Malema & Maimane - political opposites effective in political opposition
Julius Malema has a soft spot for Pastor Mmusi Maimane but little respect for politician Mmusi Maimane.
Malema believes the good working relationship the two have would have been impossible if Helen Zille was still DA leader.
"Helen Zille suffers from white supremacy and it's not only her problem. It's a problem of all white people, including my friends," he said during an interview this week.
I ask if his views about Maimane - that he was not in charge of his own party - have changed.
"I still hold that view. He is a nice guy umfundisi. He is a black guy. He is from the township.
"Helen Zille is in charge. It's not Mmusi who made Helen apologise; it's us. When we made the threat she thought: 'This thing is going to go in my name, I can't allow that.' So it's not Mmusi.