide that if the National Assembly, by a vote supported by a majority of its members, passes a motion of no confidence in the Cabinet excluding the President, the President must reconstitute the Cabinet, section 102 (2) provide further that if the National Assembly, by a vote supported by a majority of its members, passes a motion of no confidence in the President, the President and the other members of the Cabinet and any Deputy Ministers must resign.
The Standing Rules and Orders of Parliament also play a pivotal rule and are significant during motion of no confidence in the State President, precisely the section detailing about ''motions''! But the most important thing is the constitution!
PSG
m1si2zi3nzo4
Posted 215 days agoThe ANC elite will never submit to democratic institutions paid for by citizens.
Sasha*-Fierce
Posted 215 days agoSuiGeneris
That's right, and millions of others, including myself, probably feel the same after reading this moronic statement......
".......The motion of the opposition about the alleged violation of the constitution by President Zuma is without foundation and cannot be supported by fact......" said ANC chief whip Mathole Motshekga.
Sasha*-Fierce
In terms of South African Criminal and Constitutional law, being in contempt of court is a very serious offence! A person who is in contempt must be impeached! I hope that ring a bell to a certain ''783 corruption charges and Spy tapes''!
Section 89(1) of the constitution outline that the National Assembly, by a resolution adopted with a supporting vote of at least two thirds of its members, may remove the President from office only on the grounds of ¬a serious violation of the Constitution or the law; serious misconduct; or inability to perform the functions of office, those are the reason they can provide which suits very well with the Zuma version of story!
Section102 (1) of the constitution provide that if the National Assembly, by a vote supported by a majority of its members, passes a motion of no confidence in the Cabinet excluding the President, the President must reconstitute the Cabinet, section 102 (2) provide further that if the National Assembly, by a vote supported by a majority of its members, passes a motion of no confidence in the President, the President and the other members of the Cabinet and any Deputy Ministers must resign.
PPP
Posted 214 days agoVoiceofreason#1
Posted 214 days agoOfcourse u r right Mr Motshekga. The majority keep signing an ANC (Anti-Nuptual Contract) contract every 5 yrs so that u guys can keep what u have, ie, tax payers' money, and everyone else gets left with what they have, ie, nothing!
Thuka-Thuka
Posted 214 days agonkosipeter
Posted 214 days agoThe ANC is thus in a quandary. They cannot be seen to defend him in Parliament (which they are doing) and then boot him out in Mangaung.
So it will be interesting to see how the wishes of 264 ANC MP's stack up against the wishes of some 4000 delegates in Mangaung.
My guess is they will stick with the devil they know, which plays right into the opposition's hands.
Tokolosh
Posted 214 days agobhekiDprofessor1
Posted 214 days agoAnotherTaxPayer
Posted 214 days agoStirrer
Posted 214 days agoAmandla NsKANDaaLA!
manga2
Posted 214 days agoWe'll deal with Msholozi (if we want to) at Manguang. Otherwise, Sis Lindiwe Mazibuko must just focus on making sure that she's around for another 30 or more years. Regular visits to the Virgin Active will go a long way towards ensuring that.
SuiGeneris
You seem to feel very much at home with this dysfunctional government operating in a vacuum of incompetence.
i_stub_born
"You know Zuma is incompetent and corrupt. I, know Zuma is incompetent and corrupt.....But I WILL DECIDE when and if Zuma must continue representing me !!!!........Am I not an intelligent ANC African man or what ??......................
manga2
Until WE change the electoral system, just shut up.
i_stub_born
ProgressiveAfricanDemocrat
Posted 214 days agoDonaldKnight
Posted 214 days ago