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Thu Jun 20 06:45:03 SAST 2013

ANC branches revolt

SIBONGAKONKE SHOBA and AMUKELANI CHAUKE | 26 November, 2012 00:29
An African National Congress (ANC) Youth League supporter gestures in front of an ANC flag during a march
Image by: SIPHIWE SIBEKO / Reuters

ANC members are refusing to accept directives from the top on whom to nominate for party leadership positions, and provincial party branches are divided over nominating Jacob Zuma or Kgalema Motlanthe, his deputy, for the most powerful jobs in politics.

When the KwaZulu-Natal ANC held its provincial general council meeting yesterday only Zuma and party secretary-general Gwede Mantashe were nominated unopposed despite an expectation that branches would toe the line and nominate luminaries listed on the slates circulated by Zuma lobby groups.

With less than three weeks to go before the party holds its elective conference in Mangaung, a similar trend appears to be unfolding in other provinces - party branches are ignoring provincial pronouncements and sticking with their preferred nominees.

Zuma wants to be re-elected for another term but Motlanthe - with the backing of the ANC Youth League - is believed to be quietly challenging him.

In KwaZulu-Natal a significant number of party branches nominated Motlanthe though he had been removed from the lobbyists' slate and replaced by businessman Cyril Ramaphosa. It emerged at the KwaZulu-Natal provincial general council meeting that about 300 branches in the province nominated Motlanthe as Zuma's deputy. Also nominated for the position was Human Settlements Minister Tokyo Sexwale. But early indications were that Ramaphosa would emerge as the province's preferred choice for the deputy presidency.

It also emerged that the province was not united on Premier Zweli Mkhize's nomination as treasurer- general of the party. Some branches nominated Planning Minister Trevor Manuel, Home Affairs Minister Naledi Pandor, Deputy Correctional Services Minister Ngoako Ramatlhodi or treasurer-general Mathews Phosa.

As Zuma lobbyists were campaigning for national executive committee member Jessie Duarte for the position of deputy secretary-general, some branches expressed support for incumbent Thandi Modise; others nominated Sports Minister Fikile Mbalula and some SA Communist Party general secretary Blade Nzimande.

Branches nominated Baleka Mbete to stay on as national chairman, or Modise or KwaZulu-Natal legislature Speaker Peggy Nkonyeni.

In Gauteng, the provincial executive committee chose Motlanthe as its preferred presidential candidate. Most branches are said to have heeded the provincial pronouncement but one region, Ekurhuleni, nominated Zuma. Its 54 branches gave Zuma the thumbs up; Motlanthe was nominated by 21.

In North West, where the province has endorsed Zuma's second-term bid, divisions are said to be worse.

A provincial executive committee member said yesterday that though it was not known if the majority of branches supported Zuma or Motlanthe, the national executive committee's failure to resolve infighting in the province was the determining factor.

"What is clear is that 90% of the branches want [North West Premier] Thandi Modise to replace Mbethe as national chairman.

"[And] the branches want Mbalula to replace Mantashe as secretary-general.

In Eastern Cape, the provincial executive committee said that it wanted Zuma for another term.

According to an ANC member in the province, the Sarah Bartman region nominated Motlanthe because of the influence of an ANC Youth League executive member.

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Mike123

Posted 205 days ago
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If it's anything like Potchefstroom, these morons will end up electing the "white madam."
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RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 205 days ago
Geez but that was funny. I still get a giggle or two when thinking of it. What a bunch of muppets. Combrink must have been gobsmacked at suddenly being 'elected'
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Mike123

Posted 205 days ago
Well that makes at least two of us :)
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Timbuck10

Posted 205 days ago
Makes THREE of us!!!

Talk about screwing up.... LOL!

Patsekg

Posted 205 days ago
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Why do you leave Limpopo out of all the provinces you are giving us uptade on? We know by now that Zuma is ahead of Motlanthe with a bigger margin, contrary to what the media has been feeding us that Limpopo is pro-Motlanthe, and that's why The times and other news papers feel embarassed to update us on what is happenning in that province. Amukelani Chauke, one of the reporters here is from Limpopo and there's no way he can't be aware of how the nominations are going in Limpopo, but he delibarately decided to ignore it because Motlanthe is loosing after the media told everyone that the province supports him and not Zuma. This is what we call unbalanced reporting.
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ZENETH

Posted 205 days ago
The media never learns. It was the same thing enroute to Polokwane.

proud-mbongwa

Posted 205 days ago
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who cares what these morons are doing?

SuiGeneris

Posted 205 days ago
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And the silence from the sitting armchair god is overwhelming.....probably too scared to open his his mouth on anything in case he says something stupid again
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AnotherTaxPayer

Posted 205 days ago
He will have to get new t-shirts made up ahead of the event. 1% Mantashe 99% SARS..

Black-Moses

Posted 205 days ago
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''ANC branches revolt,'' nothing new, it's dog eat dog scenario as usual.

skhokho21

Posted 205 days ago
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you people are obsess with ANC internal processes, it must be killing you that there is nothing you can do to remove them from power, even you party is not sure of only 30% in 2014. There is an article of your election congress, you have made no comment but you are all over ANC articles. You always complain that there are no leaders in the ANC but the DA changed its constitution so that madam Zille can continue to lead them over & above her term.
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RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 205 days ago
The only ones who are more entertaining than the ANC are Cope. All the others are pretty boring with not a fistfight or bottom shown through the whole election process.

That arrogance is why the ANC is going to lose even more of their majority. I don't think you understand just how disillusioned many people are becoming.
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ZENETH

Posted 205 days ago
.......but the DA changed its constitution so that madam Zille can continue to lead them over & above her term......


Is it? So only The Madam has the capacity to run the DA? I suppose the President was referring to her when he spoke of leaders who dont know whether they are provincial leaders or national leaders. I am certain sometimes Lindiwe Mazibuko feels taken for granted when Zille treads on national parliamentary matters that demands ONLY the response of the Leader of Opposition. Take for instance the responses to Budget speech and SONA, only the DA has got both Zille and Mazibuko. Actually Zille is the only party leader who's not in National parliamentary.
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SuiGeneris

Posted 205 days ago
''.....but you are all over ANC articles.....''

Could the reason that they attract so much attention perhaps be that they are so idiotic ?
So devoid of intelligence and direction that it is in fact a step backwards ?
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i_stub_born

Posted 205 days ago
.....what is frightening is that people like you are pigheaded in electing a corrupt and useless cadre as leader as he is for sure going to worsen the situation of this country.....It is as if your party does not include even one person with morality and capacity..............
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Mbeki_2

Posted 205 days ago
....over & above her term.
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????????????? When do you think she was appointed? DA has much shorter term of office than ANC (5 years). It was amended from 2 years to 3 yeras. In the ANC they call that contintuity.
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v_3

Posted 205 days ago
You can have your own opinion, but not your own facts.


Like the ANC, the DA allows a leader to be elected any number of times (unlike the SA Constitution, which limits the president to two terms). The DA did NOT alter its constitution, there was simply no need. What does it say about the disinformation you have been getting.

Zille was nominated unopposed. Obviously the members are happy with the growth the DA has made and the non-racist direction she is leading the party.

As for the DA getting into power:
* ANC KZN leader warned that Zille is doing what the ANC manifesto said should be done
* SACP boss and ANC general secretary warned the ANC Western Cape congress that ANC and Cosatu members were voting DA in the province
* Cosatu boss Zwelinzima Vavi warned that "if we are not careful we will be calling someone President Zille".

There is a spectre haunting the ANC - it has to do with loss of tenders and prison sentences (without Shaiky get-out-jail card)

BornAgain

Posted 205 days ago
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The ANC is a bloated organisation. It needs to shed some of its ideologoical excesses if it wants to survive. The Mangaung conference should be more concerned about re-positioning the party, and less about who is going to be at the helm of power.
Perhaps anoter split will not be such a bad idea after all...
For the DA - it is much easier to manage a small party, but wait until you get 50 percent of electoral endorsement. South Africa is such a complex and unequal society and it will take a great genius to bring all divergent factions together to forge a national identity.
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SuiGeneris

Posted 205 days ago
They do not have any leadership to pull them out of the abyss !
They are scraping the bottom of the pot at the moment for leadership, but they cant find anyone.
They have become stagnant and the moment that happens, the reality is that they are moving backwards.
Only a genius will be able to stop the momentum of the current downward spiral, but they do not have such a person within their ranks !
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BornAgain

Posted 205 days ago
I beg to differ with you. I do not think the main problem is leadership, important as this is. For me the main problem of the ANC is its ideological fruit sald (as tony leon once described it). It has too many contrasting ideologies. You 've got nationalists, traditionalists, liberals, communists, religiously minded people, social democrats - all wanting a piece of the organisation. The differences are too wide and no leader even if he is in the mold of Obama can bring this pieces together. In its current ideological excess, the party will remain prone to political infighting. You cannot have policy stability under the current circumstances, hence i think, the party should refocus itself.
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skhokho21

Posted 205 days ago
BA, election of the new leadership is one of the items on the agenda for the Mangaung conference and there are other issues on the agenda but the media focuses on the election. Look at the DA conference article, they only talk about who was elected, no discussions on policies that were adopted. Split can only happen if JZ is not elected, infact not a split but most Zulus will go back to IFP & NFP bcoz they will feel let down. My main problem with JZ beside his many fumbles, is his lack of uniting the ANC after Polokoane and not being in touch with people on the ground after they were elected.

SuiGeneris, you claim the ANC have no leaders but your party had to change the constitution to allow madam to lead beyond her terms, does that show a party with capable leaders.

Robrt010Mugabe99

Posted 205 days ago
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As far as I understand DA had a conference over the weekend but more focus is on ANC, does this mean DA is nonetity party
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Thuka-Thuka

Posted 205 days ago
I guess it does. Well, when you consider that the news on the ANC is general dysfunction, then I guess you'd rather be a nonentity than dysfunctional...

zindela

Posted 205 days ago
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@skhokho21: be careful when you say that The DA will never run this country...The Nationalists said that The ANC would never run South Africa....and look where it got them!!!
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skhokho21

Posted 205 days ago
I don`t think you want us to go back to Apartheid times of the NP, are you a beneficiary of NP. I am talking in a democratical rule where you govern by winning votes, did black people have rights to vote at that time or you are one of those who were seen as 2nd citizens/better than black people.

clydebv

Posted 205 days ago
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Why wont the DA ever rule SA? Is it because it is perceived as a White party. If so then its a sad day for SA and for those persons who advocate that Blacks are not racist. Surely this is a racist attitude. I would have hoped that South Africans of all colours would want to see the party that offers the most for all citizens and not continually harp on race issue.
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RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 205 days ago
Part of it does have to do with the perception (rightly or wrongly) of it being a 'white' party. The scabs aren't even off the wounds of apartheid so that makes it difficult for many to vote for a 'white madam'.

A larger part is that the DA just don't try hard enough to get votes. The last elections was the first time ever that I heard them even mention their manifesto. Hopefully, they will build on giving voters an idea of what their vision is as opposed to just slagging off the ANC all the time
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SuiGeneris

Posted 205 days ago
'''.....their policies protects the interests of whites and they are a minority.....''

Zuma used a similar phrase not so long ago !

You, just like Zuma, have no frigging idea of what the constitution is about !
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skhokho21

Posted 205 days ago
"A larger part is that the DA just don't try hard enough to get votes. The last elections was the first time ever that I heard them even mention their manifesto. Hopefully, they will build on giving voters an idea of what their vision is as opposed to just slagging off the ANC all the time"

Momma, their politics are based on rediculling the ANC without offering solutions, imagine if everything was hunkydorry with the ANC, there will be no DA. I heard madam says she will close the gap between rich & poor but didn`t say how & by when to avoid making her funders angry becoz the only way to do that will be the sharing of the wealth of the country, BEE and other policies that are currently in place, offwhich her funders are not in favour.

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RSA.MommaCyndi

Posted 205 days ago
skhokho21

Exactly my problem with the DA. They must give us a reason to vote FOR them, not a reason NOT to vote for the ANC. They will only get so far as the 'Desperate Alternative'.
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Wiseguy

Posted 205 days ago
Agree with Skhoco and MommaC,

In fact given the ANC policies around traditional leaders and the living conditions of those living under the tribal leadership......there is a massive GAP on the politcal stage waiting for another party to step in with firm policies that will change the life of those millions of people and their families who reside under the tribal authorities rule !

Yes, one may argue that tribal bonds run deep BUT these people are SERIOUSLY desperate for change......so ANY political party who will offer meaningful changes to these 15.5 million or so voters, WILL make good headway in 2014 ! The land issue is the KEY!

POWER TO THE PEOPLE!
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skhokho21

Posted 205 days ago
Its very disappointing on the advisors & strategists of the DA that they cannot change their strategy even though it did not work in the last 2 election. I think they can do better for them so that we can hear what they are offering. Look at the way Lindiwe Mazibuko is handling herself, same strategy which annoyed black people becoz they see her as someone who sold out as a Zulu woman. People do n`t see her as talking for black people everytime she insult JZ.
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i_stub_born

Posted 205 days ago
........Mazibuko was the only one who cornered a babbling Zuma trying to evade all answers as it's his style......and then we learn he lied to the Parliament and to the country.........
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SuiGeneris

Posted 205 days ago
''....and then we learn he lied to the Parliament and to the country.....''

Only once ?????

What about all his false promises ?

Considering all, I think it would fair to label him as a compulsive liar.

To an extend his sangoma muti must be working as some people have grown permanent blinkers and are unable to see this fact !

Mgwijikhwebu

Posted 205 days ago
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@Patsekg,
Showing Zuma in a positive light is the last thing that the SA media can do. We can clearly see the media has been and is still actively campaigning for Motlanthe, including the opposition parties.
It's freedom of expression, although they conveniently forget (especially on matters concerning Zuma) that reporting must also be balanced.
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ZenoJ

Posted 205 days ago
Well, how would you suggest that the media show Zuma in a positive light? What about: He hasn't spent R250 million of taxpayer money on his personal home. Or: When Marikana was brewing he showed real leadership and helped defuse the situation. Or: When the texbook scandal came to light he personally took charge to ensure texbooks were delivered in record time. Or this one: He selected a fit and proper person to head up the NPA, not Menzi Simelani.
There really is nothing to be positive about with this so-called leader.

Tintagel

Posted 205 days ago
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ANC branches revolt? Actually I find the whole damn lot revolting.