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PODCAST | What if a pro-black group wanted to use the old SA flag?

It could be used by a black-led movement to critique the ANC. We explore this hypothetical case

EFF supporters burn the old SA flag near the Paul Kruger statue at Church Square on April 11 2015 in Pretoria.
EFF supporters burn the old SA flag near the Paul Kruger statue at Church Square on April 11 2015 in Pretoria. (Gallo Images/Foto24/Theana Breugem)

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The law only allows three exceptions to the use of symbols of hate such as the old SA flag. These exceptions are bona fide artistic ends, academic endeavour or journalism. The gratuitous display of the old SA flag for other than these reasons constitutes hate speech.

AfriForum is hoping to persuade the Supreme Court of Appeal that general free speech rights are impermissibly restricted by such a declaration. The Nelson Mandela Foundation as well the Human Rights Commission argue that AfriForum’s view takes inadequate account of the rights of dignity and equality which constrain the free speech rights AfriForum is asserting. The SCA now has to adjudicate the matter. 

In this edition of Eusebius on TimesLIVE, adv Ben Winks, who represented the NMF, joined Eusebius McKaiser to discuss an aspect of the case that has been under the radar. What if a black person or a black-led and pro-black organisation used the old SA flag as part of their political speech rights, such as waving it publicly as a trenchant critique of the quality of the ANC government? Would such usage also be deemed to be a celebration of white supremacy? Or ought we to distinguish such cases from the gratuitous display of the flag by right-wing organisations? How should the law handle this? Besides, such an instance would not be artistic, academic or journalistic. Should the law be expanded to include political use of such symbols as another exemption from the hate speech laws? 

Winks and McKaiser did not arrive at clear conclusions but framed the inherent legal, political and ethical complexities these questions occasion. 

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